Why does a caste system exist in Indian society? Why didn't

>>3323234
Because they're not egalitarians like subhuman westerners.

>>3323234
>Why didn't the Dalits just revolt against the Brahmin and Kshatriya?
Because they really are inferior.

>>3323234
Don't know

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What if the lower castes of India were bred to be subservient on a genetic level? Can we really discount the genetic effects of millennia of a rigid caste system?

Indian people always seem super nice and agreeable.

>>3323234
They kind of did with Buddhism and Tantrism and Yogism. The dharmic beliefs of burning in hell for a million lifetimes may have been more daunting than having to suffer for just one or several more lifetimes.

>>3323273
What are caste riots?

As a sidenote, why didnt India rebel against British rule?
Ireland used guerilla warfare and won despite being outnumbered and right beside Britain.
Why did India insist on autistic non-violence, i.e marching into batons and bayonets? They only got independence because of the decolonialism wave which swept the world after WW2.
As could be seen in Afghanistan, the Brits getting their asses handed to them was the only thing they understood.

India had a massive numerical advantage and was far away from Britain, could have literally kicked them out at any time.

The belief that societal castes need to fight against is each other is entirely foreign to non-westerners

>>3323310
They did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_independence_movement

>>3323321

Seems to just be a series of isolated tiny of groups operating locally for a short time over a 90 year span. Why did they never organise something that worked?

>>3323234
>Why does a caste system exist in the indian society
It existed everywhere, at least before the french revolution.
It kind of got extreme during the british rule as it started being sponsored by them.

>>3323329
Divide and conquer. "India" as a concept is British. They pitted all the ethnicities within the subcontinent agaisnt eachother. Religion vs religion, caste against caste, princes against princes.

For every group that rose up there was another group that quelled it. The Brits just had to wave their guns around and rely on technological disparity and economic hegemony in order to keep in charge.

The Irish - save for the sects - were hardly as divided as the "Indians" were.

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>>3323315
Nah they actually rejected Brahmanic ideals of superiority by the 6th century BC on logic based philosophic principles. They may have just been to scared of karmic retribution from engaging in violence.

>>3323329
Because of general mistrust between hindus and muslims and the fact that india was last united more than thousand years ago. The only reason brits got hold of india was because they struck deals and benefitted from both sides in wars between king doms.

>>3323329
Well your initial question was why did they never rebel and why the insisted on non violent marches. Most revolts aren't deliberately intent on failing either.

>>3323349
>indo-aryans
>conquerors
>the rest of the text
What a load of bullshit.

>>3323349
I highly doubt that the lower castes have rebelled against the brahmin only once throughout history. My point is west believes in equality, and we firmly reject the idea of a spiritual elite, we think power should come from the masses by democracy.

>>3323366
>it was peaceful, they voluntarily elected to submit to the Vedic Aryan invaders' language, culture, and religion and rule.

Indiafag here. Although the caste system exists all over the country It's at it's most extreme in the northern india. Down here in south it's mostly just Brahmins feeling superior to everyone else.
There probably is some genetic difference. The highest caste probably migrated here and treated the natives inferior but most of the system was based on the work a family did ( work was inherited and families continued the same line of work). Brahmin literally means priest and were considered highest. While 'chamar' considered a very lowly caste literally means shoemaker. Even lower were the people who cleaned sewage and corpses.
Fast forward to now, it's basically divided into general castes and other backward castes. The OBC's enjoy certain privileges now such as a certain required quota of seats which are reserved for them.

>>3323374
If they were invaders where is the invasion? Why was it indo aryan language, culture and religion. The indo-aryan invasion/migration theory is only supported by language trails, and falls flat on every other account. And Im not some out of India conspiracy cunt pajeet, Im doing my major in history.

>>3323376
North indians say caste system is more rampant in south india and vice versa. Which one is it?

>>3323389
Well language itself would seem to be a significant source of evidence especially having literary attestation. There's also the similarity in pantheon and beliefs with other IE cultures. No one's denying the possibility of syncretization with native beliefs and customs either. Also genetics and the presence of R1a in Brahmins and other castes. Also Vedic texts are said to describe a landscape which sounds like the one in the proposed IE homelands.

