What does /his/ think of Ken Burns? Is anyone on /his/ excited

>>3386510
it would be best if we forgot about Vietnam

>>3386524
Why?

>>3386510
Im pretty excited for it.

>>3386550
Because he is a communist who knows that any critical analysis of the conflict will inevitably lead to the conclusion that not only were the United States actions in Vietnam just and lawful, they also accomplished every single one of their objectives with minimal loss of life.

>>3387938
Did they win

>>3387986
At the time of the peace agreement (Paris peace acccords) the United States agreed to replace equipment on a one-by-one basis, but the United States did not keep its word.

>>3387986
Yes! Communism's spread was curtailed, meaning the Philippines, Japan, and SK were protected from the growing influence of the PRC.

>>3388018
so it lost
>>3388039
Were any of these countries in danger of falling to communism during the vietnam war

>>3388047
Domino theory. If the US kept allowing communists to take over Asian nations, soon even the ones who did not appear to be at risk would fall. The whole war is a catch-22, people only think it was a failure because it was so wildly successful.

>>3388071
is having a theory the same as it being so

>>3388076
>evolution is just a theory
>gravity is just a theory
>climate change is just a theory
It looks like Lysenkoism is back. Why do you communists like to deny science?

>>3388092
Lysenkoism was a theory as well, bruv. Therefore, you'll need a more meaningful indicator of the reality of domino theory.

>>3388102
Even if the domino theory isn't real (it is), the strategic goals the US set for the region were fulfilled. The only thing we're arguing about is whether the US needed to get involved with Vietnam to achieve these goals (personally I think it was worth the pocket change that we spent on the affair to make sure our allies didn't fall to authoritarian dictatorships).

>>3388132
If their strategic goal was to prevent aliens from invading the solar system, one could say they achieved those goals, insofar as at the end of the vietnam war no such event occurred.
But as it stands, the few communist movements of note in asia other than in indochina, where they had been firmly rooted, had mostly fizzled out by the *start* of the vietnam war.

>>3388148
The conditions for the US winning the war stopping the "eternal" revolution of Communism from spreading to real countries and breaking everything. Communism did not spread, meaning the US got everything it wanted and therefore won.
What you are saying is that since the spread of Communism had effectively stopped by the beginning of the Vietnam war, there is no way the United States could have possibly lost the Vietnam War. I have never thought about it that way, it makes a lot of sense considering how weak and pathetic Vietnam is.

>>3388179
Was it going to spread?
What I am saying is that the stated strategic goal was superfluous from the start.

>>3388092
Why did everyone call it "global warming" in the 90s but "climate change" now?

I mean most of undeveloped/colonized world "communism" was really just anti-western nationalism with a marxist paintjob to get support from the USSR in the first place. If the US had supported the Vietnamese against the French they probably never would have bothered.

>>3388204
As much as I want to agree, that would mean losing the French, who unfortunately had nukes.
It's certainly a damn shame that this was the case.

>>3388071
>believing domino theory
>implying Minh was a communist anyway

Did you have a nice day at high school?

>>3388132
Hold up all of our allies with the exception of Japan were authoritarian dictatorships

>>3388190
Because its gonna get colder in some places for a bit. The weather is going to get more extreme. "Warming" only implies one thing, and so for people to get it, we have to say "change" instead

>>3388190
>>3388481

Actually it was Republican strategist Frank Luntz who 'rebranded' it to make it sound more innocuous. He does this kind of thing a lot. Scientists and the media went with it for some reason.

>>3386510
He did a damn good job with his work on baseball, so ill probably give it a watch