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>JUST

>>3318486
>citation needed

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>>3318210
Pretty funny how an infantry square in the middle of the desert is better at holding an assault from numerically superior forces than fucking casemates with MGs

Roughly the same number as OP pic, but different result

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>>3318210
JUST fuck my empire up, senpai

>>3318493
the difference of course is that the casemates were assaulted by gung ho americans, and the infantry square in the middle of the desert was slaughtering t*rks

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>>3318210
J U S T fuck my m*joos up fãm

>>3318210
>18% of the manpower
>28% of the casualties
That's not really all that great.

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>>3318210
Hahaha soviets suck at war honestly

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>>3318542
anon...

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>>3318555
A name of the battle would be helpful

>>3318568
>loses more men than they started with
>only in Russia

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>>3318568
2nd Jassy Kishinev

>>3318579
>February 1945

You realise those soldiers were probably elderly veterans or underage with little training

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>>3318588
it's their fault for expanding all their able bodied men
so much for muh k/d

>>3318601
>Germany: population 70 mil
>USSR: population 200 mil

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>>3318608
should've not declare war with a country almost three times your population i guess?

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>expend thousands of troops to capture bits of mud in a swamp
>Praise Ali what a ""victory""

>>3318611
I mean those K/D numbers aren't super crazy

>>3318573
Italy's a contender for that as well though

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>>3318617
here's my favourite k/d ratio
it's better than German ones because Finns are fucking inferior in all regards except willpower

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>>3318210
>muh Panthers

lmao

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Can't have a thread like this without bringing up the Mongols

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>No one has brought up the Portuguese or African Anglo's
The fucking state of /his/

Portuguese:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cochin_(1504)
>K/D 5000:0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Macau
>K/D 50:1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Elmina_(1625)
>K/D 42:1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atoleiros
>K/D Heavy:None

Rhodesia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dingo
>K/D 1500:1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eland
>K/D 1058:0 (In blackface and enemy territory, pic related)

I venture to say the the Portuguese warrior is the most fearsome of all and Anglos are the most cheeky.

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>>3320038
>African colonial wars

That's just cheating
Shit was just too easy

>>3318612

>ywn see air to air helicopter combat

fuck this was the last great war

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>>3318210
not even the best hussite commanders

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gg ez

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>nobody has posted the GOAT of all battles

>>3318608
During invasion Germany+allies and occupied population had quite bigger population than USSR.

>>3320948
this, Hitlerites controlled 2,4x population that Soviet government in late 1941

>>3318506
Italy was a mistake

>>3318555
Good ol' Romania

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>>3321072

>>3318502
>posting bullshit numbers

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>>3318555

>>3321127
Pure, concentrated slave morality

>>3318502
>that giant estimated range
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit.

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Gayr*ek subhumans BTFO.

>>3318210
pure fucking treason

>>3318493
mount tabor isn't in the middle of the desert

>4300 casualties

This is considered a huge sacrifice in America. Meanwhile at Stalingrad or Kursk that would be the red army's hourly casualties

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>>3318210
>This
Canucks, amirite?

>>3323566
Ok

>>3323787
>America's hat lost 313 troops invading an empty island.
>BTFO

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>>3318210
most of these should work

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>>3323490
rude.. we had wins too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bizani

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>>3318210
>the D-Day planners expected to reach the Rhine 350 days after landing
>German resistance imploded so rapidly the Allies reached phase line D+350 on D+97
>they reached the Elbe by D+323

Germany underperformed massively

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>>3318210
J U S T
U
S
T

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tannenberg_Line

This is the battle that for me proves the superiority of the Wehrmacht as a fighting force. I'm not a wehraboo, I think the Germans got what they deserved by declaring a war on the entire fucking planet with 0 industrial base to back it up.

Look at this shit, the Soviets had a higher number of casualties than the number of troops they started with! The Germans just wouldn't let go

>>3321061
why hasn't anyone just wiped Italy off the map yet? the Wehrmacht would've been better off turning their guns against those animals and deal with (((them))) later.

>>3318486
what? did they chased them down a cliff?

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>>3318210

Perhaps the greatest humiliation that the British Empire suffered during WW1, other than the Somme.

>>3325160
I think the Germans problem is that they took the wrong lesson from Frederick the Great. He was a great commander, and had well-drilled troops, but he somehow got himself facing France, Russia, Austria, and Sweden simultaneously. But in the end he survived the Seven Years War through a stroke of incredible luck when the Russian Empress died, and the successor was a Prussiaboo. The lesson learned from that should have been "value diplomacy, and don't get yourself in that situation to begin with", not "we can take on the world".

