So apparently WWII equipment was so heavy soldiers couldn't

Did he get shot or break both legs at the same time?

>>3316762

They are drenched in sea water which is going to massively increase the weight.

>>3316791
Apparently shot. Besides how could you even get both of your legs broken by fucking running?

>>3316762
The whole of WW2 is fake news created by ((((((Zionists))))), it never even happened.

>>3316801

By carrying a fuckton of weight, up a slippery beach, while everything is wet, and you're being shot at

American soldiers are so fucking fat that they just walk when they are under gunfire lmao I bet instead of bombs they just threw their fat ass soldiers out of planes for the same result.

>>3316762
The cameraman doesn't seem nervous at all...

>>3316762
They are soaking wet, mate

Why did they let out the soldiers in the middle of the sea?

>>3316850
Also that guy in the lower right from 0:00-0:04

>>3316762
>carrying, roughly, 100lbs of gear
>just spent a ton of energy trying to sprint through waist high water
>now all your gear is soaking wet, adding more weight
>having to do all of this on sand as well

>>3317574
Defenses were installed on the shores to damage landing craft.

>>3316762
Yeah, then they get sleepy and lie down for naps.

You absolute fucking retarded mong.

>>3317600
Why did americans give the soldiers of the first waves 100lbs of gear when most of them would be cut down anyway? Just give them a gun, ammo and water.

>>3316850
>>3317582
Is this a reenactment or war is always that comfy?

I love seeing Anglos die at the beach
it was totally not necessary
they were racing the soviet union who where defeating the germans
so many americans and englishmen dead because their leaders wanted hegemony in europe

>>3317606
Because then how are they supposed to move through infantry defenses?

If you give the first wave nothing but weapons and save the gear for later on, you're either killing them all or forcing them to bunker down and wait for gear to come before they can do anything useful.

>the allies only managed to defeat germany whilst they were fighting a massive battle against russia in the east
>normandy was just a shell of an army
really makes one think

>>3317622
The dude that fell went down pretty convincingly if this is an act.

>>3317631
Edgy

>>3317635
Still won.

Still exist.

>>3317635
>3000 casualties on a 100 km battle front
The mother of all battles.

>>3316762
Footage looks slowed down quite a bit. What they're carrying isn't exactly just combat load either.

>>3316762
I think he got shot, bruh.

>>3317650
No, that would be Kursk.

>>3317688
Dude, do the maths, it's 3 bodies every 100 meters. Probably the safest operation of the war.

>>3316762
Soldiers have always carried approximately the same amount of weight. Usually around 35 kilos. This goes all the way back to Roman times. But we are talking about professional soldiers on the march here, not shitskin sandniggers who roam the mountains eating gravel and drinking goat piss.

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>>3316762
>So apparently WWII equipment was so heavy soldiers couldn't run?
their equipment wouldn't have been as much an issue as the wetness, could add an extra 20 or 30 unbearable pounds right out of the water

>t. grandpa in the newfoundland merchant navy

>>3317712
>professional soldiers
>ww2

>>3317727
m8 do you know how much time the allied forces had to train the ground troops of d-day
that was the first real attempt at a western front offensive since dieppe
if they had enough time to set up a complete fake departure base in calais to pretend to train for a crossing of the channel, imagine how much thought was put into the actual offensive

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>>3316762
It's post battle, when there was no danger anymore
They walk to avoid exhausting themselves
The guy who fell wasn't shot, he twisted his ankle (and then remained on the ground because he was lazy)

>>3317606

Because we could afford it unlike your classic Russian approach of "eat bark off trees for rations; trust your nugget" approach

>>3317739
Most troops went through 5 weeks of basic, that's it.

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>>3316762
>mfw WW2 vets lied when they said the epic scene in Private Ryan was accurate while it was in real life a bunch of akward cunts walking slowly on the beach while a few Germans conscripts who couldn't aim for shit tried to take them down with bolt-action rifle from out of range distance

>>3317739

WW2 era soldiers were generally were not well trained. They were mostly draftees that got pressed into service and then rushed to the front. Many of the techniques taught by modern militaries weren't even invented yet. For example, most WW2 era soldiers were taught to fire pistols one-handed, whereas two-handed firing is pretty much universally accepted now.