>>3323392
You probably mean Tamil States when you say south. I'm from goa. Our language is more similar to hindi but have a unique culture. Tamil/kannada are pretty different languages.
The north and the extreme south hate each other's guts. The media never really shows anything about the south. A militant south group even wanted to hijack sri lanka once to form their own country.
That being said, in south brahmins marrying into lower castes is a big no no. In north,in majority of the rural areas the women are just killed for caste mingling.

>>3323392
In Ramchand Pakistani a movie about a Hindu father and child living in the Pakistani side of the border being nabbed by Indian border patrol and put into prison depicts the presence of discrimination by people in that region.
The city of Sangli which was the setting of Vice's Prostitutes of God documentary has a Marathi majority and the documentary depicted people avoiding physical contact with lower castes.

>>3323426
>depicted people avoiding physical contact with lower castes.
*They actually avoided contact with the devotee prostitutes but other castes probably receive similar treatment.

>>3323423
>militant south group even wanted to hijack sri lanka once to form their own country

those "people" are pond scum

>rebel and employ terrorism
>hurr oppression pls take us in dumb westerners
>come to toronto
>form gangs and extort money and commit crime
>protest and screech in the streets demanding intervention

>>3323273
It goes deeper than that. The one's that were not subserviant would have been violently removed from the gene pool. They would have revolted and been killed. Most likely the slave families themself would do their best to remove rebellious genes on their. If one person revolts the whole family could get punished.

This event would also play out all over the world.

My theory is there is quit literally 2 sets of genes. A phenotype from the old masters and from the slaves.

>>3323234
It is a PIE feature expanded in India into 4 castes instead of 3, and somehow still kept to this day

Were the Muslims part of the caste system during the Islamic rule, or were they considered outsiders like the British later? If a person had converted to Islam, would he have become free from the caste restrictions?

>>3324967
A lot of people converted to Islam because it had no castes

So no, they were not

>>3323234
Because the Hindu monks said that if they revolt, in their next life they'll be far from Nirvana, plus they kill people who stop doing Dalit things

>>3323234
It was created by the Aryans(Caucasoid) to keep their racial purity and to not racemix with the natives(Veddoid and Mongoloid).

>>3323273
>Indian people always seem super nice and agreeable
They aren't being sincere

>>3323273
Are you really naive in real live? Like with cultaral arabs sellers or Nigerians , when they do that it's when you have to put your guard up.

>>3323234
Aryans.

>>3325384
>every single Indian person i interacted with was behind the counter of a 7/11 trying to use his charm to sell me Snickers

>>3323234
Because the Bramin told them it was right and the Kshatriya had all the political power?

>>3323273
Most of the Indian people you meet in the West will be Kshatriya or Vaishya. All of the poor people can't afford to leave India.

>>3325235
No there was a lot of mixing throughout that time.
It isn't a racial separation but a occupational one (Brits turned it racial).

>>3325954
False, genetic studies shows that there was a mixing which occured around 2000 B.C. (coinciding with the aryan invasion) but that after that initial mixing the castes have remained endogamous.

>>3323315
Not really. The west just inherited the class struggles of the Romans.

>>3323389
genetics support it too, Indians that are lactose tolerant have the same genes for it that europeans do.

>>3323234
>Why does a caste system exist in Indian society?
It's an extension and metastacization of traditional, segmentary kinship groups. It's hard for a westerner to understand, but it's a perfectly logical outgrowth of a larger Indian metaphysical/religious system. Social mobility isn't obtained in this life but in the transition to the next by being the best example of your caste you can be.

>Why didn't the Dalits just revolt against the Brahmin and Kshatriya?
Too distant and irrelevant to daily life to matter.

>>3323349
Spot on. But Buddhism didn't really catch on in its native India as much as it did in, say, China. Jainism is also another protest religion that rejected the metaphysical order but that didn't really catch on either. It may have millions of adherents but it has no broad social acceptance in the subcontinent.

>>3325954
not race exactly, but it's more like a pedigree or super-extended genetic family. Being Hindu is like being Jewish in that there are 3 parts-breed, creed and culture.

>>3323234
They feared the black warrior.

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>>3323234
The caste system, which is more or less the material expression of an ancient Traditional wisdom, was upheld because the higher castes (namely the Brahma) were looked up to, and their authority revered and cemented into every aspect of the thought of life.

>>3323234

the kshatria were a warrior caste, one of the functions of a warrior caste in a caste system is to kill people that fuck with the caste system, even today theres a lot of caste violence in india, that plus a lot of cultural bias and generaly low living standards probably kept things in place