>>3325191

Wouldn't a REAL prussiabo have wanted to absorb Prussia into the Russian empire?

>>3325213
If you truly love something, the best act is to let them be free.

>>3325248

All I want is a timeline where I can be a Russo-boo and Germa-boo at the same time. Why do my two historical favorite empires have to constantly wreck each other? It's not fair.

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DESIGNATED

>>3325191
They're always well trained and efficient, but if the war isn't over fast they out strip their own economy

>>3325191
Technically he was facing France, but he BTFO'd them so bad they decided to never field an army against him again.

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>>3318630
Ah yes, the winter war. A perfect example of russian "victory".

>>3318630
>Soviets defeat Germans after few years of fights
>It was only thanks to general Winter

>Soviet army literally freezes to death by 10'000s in Finland
>muh k/d

>>3325644
At least it emboldened Hitler to go dick first into the meatgrinder that was the USSR, ridding us of fascism once and for all.

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>>3325784
> ridding us of fascism once and for all.

WRONG

>>3318210
>any war in the Israel-arab conflict

>>3322750
I remember that one

Not sure if it's been posted, and can't be fucked to look.
Carrhae

>>3325213

That Prussiaboo kaiser didn't have the political support at home to do anything that drastic, only to end the war.

He was considered a weak-willed ruler, and got his throne usurped by his wife, who would crown herself Empress Eкaтepинa II.

>>3326841
bleh, prussiaboo Tzar

>>3318588
>You realise those soldiers were probably elderly veterans or underage with little training
>there is no way they were battle hardned vererans who lost
git gud

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>>3318586
Hill 262 was a hell of a drug

>>3320038

> We machinegunned down some pygmies armed with sharpened twigs. Muh KDA.

>>3326893
The worst part was they showed up in Northern Germany and the Soviets were sitting there in the way with massive trollfaces on and they couldn't even go home because no one cared about them enough to fight WW3.

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>defeat Napoleon, greatest military commander of his era
>sail to New Orleans
>get BTFO by a bunch of dumbass redneck hicks
What went wrong?

>>3326923
Andrew Jackson is literally invincible

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>win thoroughly during the war
>gets whipped by both America and the USSR
>shows your population that you're both 2nd rate powers now
>makes Egypt join the soviet camp
>creates a political crisis in your countries
>inadvertently fuck over the Hungarian

>>3326923
Got too used to field battles and not enough with assaulting fortifications.

I mean ffs, the facines and ladders for getting over the ramparts were at the BACK of the attack columns and the entire attack plan relied on fog staying around long enough to cover the advance, like they thought luck would always play out in their favour.

>>3318573
>what are German "muh hordes" excuse
>what is Soviet loss system when wounded soldiers are counted lost as well, even if they recover

>>3318588
So, 1941 when Germany scored huge k/d because of untrained soldiers is okay, but when the situation is reversed in 1945 it doesn't count. You, sir, are a top tier retard.

>>3322682
What theme/style are you using?

>>3326923
>defeat Napoleon

>>3326923
>brits
>defeating us

>>3326923
>What went wrong?

British soldiers
At Waterloo, less than 15% of Allied troops present were British
At New Orleans, it was 100% British

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>>3326966
>Got too used to field battles and not enough with assaulting fortifications.

Yeah, Brits were real fucking shit at storming fortified positions

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How can they even compete?

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>>3328057
BLACK
HAWK
DOWN
I REPEAT
BLACK
HAWK
DOWN

>>3328029
>the virgin anglo-saxon
>the chad gaul

That one battle Croats vs Ottomans, something on S was beutiful

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Has this been posted already?

>>3318555
>Have 500000 men.
>2000000 enemy soilders and holes in the frontline due to treason.
>Take heavy casulaties after their allies turn on you.
Wow, now I am impressed by the Soviet union.

>>3318525
Weird numbers.

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This isn't even particularly special, most battles of the Civil War were like this.

>>3319996
Maybe I am wrong, but I just can't make myself believe 100% in Medieval Asian stats.

