How did this single letter destroy all Roman public virtue

>>3379765
explain

>>3379781
Alaric: Rome gib land
Rome: "No"
Alaric: K.

>>3379781
Hellenization ruined Rome

>>3379915
But all the letters are Greek.

>>3379921
adapted greek

>>3379966
Yeah, but the A's an A, and the B's a B, so who cares if K is K for Greek words?
I'm also curious as to what happened to Phi, because F is a Greek letter denoting the Wuh sound, Wau, but the Romans used it for the phi sound.

>>3379995
At the time Φ made an aspirated p sounds, contrasted with the unaspirated p of π. F (waw) was used in Etruscan for the V sounds which was then devoiced to the f sound in Latin

>>3380001
So phi didn't make the fuh sound, it made the aspirated P, like the sort we have in English, while pi made that gay unaspirated p sound it makes today in Greek

>>3379765
It's the K hater again.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/2634911/

>>3380011
English does not have any aspirated consonants. The closest English comes is when a 'h' is pronounced immediately after, e.g.

> hop house
> hob house
> hot house

These said quickly come close enough to the aspirated p-h, b-h, t-h. Greek pi is the same as normal English 'p'.

>>3380011
>the aspirated P, like the sort we have in English
Do you even know what aspirated means?

>>3380370
Yes it it does
Say "pot" and "spot"

>>3380904
Not aspirated.

>>3380920
You're either not a native speaker or are trying real hard not to aspirate it

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>>3379915
REMOVE GREEK remove greek you are dog filth u can live in field with macedonian cousin ahahah EPIRUS WE WILL GET YOU!!!!

>>3380931
I am native, and pronouncing it perfectly normally.

The air ejected from the mouth when pronouncing those words is the normal ejection for any consonant. I think you're underestimating how relatively forceful aspirated consonants are.

https://youtu.be/_JMxMQmEh7k?t=1m54s

>>3380904
See
>>3381048

One does, or should, not say p-hot, or sp-hot. These are unaspirated mutes.

>>3381048
>>3381079
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, or you'd know why I brought up pot vs spot. It's commonly known that stops at the beginning of English words are aspirated which is why you should notice a difference when saying pot and spot (or stop and top or spy and pie).

http://digitalcommons.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1133&context=sferc

>>3381102
Fair enough. I admit I'm wrong here.

But 'p' is still not an aspirated consonant per se, only by initial position.

>>3379915
But rome was similar to greek culture before they conquered them

>>3381124
It acts as an aspirated consonant in the initial position, so it is. The fact that we use the letter P to represent it is just a hold over from its romantic origin.