Why do people still believe in the "Europeans were illegal

Because people are unable to comprehend how things have changed over time.
They cant comprehend how morality has changed, or how things like citizenship and immigration have changed.
They deal in absolutes in their 21st century viewpoint on everything.

>>3343780
Incas were superior to Europeans though.

Because white people don't want to accept that they're invaders.

>>3343799
>superior
>got btfo by europeans

OP here. Not only did they not have laws against "immigration" (a concept that would have been meaningless for tribal North American societies) most Native American tribes killed and enslaved other tribes in order to gain the land they lived on when Europeans arrived in North America. The now worn out cliche of "huh dur white people are the original illegal immigrants" has zero basis in history and cannot be produced by any analysis of the relevant facts.

Look at all of these fucking autists taking it literally

>>3343799
Who would win? 100 europeans or the entire inca civilization?

What I don't get it how you can support mass immigration if this is your world view.

>white men "illegally" enter foreign land
>plague, war, genocide

>brown men illegally enter foreign land
>?????

>>3343867
Because whitey is evil whereas non-whites are noble and righteous

>>3343867
guilt inspired self-flagellating comeuppance

>>3343865
Is more like:

Who would win? smallpox or the entire inca civilization?

>>3343875
Europeans are superior to the incas for their immunity to diseases. Case closed.

I fucking love this argument

>Be against illegal immigration
>''But Europeans were illegals too!!"
>So ''illegal" European immigration into Americas was bad?
>"Yes of course, millions were genocided!!"
>So you're against illegal immigration, then?
>...

>>3343887
So you agree that colonialism was bad.

>>3343780
Immigration is an odd topic, and here is my take on it:

Let's say that the theory of Homo Sapiens originating from Africa is true. This would mean that the chance of the rest of the world being uninhabited is highly likely, and the first humans to establish a marked area were the first claimers. Immigrants are individuals who are entering land that is not theirs, and if they are strong enough, they can usurp control from the owners of the land they are invading. I am not certain why the Europeans did not completely obliterate the Native Americans, but they didn't and here they are today, non-owner residents in a land that was originally theirs. If the Europeans had completely killed off the Native Americans, then they would be the last living owners of the land, and they would be the rightful owners as the original owners could not claim ownership due to an older history with the land in question.

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>>3343996
Is it the disadvantage of mercy?
In another example, the latest wars in th e Middle East has been unwinable, or unfinishible at least, conflicts with us trying to fight like we are the good guys and win hearts and minds. Whereas if we had gone full total war we might actually beat them into submission.

>>3344276
>Whereas if we had gone full total war
We would've if genocide didn't become a dirty concept

>>3344276

The problem is ISIS isn't a state, even though they declared a literal islamic state. What I mean is they aren't a national army, they're around 30,000 individuals who have banded together. Individuals are trickier to fight because they don't have a governing body that can tell them the war is over and they have to stop fighting, it's more like a giant force comprised of thousands of the Japanese soldier in the cave that kept fighting WW2 until the 1970s.

>>3343879
Pigs must be the pinacle of humanity by eurangutan standards.

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fuck off, OP.

Indians were a bunch of stupid assholes who conducted slavery on each other and couldn't unite against the europeans in any useful way even under the threat of genocide.

>>3344253
Genociding and replacing natives putting them under social selection for centuries. Isn't this what is happening right now with brown people?

>>3344345
>pic
It's more like any kind of POV lead to the same conclusion. Let brown people in.

>>3344340
Pigs get BTFO by a fuckload of diseases. You wouldn't know because intensive animal husbandry was beyond your ancestor's capabilities.

>mfw Chad Euro raises pigs for ten millenium, gains immunity to all the diseases, fucking SNEEZES on the new world and woops 90% dead lol

>>3344371
Pigs are disease carriers, which was the point of the post.
>10k yago
Knowing that amerindians had 15000 years less to domesticate specimens, that seems normal. Actually there are several domesticated species.

>disease deaths
So you admit that might is right?

>>3344383
>Actually there are several domesticated species

Having some Llamas in the field you put a pen around isn't the same thing as what Europeans were doing at the same time.

>the Virgin Amerindian, arrives over Beringa too late to domesticate shit and gets BTFOd by the first eurochad they see sneezing in their general direction

>>3344409
It's simple. Amerindians had 15000 years less to domesticate such animals yet they did it quicker than europeans.