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>>3318210
by the way this was a fucked battle, over 10k chinese assaulted 1k canucks and aussies, aussies pulled back, and canucks literally had to go into hand-to-hand combat to hold the hill

korea was fucked

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>>3328221
This war was hilarous

>>3328238
half of the war was just americans and commonwealth troops leapfrogging from hill to hill while the chinese threw masses of infantry at them and failed miserably

this is why I'm not afraid of the chinese, and considering their lack of technological progression across their army, I'd doubt their strategies have progressed much either

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>>3325175
From Wikipedia

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>>3318210

>>3328022
only correct answer

>>3318635

JUST

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>>3328238


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Imjin_River

1 thousand British losses

vs

10-15'000 Chinese losses

>attack fortified positions frontally and across rough terrain (and a river)
>British just call in Australian artillery and cut your attacks to shreds
>British start running out of ammunition and begin to be overrun
>overrun the British
>your army is crippled with most officers dead or wounded
>your army of 27'000 was crippled attacking a brigade on a hill (Brit Brigades are 1000-3000 men, this case it was around 1500)

"Based on estimates, Chinese casualties in the Battle of the Imjin River can be put at around 10,000.[63] As a result of the casualties suffered during the battle, the Chinese 63rd Army, which had begun the offensive with three divisions and approximately 27,000 men, had lost over a third of its strength and was pulled out of the front line"

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The ottoman FEAR the monk warrior.

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Probably Napoleon's last great victory.

>>3321072
>mfw live in Dithmarschen
God bless die sumpfratten

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>>3329630
I'd say it's this one
Ligny was okay too

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>>3322813
>>3321290

>

>>3318525
haha fake news
byzantines were outnumbered

>>3318661
Man the Lorraine Campaign was a real shitshow for the Germans huh? Why were Patton's boys kicking so much ass while Bradley was getting his ass handed to him at Hurtgen?

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>>3325644
The Finns must have a layer of ice around their hearts

>The Iceman Cometh

also, I think The Battle of Chosin Reservoir belongs this belongs ITT

>have to disband 2 entire division and almost a 3rd
>chinks proved you can win a battle by burying your enemy with the dead bodies of your soldiers

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The only good thing the anglo's ever did

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Not necessarily casualties, but losing a fleet to cavalry's gotta hurt.

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>>3330032
>when your opponent's debuff ends

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>>3318210
Does this count?

>>3330413
>celebrating your pubfight victories

>>3318210
The Russians and Finns had battles at the level of reinforced companies during the continuation war that killed everbody. Does that count?

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>>3330338
>Not necessarily casualties

Captured = casualties too
So your pic is 100% vs 0% casualtie rate, the best achievable
Goes for pic related too btw

>>3318210
Dude, I am usually pro 3rd Reich when it comes to battles but this is bs.
They had heavy fortifications and the US had to storm a frigging beach by landing there with their ships while heavy mashinegun fire tore them apart.
It was a meat grinder.

>>3318506
This always fucks my shit up.
Italy even lost all their battles against the habsburgs in WW1 except the last one.
The last on they won due to Austria already having surrendered kek

>>3318579
>Soviet clame

Yes, Stalin was a good boy when it came to numbers. Keep it real man.

>>3320048
This one always gets me

>>3320825
Do it again, Bomber Harris!

>>3330970
Same could be claimed of the nazbol,any casualty count should be taken in stride

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>>3318210

>>3331069
The commies fear the sauna warriors

>>3318210
You realize that is a worst K/D ratio than the allies right?

>>3330603
>celebrate arabs running in and socking the byzantines in the teeth while they were depopulated and weakened from the byzantine sasanian wars
>turn around and complain when the byzantines recover and start beating up the arabs
>turn around and start celebrating when turks run in and sock the byzantines in the teeth while they were depopulated and weakened from the fourth crusade

amazing

>>3331108
K/D ratio =/= death percentage on total stength

>>3331111
>muh byzantines were weak excuses
Apologists have no place in a history board. Please leave OR hard-source your statements with several unbiased historians.

>>3328195
historical records of the mongols are the biggest wankjob in history.
They are overrated in virtually every single way a group of people can be overrated.

>>3328247
>failed miserably
To disprove that claim i reccomend you take a gander at a map of Asia and count how many Koreas there are and then ask yourself why that might possibly be.

>>3331141
>unbiased historians
>says the Araboo who based his sources on Arab and anti-Heraclius sources

>>3331141
How do you think a couple of sandniggers managed to conquer so much from a mighty and powerful empire? Of course they were fucking weak

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>>3330603
Is there anything more despicable than Araboos?
>be Arab
>take advantage of two weakened empires and conquer their lands
>eventually you stop expanding as you get your ass kicked west and east and then break up into different sultanates
>get eventually BTFO by the crusaders until a fucking KURD had to lead you to victory
>get sacked by the Mongols until you reach the stone age and the few of you who resisted were being led by FUCKING TURKISH SLAVES
>become Turkish bitches and remain that until some gaylord Brit told you to rebel against them some centuries after
>now half of the Arab countries rely on oil to survive and your countries are socially shitholes while the other half are in constant turmoil
Day of the Greek Fire for Araboos when?

