How badly did he fuck up? >solidified Germany's position

Konigsberg needs to be returned to Germany

>>3310193
Yeah, or at least become a joint Russo-German condominum and central station for Nordstream

>fifth partition when?

>>3310198
Have you ever heard of the Kaliningrad Question?

>>3310211
quick rundown?

>>3310189

>laid groundworks for the modern EU-aka German dominance
>Kaliningrad won't be German again sadly
>Oder-Neiße was a necessity too
>muh US-Vassal

Lock Birne fucked up the Economy and internal politics but he was actually a thrifty foreign politician that manouvered Germany in a position of strength.

>>3310189
He was realistic, and you aren't. No way in hell was Germany getting back any additional territory in 1991 (beyond East Germany). You really believe Germany could develop its own military and get Koningsberg back AFTER the whole shit they had to go through just to reunify? France, Russia and the UK would have never allowed it.

>>3310471
Gorbachev offered it.

>>3310471
This. And he actually found a way to further German Power in Europe with the EU. Its actually quite ironic how France and GB trying to subdue Germany fucked themselves in the ass.

>>3310513
France and GB were always against German reunification, so was the United States

>>3310189
>solidified Germany's position as American-NATO vassal

Thats just part of the pact after losing the war. weve been an american proxy ever since, especially since the wall fell.
And Kohl was a great diplomat and politician, we dont have his type anymore in our political spectrum.

>>3310528
Yeah no shit. But they allowed it to happen if Germany would subjugate its power and fully participate in the EU-project (including adopting the euro as currency). And Bush/the US supported reunification.

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>>3310568

>if Germany would subjugate its power and fully participate in the EU-project (including adopting the euro as currency)

Whick fucked France, GB and even the USA in the ass. See >>3310513

>>3310577
Yeah, which is why I responded to his post and not yours?

Yung Helmut Kohl is my rap name

>>3310193
>>3310211
there's no point. the soviets obliterated konigsberg and all the germans got killed or expelled there. there is no trace of german culture left so why the fuck bother?

>>3310216
The Soviets wanted to give Kaliningrad back to Germany at the reunification process, but the Germans refused because reuniting the BRD and the DDR would be costly enough. Also, the Soviet's FUBAR'd Kaliningrad to the point that there is nothing German left, not even the name.

>>3310193
Kaliningrad is Russian now and forever