So, do you agree with might makes right?

>>3344276
>Is it the disadvantage of mercy?
Precisely!

If the Native Americans had been completely obliterated, then the Europeans would have been considered the oldest inhabitants of the land. Sparing the Native Americans means that they are still the oldest inhabitants of these lands and they can use the argument that everyone but them must be deported to make America fully original.

>>3344444
It's more like America belongs to the Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. Isn't this right?

>>3343812
>the ability to defeat somebody physically proves that they're superior

>>3344465
Actually, neither militar nor tactical superiority happened against the Inca empire. The Inca state resisted 40 years of epidemics after the campaign of the kidnappers but the mortality rate was causing a lot of problems. The last Inca was caught with several diseases too.

>>3343780
It mostly became a trope because of people thinking it's a really 'clever' comeback to anyone who might oppose immigration.

>>3344484
Irrelevant.
If it's true it's valid.

@@3343799
>he says while speaking a european language
bait harder

>>3344498
>communicating with subhumans
Is this your brainlet attempt of an argument, subhuman?

@@3344501
there is no argument because you're baiting lmao but go ahead and give me another (You) like a good shitskin

>>3344508
It's simple. I reminded you about Inca superiority. It seems that therer are a lot of fact deniers over here. Big surprise, eurangutan brainlets deny facts!

intellectually dishonest terrorists make fake arguments and absurd comparisons because they want our country to become another Iraq where our dictator leader digs holes for all the minorities they dont like (whites in this case) and fill them with so many bodies and blood that all you can see is red water from Google Maps. In the mexicans case they want us to be carved up like a butcher would carve up meat so the cartels can kill inncoent whtie americans who have done nothing wrong except dare to not be raped by the diversity hordes

What's the basis of your delusions?

>>3344575
CAIR is a terrorist organization, along with antifa who defend mexicans. Both approved of Saddam Hussein's blood lakes and defended the actions of Mexican child-butchering, mass-hanging, cannibalistic cartels by defending any and all immigrants and by waging war against the USA on the behalf of the mexicans, which by extension suupports the cartel's goals of mudering all opppoistion to them. Which the US is the greatest

>>3344583
The argument of OP's: "Europeans were illegal immigrants trope", doesn't belong to them though.

I just wanted to make it clear.

>>3344595
the people who carry water for both of those groups use the OP's argument. Ive even read and watched people support those groups and say they're in those groups

>>3344598
Yet, it doesn't belong to them, the argument.

>>3343780
Whites know, and they think that those new immigrants are actually planning the same thing, e.g. destroy the existing society, kill most of its inhabitants, and build their own society on top of it. Same thing with antisemitism. All white peoples were building colonial empires trying to dominate the world, so they though that the Jews must also secretely trying to dominate the world. And since they are not building empires, their "empire" must be hidden in the media and financial industry. Same thing with "Arabs are rapists" meme. White men fantasizing about rape projecting their own desires onto the Arabs.

So what is racism?

--> white guys projecting.

>>3344602
the only reason people believe in the argument is because the aforementioned murderous terrorists amoung other mobocartic murderors promote the idea in the demagogic fashion that they do. All who support this line of thinking, that the Europeons whom God gave their land to, are illegal, is purely from the realm of blasphemous and amoral groups. That have no understanding of what the law actually is, and still label the brave pioneers the equivalent of suicide bombers and human butcherers.

>>3344608
everything you just said is pure anti-white, pro-terrorist bullshit and conjecture. Then you say only whites are rascist? Look in a mirror, as you excuse and smear the heroes who slayed on the behalf of God the filthy brown hordes that disobeyed the laws of Gods from their legacy.

My ancestors were legal immigrants who settled with permission from Massasoit. They later started a war with his confederation, murdered his son and heir, and genocided his people.

>>3344626
>excuse and smear the heroes who slayed on the behalf of God the filthy brown hordes that disobeyed the laws of Gods from their legacy.
If you seriously believe that all civilizations that developed some kind of savagery should have been immediately eradicated, then I can agree with you as the early bronze age populations of europe wouldn't have put a basis to other cultures.