>>3317787
>>3317765
ah yeah the americans were pretty roughly trained on the beach, the canadians had a fair bit more training than you guys
>"Despite the failure to capture any of the final D-Day objectives, the assault on Juno is generally considered—alongside Utah—the most strategically successful of the D-Day landings.[155] Historians suggest a variety of reasons for this success. Mark Zuehlke notes that "the Canadians ended the day ahead of either the US or British divisions despite the facts that they landed last and that only the Americans at Omaha faced more difficulty winning a toehold on the sand", suggesting that the calibre of the training the 3rd Canadian Infantry Division had received beforehand explains their success."

>>3317765
I don't think he's on about basic training at all. He's right though, the troops earmarked for the D-day landings had sat in the UK for at the very least 6 months or so.

>>3317817
>sat in the UK for at the very least 6 months or so.
Doesn't mean they were trained.

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MG-42 gunners were real niggas
carried like 5 extra barrels
just mows down a nigga and drops him
like a fucking matrix movie or something
just aiming and dropping
imagine that shit
1,200 rounds/min
just dropping motherfuckers from his pill box
BRRRTTTT, dropped
BRRRRRTTT

>>3317831
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50th_(Northumbrian)_Infantry_Division#Training_and_Reinforcement this is just one of the divisions
http://51hd.co.uk/history/normandy another
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom)#History

It keeps happening

>>3317748
No, you can just barely make out the spray of water hitting the ground behind him, you can see where they missed twice before he falls.

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>>3316762
The way this guy jumps to fake being hit (probably to quietly lie on the beach while his comrades fight the battle) reminds me of these videos in which football players fake a fool

>>3317831
They were trained throughout that time.

>>3317787
>For example, most WW2 era soldiers were taught to fire pistols one-handed, whereas two-handed firing is pretty much universally accepted now.
Weren't they also taught to point at the target with their index finger to instinctively line up the shot, and then pull the trigger with their middle finger?

>>3318424
>No, you can just barely make out the spray of water hitting the ground behind him
A gunner next to the camera could have done the job. Most of the "famous" footages from WW1 are reenactments too.

>>3317787
>tfw you watch a contemporary WWII film and all the soldiers are stacking up on doors like SWAT teams and clearing rooms like special forces in Yemen

I hate Hollywood

>>3316821
>What is the Fatboy bomb

>>3317787
> soldiers were taught to fire pistols one-handed
it seems quite logical. How can you fire a pistol two-handed when one arm has been hit or injured? it is better to be trained that way then. This is war not a police intervention

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would it be more beneficial if the panzers were put near to the beach?
i heard Hitler didn't want that because he scared they would be rekt by naval bombardment

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>>3318465
Room Clearing sort of existed in WWII.

Late in the war.

Are these US soldiers? Is that a footage from omaha beach?

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>>3318771
though to be fair, most of it was
>"hosing down that building that we may have seen the enemy shoot from with an ungodly amount of ammunition."
Or
>Oh god he's somewhere behind that wall. Shoot through it.

>>3317780
I've come to recently begin to think that all battles are embelished somewhat. Probably don't look at all as described by historians.

>>3318771
they forgot to grenade the corridor

>>3318736
>injured soldiers keep firing at the enemy

You watched to many movies dude
Real life aint CoD

>>3318754
It was basically debated

http://www.historynet.com/field-marshall-erwin-rommels-defense-of-normandy-during-world-war-ii.htm ctrl+f "Defense of France"

>>3318775
I'm French but I feel bad for that German soldier
How can he even surrender if the enemy shoots at him without even having him on sight?
Sure he can yell but uneducated Americans don't understand German

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>>3316808
Explain what my Grandpa did from 1943-1946?
Explain why he has a combat medal from Europe?

>>3318771
>WWII Room Clearing is basically tossing grenades in every room and killing the survivors
What heights we have fallen.

>>3317831
The fuck do you think units do while they wait for operations? Play with their assholes? You think a soldier graduates basic, goes to his unit, plays with his dick for 9 months and then deploys? You don't think the unit spends any time training? Are you retarded, or just intentionally obtuse?

>>3317814
>Oh yeah eh, the training was great
>Oh yeah ignore the difficulties of Omaha beach, including the extra division there eh

>>3316762

None of these things are actual war footage. They just recreated the scenes days after the battle for news reals so parents could see it before the disney cartoons started playing at the local nickelodeon

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>>3318816
>The fuck do you think units do while they wait for operations?

