I fucked up I got a degree in STEM and am making good cash at

>where do I get into a subject I clearly don't have time for so I can come across as a facetious dilettante at dinner parties
don't bother trying to save yourself from your unfulfilling career. save yourself the trouble and just kill yourself.
>good cash
read: 15$ an hour (for the first ten years)

>>342869
ALIENATION FROM JOB
REVOLUTION

>>342889
>i am resentful towards people that make money

ok

>>342869
Devolve half your money to your local poor historians

t. Historian

I feel you, bro. BSEE here—shit's nice and challenging and pays well and all, but the people are empty as fuck, as is the lifestyle.
Luckily, I had a strong foot in a bunch of art scenes in New York and parts of France, so getting out before it was too late wasn't impossible, and that BSEE still leaves more open than you might think.
Studying the humanities isn't linear, like studying many STEM fields is. Fill in really gaping gaps in your knowledge, get into some kind of craft, some kind of art, meet other people who are into it, fuck around with them, discuss shit with them, bounce ideas off of each other, read some of what they do, use that to get into shit that they might not be totally aware of.

>>342916
can i start with wikipedia articles?

>>342918
Not sure if you're entirely serious. I mean, you could, there's nothing stopping you, but you won't understand anything. Most wikipedia articles on anything humanities-related are shockingly biased and poorly written. Besides, that's not the type of knowledge that you necessarily want to go for, anyway. Just go to a bookstore, go to a library, and read. Read a shit-ton. Read until you stop asking questions like "can i start with wikipedia articles?"

>>342869
If reading the stuff by yourself is too hard for you, just find a local, reputable university or higher education facility and check out if they run a program of either summer classes/night classes/lecture series etc.

Don't go to ones that do it for the express purpose of earning a certificate, thats just worthless and fills up too much of your time and makes it a pressured deal when you have your own job already. Rather, there should be ones that are like extended introductory lectures on specific topics. Sometimes you have to pay to get in and book in advance, sometimes you don't.

Often they're the kind of things old people do: ie. a bunch of retired elderly accountants and engineers want to do something interesting in their twilight years, and they didn't have this cross-mixing of disciplines when they went to study back in the day, so they weren't exposed to the humanities much and now want a jumping off point.

Actually, finding one mostly populated by old people will be better in the long term, because old people have less tolerance for modern academic faggotry.

I'm in Cape Town, South Africa and I can do this here if I wanted, so I hope wherever you are has such options too.

>>342936
Okay, i'll do just that

>>342869
Generally I would suggest you find a reputable general book covering history/philosophy/other topic that interest you. There are a fair few good ones that are quiet readable. Then you pick the topics that interested you the most and find texts on those subjects , then more advanced texts and so on.
It will have weaknesses that a tertiary degree won't have but it will be totally fine if you don't want a job in the field.
On a side note: if you do get really into your topic of interest you will want try and get access to nearby university libraries (assuming the ones near you allow it, I find most do), more advanced texts can be exorbitantly expensive. You won't have to worry about this for some time though.
>>342957
This is also good advice, but again it depends significantly on what your local places are like.

>>342957
>>343018
yeah I'll have to check my local universities in (spoiler: guadalajara) but I'll start going to local libraries first.

Why exactly is this lifestyle pointless, OP?

Could you explain it? I honestly do not get it.

>>343028

60 hours a week, wasting away, until I reach old age and and slowly fade away

>>343024
Good luck.
There are pretty frequent rec threads around here, ask for general non-expert texts in one of those to start off with.

>>342889
>15$ an hour (for the first ten years)

HIstory major here! I'm a fucking poorfag and $15 an hour is an unbelievably lucrative sum of money to me. Shut the fuck up, you limp-wristed dicksuck hippy scum.

>>342869
>making good cash at 60 hours a week
12x5? What a shit job tbqh

>>343028
STEM degress are for the spiritually empty. Notice how they are not above referring to how much they are paid.

>>342869
Faggot just start reading or taking courses at your local college

I mean holy shit it ain't hard
The Greeks are a good start
Look at /lit/s wiki and find something you like
I'm sure pretty someone will start a history resources wiki for this board

Also you should've picked a stem that was full of fulfillment but I assume you picked some random engineering like a fuckboy right?