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>People still get baited by the incatard
This board is fucking retarded

>>3344632
they were eradicated, by the Roman Empire which was formed during the Iron Age. As a side note, there was never any 'bronze age' merely civilizations that did not use for whatever reason, iron technology

>>3344636
>were eradicated
>iron age
Why not eradicating them in the early bronze age, before spreading population, culture and development to other zones?

>>3344643
there was never a bronze age

>>3344608
There is also this in american art wide spread motive of a house, that has been build on a native american graveyard, that is being haunted by the ghosts of those natives. This is a quite clear proof of a sense of guilt in the collective american consciousness. Americans are building their houses -literally- ontop of the native's dead body and think they need to be punished for that (e.g. haunted by the ghosts of the dead natives).

>>3344646
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_Age_Europe

>>3344652
the earth was formed shortly before teh trojan war, which happend around 900BC

>>3344617
As I said before, the argument doesn't belong to them, assuming such implications aren't a valid answer in this thread.
>law
A social construct based on past consensus valid for those who submit to the state coercion and authority.
>god
Memes
>suicide bombers human butcherers
You still didn't focus on their argument.

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>>3344656
You mean God taught europeans, iron metal-working?

>>3344666
He still teaches it, so yes.

>>3344666
Iron is for monotheist virgins. Chads used pagan bronze weapons.

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>>3344669
So, God gave Amerindians the ability to discover iron metal-working, but spoonfed europeans with this same topic?

Hmm...

>>3344663
Im not assuming, those are the major groups that support the argument. You obviously have no respect for the law, or innocent life, or God, so why should anyone respect the wishes or votes or legal ambitions of filth that defend such an argument like you? You're no better than the savages that roam this earth, looting, raping, and then there children and whores defend them because they're a part of the tribe of savages. The enemy at teh gates to Rome, if you will.

>>3344681
He taught them too you stupid piece of garbage, do you think they also discovered archery, horseback riding, farming, language because they weren't God's chidlren? He may have loved them, but that doesn't mean you don't punish them for their crimes and sins

>>3344683
>innocent life
The thing is that all past events and consequences that had the same cause, genocide of amerindians and population displacement, are seen today. If we use the argument and ignore the past consequences, they could say the same thing about it, then tell the european survivors: "don't threaten on our state, now, don't be a terrorist".

>respect for law
You mean submission to the state authority? Is your law an idol? All those laws and your constitution had a purpose, why don't you bring them up?
>>3344687
>taught them too
No evidence of that.
>punish them
Actually europeans are being punished now for their crimes against amerindians.

>>3344700
You are an idiot if you think God's law is punishing someone for a crime after they commit it. Wouldn't you stop the crime, if they were God? Or rectify it during that very conflict? Being some anarchist, savage-apologist who has no concept of nobility or a civilization that doens't commit infanticide so they can grow up as children who refuse to actually get a a job and instead forage for food like hobos in a city dump. The evidence is all around us that God taught all people, have you ever heard of self-taught? They can just teach themselves whatever they want because God gave them that power and are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, as further proof, he sent men to conquer their tribes of murderers and then gave the survivors educations that weren't competently lost in sin through schools et al.

You also accused all people of claming to be good, when they are actually savages (which is false, the savages call the civilized by names like kaffir in todays world, and white-man and europeons) and that might makes right, well, if they are given a mandate by God to conquer then that might be true, but that only happens when the civilization murders and commits crime like the christians in rome or the savages in mexico and the middle east.

>>3344729
>punishing someone for a crime after they commit it
That's the point. After the replacement, there couldn't be a punishment.
>nobility/ civilization
Which happened on America.
>forage
So you admit that genocide provoked this?
>he sent men
To destroy this state built on lands that don't belong to them and genocide.
>civilization murders and commits crime
So you agree that europeans that commited sacrifice should have been eraticated immediately?

>>3344747
God would've not allowed the native americans to be humiliated if they were innocent. But they weren't so he humbled their murderous savage ways.America never had noble savages that is a myth, even when they trapized as emperors and confederations it was always just human sacrifices, tyrants, infghting, and eventually, the whoelsale slaughter and ensalvement of their people which they deserved for being savages that defied God's laws. The savages have always been foragers even in their suppsoed empires because they would forage for human sacrifices or berries or buts because they refused to get a job like any human should. All land belongs to God because he made it, so it is his right to give it away as he pleases, and punish those break his laws. Europeons that comitted human sacrifice should be eradicated immedaitly, yes. The civilization that did that were as was the case with the Carthagians.

