>nazis were good guys >they dindu nuffin, they just wanted

>>415433
>These guys murdered millions of people and planned to enslave millions more and they worship them.
Well make it equally as bad to worship the Soviets and Imperial British, which a lot of people still do, and they might see some sense.

It's entirely possibly depending on what you've read.

Of course, you can always be intellectual dishonest with yourself and actively search for shit supporting your shit. But at the end of the day it's a matter of justification.

Someone who rarely read stuff contradicting his world-view and spend all their time on metapedia is perfectly justifiable to think that the nazis where the shit.

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I don't know which is worse, Naziboo or Commie boo.

>>415444
>Imperial British

I mean, the empire was on the way out before the second world war began. And they did fight Nazism from the first days of the war, so arguably they were a net plus. Compared to, say, the Soviet or Nazis.

>>415433
I believe the 'red pill' lot do this.

It's odd, /pol/ freaks out when ever the Federal government is mentioned, they believe that Obama is a fascist and that they are monitored and that there is no justice.

But in a fascist system, that kind of thing is taken for granted.

I believe its mostly 12 year olds who actually think Nazism was anything but genocidal nationalism

>>415489
your entire point is again based on the assumption that the nazis are the ultimate bad guys and imperial britain was in any way better

>>415495
Imperial Britain didn't industrially genocide populations based on ethnicity, or start major European wars based on aggressive expansion.

That and the whole Democratic government, respecting of international law thing.

>>415502
>Respecting of International Law

>>415517
How did the UK not respect international law? They were a party in the League of Nations, the hague convention, more then can be said for Nazi Germany.

>>415489
>I mean, the empire was on the way out before the second world war began. And they did fight Nazism from the first days of the war, so arguably they were a net plus. Compared to, say, the Soviet or Nazis.
I'm not talking about before the second world war began, I'm talking about the collective Imperial British.

Their history entails responsibility for the deaths of millions, with worldwide conquest to a greater degree than the Nazis ever could have hoped, and there are people who still argue that their presence was a positive force in the world, when their best argument is 'muh infrastructure', when we all know that infrastructure can arise more naturally (rather, natively), without conquest, war, the exacerbation of famines leading to the deaths of millions, and ending with the sick consolation of 'well, at least you have the infrastructure we forced you to build in the morbidly-rapid commercialization of your country that was purely for our own profit'.

And Napoleon, a man who effectively waged wars of conquest on Europe leading to the deaths of millions, is still relatively idealized today without much stigmatization.

Honestly, only the Soviets and Imperial Japanese have gotten as bad a wrap as the Nazis, in history. The British and French still have their own aggressive, expansive, imperialistic skeletons-in-the-closet, theirs' just occurred on a smaller scale/prior to the Nazis and the Soviets.

If we're going to teach people to stop idealizing entirely aggressive, imperialistic entities, it has to be absolute, and it has to be principally.

>>415433
>These guys murdered millions of people and planned to enslave millions more.
So did Alexander the Great, Caesar, Mohammed, and other "great men" in history.

>>415433
They just wanted to escape capitalism which causes farm more death and destruction than the nazi's ever did.

3million die annually from thirst just in regions near drinkable water which is used on livestock instead.
Every two fucking years the jewish portion of the holocaust.

>hurr dey had skulls on der hats and they were RASIST! the most awful thing you can ever be, regardless of the fact that im a total cuck for the power structure and continue to perpetuate violence against my own people and people of developing nations. How dare they try to escape that system!


fuck off retard.
The holocaust was bad. but more innocent people have died under the system you currently jerk off 3 times daily to cuck porn in is.


I will admit the >muh muh white race
part of nazi sympathizers are retarded. But any anti-cap can't hate nazi's entirely.

>>415528
Do people actually hold such positions, or is this a troll?

If you're serious, I chalk it up to ignorance of Nazi ideology and policy.

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>>415525
>its justified, because it wasn't against international law

>>415542
Shouldn't you be in school?