>>3331389
>How do you think Sandniggers conquered an empire
How do you think a pack of similar sandniggers brought Rome to its knees?
How do you think a bunch of Greeks conquered Persia?
How do you think Caesar conquered all of Gaul outnumbered, and won the war against the Republic, outnumbered?

They had a military genius you fucking autist. His name was Khalid ibn Walid.
>but muh byzantine empire weakened
Arabs were weak, too. They had their own years of wars before they went north. Constantinople alone probably had nearly the same number of people inhabiting the entire fucking Arab peninsula.
>>3331397
>araboo
Had a hearty kek. I don't give a shit about sandniggers, I just like to spread my asscheeks and drop hot turds on the heads of revisionists who don't back-up their shit/biased "historians" (Historian being too good a description for a pseudo-intellectual like yourself)

>>3331403
Military geniuses help but they never win wars by themselves, anyone with a brain knows this. The byzantines had suffered a long period of decline and were not expecting the arabs to come out of nowhere and put up that much of a fight.

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>>3331403
>he talks about biased historians while being biased himself about the numbers as his only actual source of the Byzantine numbers was born A CENTURY after the battle itself
>he conviently ignores that the wars in the Arab peninsula were nothing compared to the constant thirty year war by the Romans and Persians which also left the Middle east in ruins and brought both empires to the verge of bankruptcy and plague
No anon, you are the revisionist.

>>3331431
>>he talks about biased historians while being biased himself about the numbers as his only actual source of the Byzantine numbers was born A CENTURY after the battle itself
Not him, but that doesn't matter. Literally everything we know about Alexander the Great, is 200 years after his death. Having Byzantine sources written 100 years later actually supports his argument more than it does for yours.

>>3331427
>put up that much of a fight
Yes, exactly. Under normal conditions the Arabs would've been quickly footstomped by Byzantine might. But who would've known the Arabs were led by a genius who mopped the floor with large armies using deception, effective flanking, mobile tactics, shock-and-awe, against an army that has traditionally ran straight at its enemies no tactics involved?

>military genius helps but never wins war
This is an undescribably childish, pathetic, and retarded statement. Leave this fucking board immediately.

>>3331431
Hello again, next time try to keep all your hot garbage in one-post please. I value my muscle energy more than moving my mouse repeatedly to reply to you.
>Talks about historians being biased while he himself is using Arab sources
I'm not relying on Arab sources. I'm relying on modern ones, can you bring me more than 3 modern historians who agree that Byzantines had EQUAL numbers to Arabs? don't produce another post until you do. Until than no more (you)'s, off you go.
(Hush guys, don't tell him about Theophenes so he doesn't realise how much of a complete asshat he is)

>>3330074
China did pretty well considering how little of everything they had except for manpower

>>3318472
it's said 20% of the adult male population of rome died in that battle.
two consular armies killed off in an evening

>>3330074
>By the end of the battle, more Chinese troops had died from the cold than from combat and air raids

>>3331441
Doesn't matter either, some of the things about Alexander might be bullshit due to the fact that they're writen centuries after his death so treating them like they all happened is equally retarded.

>>3331454
First of all try to keep your /leftypol/ autism on /leftypol. Secondly, tell me WHERE those modern historians base those numbers from. I'll wait.

>>3331483
bait detected

Alexander never existed guys

>>3322813
>>3321290
>get absolutely btfo
>"f-fake news!!"

shut the fuck up you fucking faggot byzantaboo. your shitty empire got trashed to hell and back and never recovered, and you know it.

>>3331483
>ywn be this delusional
feels good man.

>>3331501
>>3331675
nice argument fags

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>>3331483
>gets absolutely BTFO
>cant source because he knows he doesn't have any sources, not even contemprary byzantine ones (Even Theophanes puts the Byzantine army at a whooping 140,000 thousand at Yarmouk)
>"h-haha fucking leftie autism
>"y-you revisionist list your sources you're the revisonist not me"
>"I'm gonna go ahead and say all ancient sources are fucking bullshit everything we know about Alexander is fake because this opinion fits my current retarded shitty argument"
>"all modern historians including David Nicolle, Fred Donner, Cyril Mango (Oxford professor of Byzantine history) agree that the Byzantines easily fielded armies between 80,000-130,000? fake news, revisionists. Ancient Muslim historians. YOU need to provide sources"
>brings his petty shit-smeared /pol/ to 1400 year old history
>"if you don't agree with my version of history you're a lefty and should go to /leftypol/

wew lad. Are you lobotomized or someshit?