>>3343780
You're just trying to cover up your white guilt

>>3344759
>God would've not allowed the native americans to be humiliated if they were innocent.
That's why the same is happening to europeans.
>refused to get a job like any human should.
The Inca empire was based on community family work.
>be eradicated immedaitly, yes
If they were, there wouldn't have been a mycenaean civilization nor the subsequent egyptian civilization nor the basis of iron-age development. Do you agree with such circumstances? Also, which part of the bible says that the world started with trojans? You are wrong.

>>3344773
>the bible
effectively entirely lies, nietzsche held more truths than the bible. The trinity is a pagan sham
The Europeon countries are being tortured, yes, but that is for their sins, and they were more disgusting in the past which only lead to the conquest of Spain adn some of the balkans. Even then, most were not converted, so their adoption of pacifism will lead to that at most. Probably less since the muslim countries are the ones being bombed into submission andm ade into western-style democracies. I don't care about what apologies you make for savages that worshipped Gold and cadavers more than men, don't lie to me. There were no human sacrifices in Egypt and crete is irelevant and no amount of science fiction fanfiction regarding their ruined socities will change that. Humanity devolpes through piety, not forgiving people for being abominations and hoping that they stop, which they wouldn't, unless they were punished with extermination, and were in all cases.

>>3344778
>The trinity is a pagan sham
It's more valid than saying that the world started with the trojans though.
>worshipped gold and cadavers
They worshipped them less than spaniards did.
>egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_retainer_sacrifices
>not forgiving people for being abominations
That's why europeans are being replaced.

>were in all cases
That's wrong. None of them commited sacrifice.

God made the bible, and the bible confirmed the savagery of europeans invading the middle east. It's obvious God is punishing europeans right now, decimating their population for all the atrocities they commited.

>>3344783
Earth is not the world tehre are other realms. The spanairds didn't commit human sacrifices for Gold like the Natives did. Retainer sacrifices are literally fake, they never happend and even if they did they weren't as heinous as the perversion that was the heart sacrifice. If they were Egypt would have been leveled just as the savages were. White people are made with the same skin tone as God which was found all across teh Roman Empire, proving they are not abominations like the filthy third-worlders who lived on a tiny plot of land and never did anything with their lives for tousands of years save Mongolia which is today somewhat developed which defines who is white. Since the dawn of man no Europeon country on europeon soil has ever been tainted with the impurity of savages, and never will for they are the closest to God in form. All savages commit human sacrifice whether it be to retain their lifestyle or please the Gods. Why do you think there were so few of them and they had rituals that promoted killing people if not to perform human sacrifice?
There is no savagey in invading the middle east as they are in need of punishment from the east to the north to the west to the south save those that are jewish or humbled like iraq. The europeon population has been rising since the dark ages and will continue to along with the newly made white countries who will turn white over time should they be worthy enough of it.

>>3343867
Most of them understand that and want mass immigration so that white Americans (all of which had nothing to do with the treatment of Indians) face hardship for something their ancestors did.

By saying this, they imply that brown people WILL cause trouble and that white people deserve this because of nothing more than their race.

This makes mainstream leftists far more racist than their mainstream right counterparts.

>>3344807
>human sacrifices
That's a lie.
>egypt
they were, by nubians
> for tousands of years
They did more than europeans in less time.
>There is no savagey in invading the middle east
Oh yes it is. The bible narrates the savagery of europeans and demonstrates how they deserve God's punishment.
>god is white
Humans were made by god's image. If europeans are subhumans, how could god look like them? That's nonsense.

>>3344817
>treatment of indians
It's more like this: America belongs to the Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. Don't you agree?
>By saying this, they imply that brown people WILL cause trouble and that white people deserve this because of nothing more than their race.
That has nothing to do with the argument, you are putting irrelevant implications to the argument.

>>3344818
Christfuckers go make your own thread.

>>3344830
After your pagan sect make their own thread. After all, the last will be the first in heaven.

>>3344826
A land belongs to whoever can control it. I'd prefer Muslims not controlling Europe since they will inevitably do a worse job than Europeans.