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>>415502
>Imperial Britain didn't industrially genocide populations based on ethnicity

as opposed to casually genociding populations based on ethnicity

>major European wars based on aggressive expansion

as opposed to major non-European wars based on aggressive expansion

>Democratic government

all those democratic rights the colonised peoples had are truly amazing

>respecting of international law

which was only concerned with what civilised nations did to eachother

>>415542
>They just wanted to escape capitalism

wew

>>415545
Are you retarded?

>>415528
>a man who effectively waged wars of conquest on Europe leading to the deaths of millions
Most of those Wars were started by the Coalition and monarchists seeking to restore the French king. That's not to say he wasn't absent of aggression or war crimes, but his battles right after the Revolution were 100% justified.

>>415561
You believe, that there is no difference between murder and not helping someone, so if someone has something wrong with their head, it would probably be you.

>>415568
>the British Empire isn't responsible for the deaths of millions and genocide of native peoples
>I do not actually know the history I'm arguing doesn't exist, but I'll keep posting
Quoting you.

>>415568
>setting up the condition that lead to someone's demise isn't murder

>>415568
At least the murderer has the balls to do it himself.

perpetually "letting" people die of a curable situation is the most bourgeoisie cuck tier excuse.

The nazi's clearly defined themselves as looking out for themselves and they followed that to the end.
capitalist democratic cucks pretend they care and let you die in the street like a dog.

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>>415542
any anti-capitalist sentiment fascists ever showed was either a complete farce and only put up as a way to get people's support (italian fascism and spanish falange) or quickly eliminated ("left wing" of the german nazi party)

>>415568
So you are retarded.

>>415581
>this is what marxists believe
And then you wonder why nobody takes you guys seriously.

>abloo bloo ppl r dead what a tragedy
>>>/tumblr/

>>415581
>using the term cuck unironically

>>415572
Yes, there is a qualitative difference between what the British did and what the Nazis did.

>>415574
How many people have you murdered through not donating your surplus income to charity? Maybe you should kill yourself, before you cause even more suffering, you monster.

>>415581
Are you from that communist meme reddit?

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>>415597

>>415581
Can you prove that anyone has an obligation to help anyone else in the first place?

If not then your assertion of it as a negative thing is completely unfounded.

>>415599
are you honestly comparing colonialism and systematic oppression with "not donating your surplus income to charity"

>>415599
>Yes, there is a qualitative difference between what the British did and what the Nazis did.
I never said there wasn't, you mental deficient.
The point I was making is that they are, ultimately, entirely comparable. The result of British Imperialism was still completely horrific and its genuine idealization is entirely morbid, just less-so than the genuine idealization of Nazi Germany. The scale and directness of the deaths caused by Nazi Germany were qualitatively different, but the British still committed genocide and enacted forced labor in horrible conditions. There are qualitative and quantitative similarities.

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>>415612
>fedoras
>not the biggest humanist shills

>>415618
>the British still committed genocide and enacted forced labor in horrible conditions
When and where?

>>415568
>>415581
>>415599
>>415613
where does anyone even talk about this "the british empire dindu nuffin, they just didn't help" bullshit?
are you samefagging?

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>the most successful countries outside of Europe all have British connections (except Japan, but even then that was indirect)
>Britain is somehow the global evil for instituting free trade, instituting eventual democracy in the worlds largest states as well as spreading the institutions by which states funding
>all because capitalism is the evil!

>>415621
it was holocaust denial tier

>>415615
Yes, it's pretty close, closer than colonialism is to the extermination of subhumans under Nazism.

When the British came to India, they didn't just cart the Indians away into extermination camps to settle the subcontinent with whites.

>>415621
>When and where?
Asia and Oceania you historically illiterate freak.
Go read a history book on British India and their presence in Oceania. Go read about the forced labor enacted during the worst famines India ever saw.

Why are you even posting if you aren't aware of this basic shit? Like why even bother?

>>415629
I suspect you have pretty anachronistic ideas about what constitutes genocide and "labor under terrible conditions", so I'm asking for examples.

