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So what if the treaty of Versailles was worse?
1 Loss of colonies as usual.
2 France gets the A-L, the Saarland plus a few bits of German soil
3 Denmark get's some of it's old territory back
Belgium gets a "border adjustment" in the East
4 Lithuania gets that strip of East Prussia as in OTL.
5 Poland gets the corridor plus Danzig
6 All Germans residing in ceded land are to be expelled immediately by force.
7 Independent French puppets formed in the Rhineland and Bavaria (which includes parts of Wuttemburg). Both of these are forbidden to raise armies, are subject to indefinite Anglo-French Occupation, and are required to pay reparations.
8 Independent Polish puppet in East Prussia, same conditions with Rhineland and Bavaria (with Polish troops expected to occupy it once they raise an army).
9 Germany is forbidden from ever unifying with Austria, Bavaria, East Prussia and The Rhineland. Any attempt to do so will be considered an act of war.
10 Germany gets twice the OTL Reparations. Failure or refusal to pay them will be considered an act of war.
11 Germany gets the OTL arms restrictions... plus being forbidden from having a navy and air force, ever.
12 Germany may not have an army exceeding 80,000.
13 All territory within 40 miles of the border is a demilitarized zone. Moving troops into it will be considered an act of war.
14 Germany is forbidden from ever joining the League of Nations. Any request for membership is to be ignored and/or rejected.
15 Any violation of the Treaty no matter how "minor" will result in an immediate invasion by Entente forces.
So with this cartoonishly over the top treaty in place, what happens next post-versailles?
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>>3339124
The Allies wimp out and don't enforce it just like with Versailles. At the end of the day, businessmen wanted to keep Germany alive as a viable market, and nobody wanted to live in a world where there was no buffer state between the USSR and western Europe.
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>>3339148
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Treaties are nothing but spooky words on paper. They mean nothing if you're unwilling or unable to force people to actually do what they say.
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>>3339258
Look, in my mind, in order to have a successful "Hard Versailles" you need to finish WW1 with the Russian Empire intact. If Russia survives WW1, then it will likely absorb Prussia in the post-war settlement. The only reason this didn't happen in real-life is because nobody wanted to give the Bolsheviks anything. But if the Tsardom somehow survives, then you will very likely see a much harder Versailles.
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Pretty much any version of Versailles that isn't simply the fourteen points is doomed to create such shocks to the world economic system that the great depression is inevitable. So the question is, is Great Depression worth any Versailles at all?
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