>nothing to do with the argument,
I can't help it if you're not smart enough to properly work your arguments to not make yourself appear racist. But don't try to blatantly lie to me and day it's irrelevant because it's based entirely on the argument YOU make.

>>3344838
>A land belongs to whoever can control it
Might makes right then.
>worse job
Worse than a social-democracy stagnant economy and the failure of two world wars before getting their entire population birth rate reduced completely? I don't think so.
>not appear racist
You just implied muslims will do a worse job...
The argument I make is this one: America belongs to the Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. Don't you agree?

>>3344849
>Worse than a social-democracy stagnant economy and the failure of two world wars before getting their entire population birth rate reduced completely?
This is way better than the current state of Muslim societies.

>You just implied muslims will do a worse job...
Muslims aren't a race.

>The argument I make is this one: America belongs to the Amerindians the same as europe belongs to europeans. Don't you agree?
No, because the Indians were wiped out and no longer hold it.

I don't know why you think this must mean that I should think that Muslims should own Europe, which will be your next point.

Might makes right, and Europe has the might to fight off Muslims. I'm only of the opinion that they should use that might.

>>3344836
Go LARP somewhere else, faggot.

>>3344876
>muslim societies
Well, they are obviously better because they are eclipsing western society.
>muslims aren't a race
Now we can agree that race has nothing to do with society tendencies?
>no longer hold it
This is the same story muslims will tell their kids in europe when they populate all of it.
>i don't know
It's simple. If might makes right, then why are you complaining that an inferior society is being replaced by another that didn't let itself to collapse?
>europe has the might
I think europe has nothing to stop muslims.
>>3344878
I think you are the one larping here, little guy.

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>>3344635
Why do anti-white leftists want to make 4chan their safe space?

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>>3344551
You don't see how history is repeating itself. Sure it's unfair. But the double-think in reactionaries is absurd. It wasn't fair for the natives or the victims of the slave trade. "B-but *WE* brought civilization to them!" No, they were conquered through force and a way of life was imposed upon them by their conquerors. "B-but they killed each other too!" That doesn't negate the aforementioned fact, in the slightest, nor is it a logical argument that justifies the subjugation of another people.. The europeans killed each other before conquering the new world as well. "B-but whites invented technology!" No, modernity did. Science as we know it is a continuity of many different advancements made by many different cultures. Having white skin does not make you interchangeable with all of the various cultures of the world.

So the main point is those westerners of European ancestry today are being bred, brutalized, and demonized in their own nations by foreign hordes. I agree this is wrong. But the typical reactionary isn't effective in his resistance against the tides of change. He abandoned his heritage long ago, as did the West as a whole for something else entirely. He refuses to adapt, instead making a roundabout turn towards tribalism under the guise of cardinality. Your ancestors would spit on you for living the way you do regardless; this isn't the old world. This is the beginning of the millennial world. Information and what people do with that information --- that is what decides who is on whom's team. Skill. Personality. Community. Affinity. The pales and darks will kill each other off while the new nobility is prospering in plain site.

>>3344948
>the pales
You mean the europeans and the muslims, the rest aren't getting that much involved.

>>3344818
why were all your favorite abominations that you coddle and hold like a rotten sandwhich jokes that were exterminated and wiped out then adn the stories of their chief crime being savages exist? Why didnt your God of justice do anything to save them, did he just want to murder people for doing a ebtter job than he did? Why is the middle east still Europe's bitch since the dawn of man? Have you ever considered that your God is dead?

>>3344962
>exist?
Are you asking me? That's obviously a made up story.
>your god
There are no "gods". Only one. The one who is punishing europeans for their crimes against humanity.
>middle east
Exactly. Less population but still resisting today against the crimes and corruption of western society.
>god is dead
European "god", surely is.

>>3344951
For now.

>>3344942
Why do Redditors act like they belong on 4chan?

>>3344979
Yes, relatively for now, as most societal changes, that affect the world.

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>>3344983
Why do you subhuman anti-white cuck leftist want to make /his/ your safe-space?