>>343085
Is that why most of the humanities students are just STEM rejects?
I lost count of how many fags failed to get into engineering or med school and just went for an "easy" degree (protip if you choose a degree because you think it's easy then you won't be a good professional), which is kinda sad considering that lowers the bar for everyone. Should have more rigid entry requirements.

But then again, these people keep crying about opression when they get kicked out of public universities for having consistently horrible results :^)


Oh and if you haven't realized, a lot of STEM course choices are driven by the desire to discover more about the world, be it understanding the relations between the brain and consciousness or simply the wonder of trying to decipher the mysteries of ages old mathematical problems. Their problem is the people who go in only for the cash.

Man I fucking high but here's the summed up version:
1. Humanities is fucked by people who just want it easy
2. STEM is fucked by people who just want money

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>>343120

>>343120
Geology is where it's at. Great job market if your willing to move. Oversea contacts available as well. Pretty good starting pay depending on your specialization. 1 to 2 year masters programs depending on school. To top it all off, a great community full of hikers, backpackers, and a surprising number of artists. It's a chill area of study, without a doubt.

>>343135
>all dem typos

That's what I get for train posting

>>343120
You swallowed obvious bait, but still a good post. I am still confused as to why people act like Humanities and STEM are competing with each other. They deal with compeltely different types of intelligence.

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>>342869
>60 hours a week
>Good job

Even if you're paid well I can't imagine you'd have time to enjoy it.

>>343135
Man gotta agree.
AND if you're heterossexual male or lesbian female then you'll be happy with the female to male ratio which is much much better than engineering or compsci

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>>343120
>these people keep crying about opression when they get kicked out of public universities for having consistently horrible results :^)

Would History/Psychology degree majors really do this? I can see Comms and SocSci students doing this maybe but I always thought some humanities majors had some sense.

>>343175
Here they do, they also get support from political parties in return for their help and end up becoming a very weird monstrosity.
I blame the system in place. The good students just suffer in silence as the politically affiliated but crappt students get benefits.

>>342869
>works 10h per day
>good money
>Lifestyle is pointless
Fuck you spoiled bitch
Come to East europe-ex socialist communist countries which are now capitalist and see how bad is life right here

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>>343188
>tfw about to start majoring History in Australia

I'd better start on those offerings to the Rainbow Serpent that it's not true here. At least not on the West Coast anyway.

>>343042
Doesn't this apply to practically every job?

>>342869
EP Thompson, Making of the English Working Class.

Airoc

I got my degree in Computer Science and I minored in History, I write code for a living and study history in my free time. Not bad 2bh pham, CS is the most based STEM major. Software design is fun and comfy.

>>343120
>1. Humanities is fucked by people who just want it easy
>2. STEM is fucked by people who just want money
this is pretty fucking true

>>343150
>I am still confused as to why people act like Humanities and STEM are competing with each other

I'm still confused as to who the hell thinks like this. I only ever see it on the internet, never actually at university.

>>343270
Anything you aren't passionate about, which is the point OP is making.

>where does one start with history
mesopotamia

>philosophy
pre-socratics

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>>342869
This might of help to you OP

>>342869

Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
Seneca, on the Shortness of Life.

If you really want to waste more time after that on the mental-masturbation kick that is philosophy, have at it. However you will have already read most of what you will ever need to. Seneca will take you about two hours to carefully read, and Meditations is more of a collection of one-liners than it is a book to read all the way through. Both are available online, even in audio.

>>348885
>feminist epistemologies
what

everyone wishes they could be in STEM. If I had it my way I'd be an astrophysicist, but I fucking suck at math. That's not to say that I went into history because I thought it was easy, I love history and it is an obtainable dream career

>>343120

your post is pretty much nothing but bullshit, but

>Humanities is fucked by people who just want it easy
>STEM is fucked by people who just want money

that part is true, sadly

>>348917
OP here

i read somewhere that nietzsche BTFO the stoics, so on your "all i'll ever need" I'll see that to myself.

>>347245
I am talking within the context of 4chan, but plenty of people taking science degrees do look down on the humanities.

>>348885
this map is inaccurate.