>>3331966
It fucking surprises me how mongols like him muster courage/dignity to go to /his/. Leave him be, he shits up any thread where Byzantines are mentioned and screeches when asked to source and falseflags.

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>>3331483
>get rofled so hard you call someone a lefty

>>3318210
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vítkov_Hill

>26 lads and 3 lasses (later reinforce by bunch of flaimen and shooter to strenght of 60) against 7-8k of German and Hungarian soldiers
>Leaving 144-500 dead Germans

>>3329588
Wut?

>>3330561
>Japanese aircraft losses
Are strategical kamikaze losses not something like used ammunition lol?

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>>3320048
>burger military

>>3318486
>>3328261

superior asian strategy

they play go while we play poker

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>>3330603
>pubfights
If the Arabs had won any of the Constantinople sieges you'd be gloating how great they are.

Seriously though why is it whenether people talk about how based the Arabs they only refer to Khalid and nothing else? At least with the Byzantines you have Justinian, Heraclius, Basil II, the Komnenian dynasty, etc which people like about but with the Arabs you have Khalid and nothing else. Not saying that Khalid wasn't an impressive general but he's the only noteworthy Arab warlord besides Mohammed.

>>3333373
>dominated a quarter of the world without good generals
Man the arabs are fucking based

>>3333435
If by dominated you mean getting dominated by steppeniggers and Iberian Gothic rapebabbies while indulging into constant civil war ever month then sure.

>>3333467
this desu

>>3333467
>losing territories after ruling them for centuries
>a civil war every now and then
Sounds a lot like the romans desu. Few people have accomplished that much

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god damn the north and their unwillingness to record their casualties in order to maintain "muh morale"

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That moment the afrika korps got cucked by 5000 french

>>3329588
turkroaches BTFO

>>3333373
>You have Khalid and nothing else
Because you don't read shit about Arabs

>>3331483
>17 hours ago
>still no response
So I guess that settle's it.
Screencap all of this so if this fag screeches in the future we post it.

>>3318210
>defending
Gee, who would've thought?

>>3318630
>30november-13 march
so soviets are actually retarded enough to start a war in winter, wow

>>3320072
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

No

>>3335224
>British land army

Case in point

>>3323566
sovietboo pls leave

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>>3333373
Saad ibn abi waqqas
Al muthana ibn al haritha
Al qaqa ibn amer al tamimi
Tariq bin ziyad
Salahudin al ayubi
Baybars

You don't know shit about Arab history you dumb uneducated fat Ameritard

>>3335318
>Salahudin al ayubi
>Arab

>>3335318
kek the last two aren't even Arabs

>>3335332
>>3335337

He was an Arab from tikrit, he wasn't a Kurd. Kurds didn't exist back then.

Europeans shouldn't be allowed to talk about Arab history, honestly. You guys don't know shit. All European and American IPs should be banned from /his/

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>>3335349
>He was an Arab from tikrit, he wasn't a Kurd. Kurds didn't exist back then.

>>3335353
>>3335337
>>3335332
>Rawwadid or Ravvadid (also Revend or Revendi) or Banū rawwād (955–1071), was a principality ruling Iranian Azerbaijan from the 10th to the early 11th centuries, centered on Tabriz and Maragheh.[1] Rawadids were originally from Arab ancestry, and arrived in the region in the mid eighth century,[2]

Also his language was Arabic

>>3335377
>but they had become Kurdicized by the early 10th century and began to use Kurdish forms like Mamlan for Muhammad and Ahmadil for Ahmad as their names[3][4][5] The Rawandid tribe moved into Kurdistan in the mid eighth century, and it was known as a Kurdish tribe by the tenth century.[6]
Why did you forget that?

>>3335382
Because they were of Arab origin and Saladin himself was arabised, so the fact that they were in the beginning Arab, in the end Arab, but in the middle kurdified, doesn't make Saladin not an Arab but a Kurd

>>3335387
Just because the dynasty was Arab at first but then intermingled with Kurds and the descendants were then raised to become Kurds doesn't make them Arab either. By that point Saladin might've been only 4/32 Arab

>>3325160
I'm fairly certain it was mostly SS, Estonian conscripts and foreign volunteers.

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Winter war 2: The soviet grinder

(continuation war)