>>3344948
It WAS fair because God deemed it just which is why he allowed other people to torture and punish them and wipe away their old world for centuries. It's not just in this case because they bear the skin tone of God for them to be conquered by foreign hordes and converted as those religions (just like chrsitianity) are merely the same, savage notion of a local God doing things for your own people while forsaking the rest in hellfire (think allah and the pagan trinity). Europeons are the one invading and conquering these degenerates (ME, latin America) not the savages of the modern day conquering the west. You cry of the salve trade and the native americans, but do you truly beileve they would've become better without our help? Do you think their crimes should've gone unpunished just so you can spite the people who worked for the things they wanted when those civilziations formed the renassiance and the Roman Empire and the 'modern' you like so much? All the foreign aid in the world as espoused by 'modernity' has failed to do so which is why charities have failed to bring civlization or uplift people in any manginful way. HAven't you seen how a new plague breaks out in Africa, one after the other? How the west is punished by God with the plagues as well should we refuse to accept God's judgement upon them? Just look at what they've reverted into since the west stopped admisntering these savages, the Latin Americans went right back to butchering people like animals for the whole world to see. The Middle East to mass executions so that their rivals will bow to them. Africa to local warlords that kill and starve children. And you think this is 'modern' civilization?

>>3344986
Upvoted fellow MAGApede!

>>3344972
Then why are they all dead if they did nothing wrong? Why didn't your God protect these civlizations you claim were so innocent and righteous? Did he just want all people to die? liek you do? Is the middle east really resisting? when it blows itself to simthreens over tribal differences, when the place is reduced is selling drugs and each other's organs to pay for bread? Where are these resistances? The leaders of the middle east were all executed in the arab spring, the rest gave them bribes which will only ambolden them. The ME is in a reckoning, Europe is just in punishment to those who carry water for your bloodthirsty and savage ilk. your god is obviosuly dead or doesn't exist, as he doens't protect you, the people you care about, the land you claim was stolen. Or even your dignity as you apologize and apologize and dissauade people from documented fact that was proven in court before Gods and men.

>>3344992

Stop whining.

>>3344992
>skin tone of God
Humans were made by god's image. If europeans are subhumans, how could god look like them? That's nonsense.
>savages of modern day
They are the instruments of God to punish europeans.
>better without our help
They developed faster than europeans. Obviously yes.
>crimes unpunished
I think we all agree already that europeans are being punished, is it still doubted?
>roman empire, renaissance
It will happen too, after europeans receive their punishment.
>foreign aid
If you are worried the european survivors won't get foreign aid, I think they will get from other countries.
>west is punished by the plagues
And today it's being punished by their replacement.
>latin americans
Aren't those european mongrels?
>middle east mass executions
>middle east is europe bitch
There you have another example of european corruption and crimes.

Modern civilization is what God defines. If God wants to punish the subhumans that commited crimes against humanity, be it. God's plans will bring us to a better world after the replacement.

>>3345016
>they are all dead
Not all are dead. You see, God let people have what we call: "will". People have the freedom to commit crimes and hurt people.
>your god
As I said before, there is only one God.
>middle east
If you can't see how their populations are still alive after numerous evil interferences from europe, it's obvious God has plans with these people.
>when the place
A made up story. Sorry but you aren't a prophet.
>leaders of the middle east
>middle east is europe bitch
As I said before, another example of european crimes against humanity.
>reckoning
Another made up story.
>bloodthirsty
Wasn't europe controlling middle-east? As you see, europeans are evil, that's why God is punishing them.
>your god is dead
God is putting the subhumans where they belong, in the list of extinct ethnic groups.
>stolen
And God will punish the thiefs.
>documented
Where?

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Why are you even replying to the austist ranting about God?

Don't give him (You)s. It's a troll LARPer and even if he isn't you can't debate with someone like that.

Way to derail the thread faggots.