Impregnate British housewives

>>3318817
my quote (which i forgot to link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach#Overall) implied that omaha beach faced the most difficulty, it's just that canadians and brits were more properly trained and practised in the normandy invasion landings than americans

>>3317787
That's because the 1 handed stance makes for a smaller target and they didn't have body armor. It's not that they weren't trained, it's just that their doctrine was different. The weaver stance (a 2 handed firing stance) was taught as the end all be all of pistol firing stances for decades, but now the accepted superior technique is the isosceles stance. Same goes for rifle stances and techniques, we just build upon the foundations of the generations before us and alongside technology available.

>>3318771

>squad A will breach through the living room wall!
>squad B will chillax on the grass behind the shed!

Loud and clear, Gunny!

>>3318808
>uneducated Americans don't understand German
Because your average kraut drone in the '40s had competent command of foreign languages, right?

>>3318861

Of course, everyone knows Germans just spoke English with a silly (sometimes Scottish) accent

>>3317635
There's naval artillery, and there's also the shitty logistical situation that the troops at the front faced. A mere week or two after the landings the 7th Army had no fuel stocks left, the Germans were unable to run a single supply train into Normandy across the Seine and Loire, daily munitions deliveries amounted to less than 15% of expenditures, 20% of the truck fleet was disabled by air attacks, breakdowns, and accidents, only 60% of fuel dispatched for the front in June actually reached it, and overall the supply situation was described as catastrophic.
Unless the Germans could teleport their supplies over and knew where the landings were going to be then it could just end up as a Falaise near the coasts.

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>>3318811
Prove you're real first. C'mon, I'll wait.

>>3318754
>>>3317606
Also the Germans knew they would not be able to control airspace over France during and right after the invasion.

>>3318804
The Germans used a system of rating soldiers similar to the one used by the U.S., using numbers and letters. The two do not match up exactly, but both used numbers to rate soldiers physical condition. '1' was highest rating, and '5' was lowest to the Germans. Most of Rommel's soldiers were rated '3' or '4'. Being completely deaf, blind in one eye, or having an artificial leg or arm, for example, got you rated '4'.

>>3318754
Rommel wanted a full division on the beaches but some other general in Paris (forgot his name) pitched a fit about tank division protocol and wanted the majority of the panzers inland to mount a counter offensive if a beachhead was secured.

They brought it to Hitler and he had the idiotic idea to work a compromise in which rommel didn't have enough to do anything helpful and most of the divisions further inland were too far away to assist.

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>>3317787
How good a military force is only as good as their NCOs, one of the biggest advantages the US Army had (and I'm sure Germany was on the same boat) was that they had a deep pool of combat experienced NCOs by the time 1944 rolled around. The Marine Corps was in even better shape around the time the war started since thy were doing police and punitive actions in the inter-war period, giving them experienced NCOs and Officers right off the bat. Compare this to Japan who lost most of their experienced officers and NCOs due to their retarded Bushido code among other things

Now Im not to sure what Russia's situation was, they seemed to prove that throwing more bodies than the enemy had ammo was a viable tactic if you have the numbers

>>3318825

>posting literal Nazi propaganda

The absolute state of you.

>>3316821
>haha fat americans amirite?

>>3317780
This. What they portray in Saving Private Ryan was very little like the real thing. It was much slower paced and less bloody in real life.

>>3317780
This. What they portray in Saving Private Ryan was very little like the real thing. It was much slower paced and less bloody in real life.

Any sources on these dday was not so bad meme?

>>3319986
Didn't you see the single webm that OP posted?

That pretty much refutes every single first hand account we have.

>>3320025
Narrow scope. Questionable authenticity

>>3319958
To add to that, the movie portrays all the carnage in one small area. In real life, it would have happened over a much wider area. The beach was much larger than what you see in the film.

>>3318808
Hang a white flag out the window?

>>3319986
Only Omaha was particularly bad, everyone else was fighting shitty static Ostbattalions that didn't want to be there anyway

>>3319900
Rundstedt was the other guy, who objected on the very reasonable grounds that they tried that exact plan at Salerno, and the armor got chewed up by naval gunfire.

>>3318754
It's complicated, on the one hand allied air superiority means your Panzers are going to get BTFO in anything but low light conditions, on the other your men manning the beach defences are 3rd rate conscripts with no real stake in Germany succeeding

>>3317780

i think its the special effects that got to the vets. the gore and use of amputees was hardcore.

>>3318838

>living room

that's the kitchen you idiot. living room/front of the house is top of the picture.

the AR section is covering the flank and watching the front of the house for anyone that makes a run for it.

>>3316762
>was so heavy soldiers couldn't run
Not really

The soldiers' equipments are around 50kg, military communicators' equipments are even heavier and yet all can run.