>>415635
Here's a helping hand, retard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Victorian_Holocausts

>>415599
Being paid money doesn't cost the poor money: economics is not a zero sum game, since wealth isn't distributed, but created. Your fallacy has no power here, and I also never suggested suffering was an inherit evil.

I'm not the one who suggested inaction was immoral. I was the one who suggested actions which caused deaths were immoral.

You're feeling attacked and that's okay. Just take a moment anon.

>>415638
About the author :
>He is a self-defined international socialist and "Marxist-Environmentalist".[4]

Shocking

>>415635
>genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history
Ctrl + F "Brit"

>labor under terrible conditions

just read literally any source on colonialism idk m88

>>415645
ignore that kid (you're probably just him samefagging anyways)

>>415650
>ignore that kid (you're probably just him samefagging anyways)
You got me, I'm a paid capitalist shill whose sole goal is to samefag on a mongolian tapestry subreddit with the intention of foiling the plans of the workers' internationale.

>>415638
Mate, just because some socialist attributed all death under a certain economic system to the government doesn't mean the government is actually murderous. If you look at the Indian famines in particular, you will see that there is a learning progress, which means the death was considered undesirable and the people in charge were just incompetent, nor murderers.

>>415650
>just read literally any source on colonialism idk m88
Read any source on labor during the 18-early 20th century, it was KZ tier.

>>415645
Yes, and regardless of the blatant narrative he spins, the facts he provides are still valuable to gain perspective on the scale of the effect of British negligence in the region.

His conclusions are completely obnoxious though.

Still, he provides a far more competent, compelling narrative than the shitfully incompetent tale told by Ferguson. I don't think I've read a competent neo-imperialist.

>>415650
>Ctrl + F "Brit"
I find exactly zero.

>>415655
>and the people in charge were just incompetent, nor murderers.
Cute excuse, friend.
Incompetence on that scale is murder to a degree.

>>415655
Just because some Israeli says Jews deserve a state because of the Holocaust doesn't mean all Israelis have to stand with Ukraine after Holodomor

>>415665
>24 matches at the link provided

>>415652
are you retarded mane? i'm obviously not the pseudo-anticapitalist liberal kiddie
nvm you're clearly only here to shitpost anyways

>>415655
people outside the colonies weren't forced to work at gunpoint and actually got paid

>>415665
your browser might be broken

>>415677
He was being incredibly funny and Ctrl + F'ing Brit inside of inverted commas, but his tasteful wit was lost on you.

>>415677
>>415686
If you actually look at the article, you find that there are zero actual genocides perpetrated by the British government.

>>415553
LA schools are out for Happening Watch m8. Try to keep up.

It's not as if jews and gypsies are really people.

>>415701
>actual genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_War#Characterisation_as_genocide
There's a fine line between 'actual' and 'arguable' genocide. In the end, you're clearly fucking up big time if your behavior is largely compared to/argued to be genocide.

>>415701
Yes and there's no record of an explicit order by Hitler himself to kill Jews in camps, but the end result is the same. There was condoning to the deaths that took place. The government was complicit.

So say that the Holocaust didn't happen... how much would that change opinions on Nazis?

Whenever a /pol/tard is doxxed they are usually some 12 year old mexican

many of them are just going through an edgy phase

>>415908

As a Pole... not much.

>>415627
>the most successful countries outside of Europe all have British connections (except Japan, but even then that was indirect)

The only relevant British ex-colony is America, and the only reason for that is because they rebelled against you.

>>415433
every country, every culture... has done something horrific. i.e. murdering of a group of people, putting in some form of law or code that incapacitates another group. in other words its all been done by everyone. humans are the bad guys (or humans are just plain psychotic)

>>415612
His gut and the double chin he's trying to hide are the best parts of that picture.

Anything gleaned from Nuremberg is falsified. All confessions were extracted using torture.

>>415433
>LOL NAZI BASHING

Haven't you parasites gotten bored of spamming the same shit for 70 years?