>>3345079
Do you mean this guy? >>3344626

>>3345057
the people who are being punished are all those that defend islam in its current statem whieverver they may be, all across the earth the abominations of islam and those that laud them are being ensalved, tortured, and your greatest instruments of punishment are blowing themselves up and being devoured by your fellow muslims as food. Which lauds muhammed as second only to God in their own demagogic and heathounous fashion. It is no wonder they needed a priestly caste to decipher their own holy books for them and when The mongol EMpire humbled them they fell into ruin that lasted until the ottomans. Now, they are once again in ruin because the refuse to allow the qoran to be taken from each every idiot in the middle east that lacks reading comphrension as they claim that they will form a new isalmic rome and renaissance which they have never truly had. Those that you call subhumans conquered the entire earth and brought each and everyone of your empires to ruin, and now you beg to punish your masters for daring to enact God's justice because muslims have no honor and don't beileve in justice. You even blame the west for your own leader's and poeple's crimes when it was a defaceto and dejure leader executing muslims and other faiths on giant lakes of blood not unlike that of the timruids or ottomans. You deny, and deny, and deny, but the death toll in the middle east continues to stack up, along with its westernization, democratization, and have forced many muslims to flee their own homes to beg europeons for everything they want reducing them to pets. Some rebel and kill themselves in a murder-suicide like some jilted ex-lover. In respose, the muslims death toll is counted by city, and country, and war, bombed and conquered by the west. Does your God let crimes occur? You claim they have free will which allows them to murder, then where is the "victim's" free will if it was a murder. Wouldn't they resist? Or did you and your God lie down like dogs?

>>3345003
Don't reply the poltard.

>>3345050
The truth may hurt, you may not like it and beg others to stop hearing it. But it eventually comes crashing down on you like a ton of bricks, as all you convictions and beliefs in the conqured peopels as more righteous than the victors of war. But your accusations will not go unchallenged, nor will you amnesty adn equalization of human filth that are criminals to the heroes that brought the industrial revolution to the whole world.

>>3345097
>defend islam
They wil be punished after europeans get their fate accomplished.
>mongol eMpire
>ottomans
All of those were God's plans.
>conquered the earth
Actually not, but muslims will conquer the west giving them what european murderers deserve.
>dejure leader
Consequence of european actions on middle-east.
>deny
I only seek the truth God reveals. Why do you keep pretending you are a prophet when you have nothing but wordplay like the same Muhammad you are criticizing?
>westernization
Actually they are evidently improving it. As their society isn't collapsing like the western one. Maybe God is behind this too.
>your god
As I said before, there is only one God. God let people have free will, if european subhumans decided to commit crimes and backstab all alliances for their material hegemony, is their own fault. Now it's time for them to get punished.

>>3345113
>But it eventually comes crashing down on you like a ton of bricks, as all you convictions and beliefs in the conqured peopels as more righteous than the victors of war.
That's the whole point of God's will letting muslims invade the west and punish the sinful europeans.
>industrial revolution
God brought industrial development. See? How you subhumans keep appropiating God's will as your own? You will suffer the same fate Aaron suffered before reaching the promised land for commiting the same sins as your filth.

>>3345134
There is no free will so you are obviously a charlatan claiming to follow God when you think that the ruler of all should allow people to torture without divine intervention for the entire duration of their existences. THere is no invasion of the west as God has not allowed any foreign invasion of Europe since before this earth was formed. Gods will is my will. The stories of random desert hobos trapizing around as tragic heroes serves only as a coutinary tale to all those who refuse to follow the one true god of the jews. Whose holy books are in each child's soul -continue to spring up throughout human history and art-. The europeons betray themselves not the filthy muslims, and you claim that he was a 'consequence' of the europeons. You can claim and lie before God and all to see that the europeons are to blame for petty muslim genocides, but the fact that it is the muslims who are being punished for it with invasion by teh full force of NATO is proof that it was the muslims who were comitting, not the europeons. Or do you claim the chidlren were raped by europeons and then executed by them aswell? Was their rape another consequence of europeons? Why do you think they were allowed to conquer Iraq and inspire the arab spring then? Do you deny that Sadam Hussein was teh defacto leader of Iraq who invaded Iran, Kuwait etal? HAve you not noticed how they are now mudering and invading the fanatics in Syria that he is gone? Proving that your islamic extremism is nothing more than butchering? IS there anything you won't deny as fact if it hurts your cause the allah is teh only god?

>>3344876
>Muslims isn't a race
That is being disingenuous coz you and that poster both that it isn't SEA Muslims that are entering Europe but from the Middle East. Using the label Muslims and then pretending you are not talking about middle eastern doesn't help your argument

>>3345173
>there is no free will
That's what your pagan sect believes?
>ruler torture
Subhumans and criminals should be punished. That's why God is doing it. Europeans used their free will to commit such attrocities to humanity. They will be punished no matter what "gods" they worship.
>jews
>desert hobos
The weakest and most humble start yet you see the middle-east still resisting against european manipulation and crimes.
>europeons betray themselves
All sides have traitors. Even children know this. That's no excuse to avoid your punishment.
>muslims
>nato
>sadam hussein
>syria
>middle-east is europe's bitch
Political and militar extraofficial interventions caused by europeans have caused such problems. Muslims have commited crimes against humanities, but their punishment will come after europeans get their dose too. That's what is happening right now. They can try to avoid it, their own nature is telling them to stop reproducing themselves! That's because you can't lie to your nature, which is God's creation.

I don't' get what's your sect point with Allah and muslims, maybe your nature is telling you to get interested in them as you will accept their entire population the next years.

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>>3343780
WHITE MAN MUST LEAVE
WE MAKE JEWELRY
WE HUNT BUFFALO
THEN WHITE MAN COME
ALL THAT GONE
WE MUST PREFORM THE GHOST DANCE NOW

>>3345203
So you agree with might makes right?

>>3345201
im not the one being punished you illitrate fuck. Why dont you pray if you dont beileve me, tell me what God says about free will. Or you can prove me wrong, make a die with numbers from 1 to 6 land on a 7 with your 'free will'. To even suggest that God has ever supported such a savage concept is proof that your people are beyond saving as you cannot even admit to your faith's culture of genociding the innocent. It's no wonder the filth that was ADolf Hitler carried water for your murderous, twisted ways. IF a person truly worships God then he would not be punished, which has lead men to getting to rule as king and aristocrats all throughout the europeon and western adn roman tradition. You claim some people are subhumans when all are made by God, does your God teach that some humans aren't deserving of a soul, or judgement before him? Then you say that it is their nature to deny their own physiology when many of the countries that support such policies have already been exterminated by God and its corpse is trundled around as a warning to all countries, especially the muslims. There is no God that would wait hundereds of years to punish people for things that happend before the Great War. No debt to God takes that long to incur, sounds to me like your God merely wants to murder, like The Father, who is still suffering after he was stipped of thigns even consciousness. The only crime against humanity the west has comitted is their own calling for peace and acceptance with the filth that is islam, which is in need of punishment. Europe in no way ruled over them, merely punished them and oncquered them. They left because the filthy muslims were not worthy of the treatment that south korea or Australia othe USA got that uplifted that land into prominence.

America is an evil nation built on slavery and genocide. Native Americans were right, white man has to go back. Not to Europe tho, we're full.

>>3344884
>I think europe has nothing to stop muslims.

I wish you would be let me know that you're completely retarded from the start.

>>3345016
He's a muslim, stop taking him seriously.

>>3345205
not him but it certainly determines outcome like aught else

>>3345229
>Why dont you pray
See? You think God is like a slave. You are probably from the corrupted and built on genocide state, you are united statian.
>savage concept
>god let the crimes happen
God punishes the criminals after they commit attrocities with their free will. That's why europe is decaying, for your murderous and criminal acts.
>adolph hitler used his free will to murder millions of people, yet it was the same european free will of backstabbing and trying to own all materials forgetting the word of God. That's why they are losing all they had.
>if a person worships god
No. If they commit atrocities against humanity they will get punished. The Roman empire was built on sacrifice focused cultures that built europe to what it is today. We can see their sucesors destroying everything and killing all other people, demonstrating again they need to be punished.
>all are made by god
Obviously. God made humans after he made animals. Isn't it fair to be preventive against the people who have been murderers for all history since the beginning of times?
>there is no God
God's sense of time is unknown for us. It's ridiculous how you keep trying to fit yout beliefs into how God acts.
>mistake of not
All humans commit mistakes and all societies have traitors. That's another excuse of those who are yet to repent for their sins.
>>3345246
As a proverb said: he who pleads his cause first seems right; until another comes and questions him.
>>3345244
If they had anything, they wouldn't let muslim replace them.
>>3345248
Whatever point it is, all of them lead to Amerindians having America the same way europeans having europe. Unless you want to commit intellectual dishonesty like this guy who claimed about his God and now he is rejecting it.
Truly pathetic.

>>3343799
europeans is written without capital letters, fag