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*Teleports behind you* *Proves socialism is inherently irrational*

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*Teleports behind you*

*Proves socialism is inherently irrational*

Heh, nothing personal kid
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>>3306645
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

*destroys confederate statues*
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>>3306645
*says inflation is good for economy*
Hey, iam totaly legit economist.
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>>3306645
>my spook is more coherent that your spook
Impressive
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>>3306645
>ahaha you base your worldview on FACTS?
>hahaha let me tell you about praexology
>hahah pure reason dudes, ZERO facts!
>hahah don't you know empiricism is for losers? Pure guesswork and juggling numbers is how to model the economy, not by "looking at it"!
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Where did he prove this?
Without all the superfluous academic language
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>>3308099
Ancaps are pro open borders
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>>3308119

He wrote an essay, "Road to Serfdom", where he sets out his opposition to Socialism. Being a gigantic hypocrite, he based his argument largely on historical facts, something he mocked other economists for using since he believed that only thru pure reason alone can economics be understood, and that worrying about "facts" is imbecilic and evildumb.
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>>3306775
did he ? i thought that every austrian economist was against inflation.
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>>3306645
Living is irrational.

Nothing you can gain in life is of any lasting or real value, you suffer from bouts of induced manic delusions, that make you achieve things that are, in the end, only to make you not think about your own absolute annihilation.

Nothing you can ever do in life will would make up for the fact that you don't kill yourself as soon as you read this, because until now you might have been ignorant, but now you know. If you actually think about this, rationally, you will kill yourself as soon as you stop being an utter irrational, immoral, hypocritical shitstain.

Now if there was a hell there would be a special one for economists, because they are the most fucking stupid, ignorant, hypocritical ideologues imaginable. Rational? Are you for real? And then you have economists writing papers on people being irrational as if its some kind of revelation! HALLELUJAH!

Now, you not only swallow shit all day long, you swallow, stale, regurgitated, irrational shit, all day long - straight from the main shitters torn and stretched out asshole, all day, every day, and you actually think that you are one rational piece of shit fucker, seeing the actual piece of shit for the smelly stain it is. You are not.

Oh and BTW, fuck you.
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>>3308933
as long as i feel more pleasure than its lack ,i can remain alive. we should not give up because of nonsense of life but accept it.

and rationality in economics is quite diffrent than elsewhere
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>>3306645
*Criticizes government power and authoritarianism*
*praises P*nochet*
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>>3309098
Better than those commies?
Of course. He endorsed a reform of the educational system and killed those several communist professors that were ruinning generations of academic potential.
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>>3308108
Hayek rejected praxeology, the basis of his economics is that human irrationality is countered by the signalling function of prices
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>>3309107
>authoritarianism is okay when it agrees with me and only kills people I don't like
Stalinists say the same thing, you know.
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>>3308985
Ignorant twerp.
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>Le Austrian School of Memeconomics
Not even laughter at this point
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>>3309493
>ruin a country for an entire century fucking up the lives of millions of people, generation by generation
>kill the protesters
Or
>not ruin a country
>kill protesters
Hmm...
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>>3309569
I guess mathematics is also not a science according to you.
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Is the Keynesian "Krugman doesn't represent us" anon in this thread yet?
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>>3309561
Intellectual lightweight
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>>3309608
It isn't you retard
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>>3309606
So you're saying that the ends justify the means and that murder committed by the state is okay if it makes life better for everyone else?
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>>3309652
It's simple.

Comparing a punch on the face and a backstab will get an obvious answer no matter how many strawmen you pull. Everyone can try to trivialized these matters, but it's so self-evident that it's almost comical how you try to avoid the comparison between the two.

Pinochet was better than the commies.
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>>3308460
Interesting. Is he wrong because he's a hypocrite, or is he wrong because he's wrong?
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>>3309662
/pol/tard far-righters are truly no different from the far-left
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>>3308933
>Nothing you can gain in life is of any lasting or real value
Plenty that you gain in life lasts as long as you live.
It only loses value after you die.

Living is totally rational.
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>>3309662
>Pinochet was better than the commies
Better than Stalinism, sure. But that's really only meaningful if there are no choices other than Pinochet or Stalinism.
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>>3309569
that mises quote is sound. there are others ways to affirm or deny systematically predicated propositions by means other than experience
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>>3309633

Right, so...

>>3306645
OP claims some random asshat "proves" that something is "irrational", implying general human behavior isn't, despite even economist acknowledging that it is, and some other asshat getting the nobel prize for that astounding breakthrough insight.

>>3308985
>As long as it feels alright, it's alright, just accept it's all irrational, hurr durr... OH! EXCEPT socialism, that's bad, you know, IRRATIONAL!

Clearly a mastermind logician at work here.
I really wish someone would gas all you fucking imbecile cunts. Or run you over with a truck or whatever. Anyway, fuck you.
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>>3309719
Just don't pretend that it is emperical or in touch with reality
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>>3309719
Mises Institute takes issues with praxeology.

https://mises.org/library/praxeology-methodology-austrian-economics

Which shows their integrity. They research, adapt, look for answers and correct past mistakes. Much better than the "spending spending spending" school of lel economics.
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>>3309748
>Much better than the "spending spending spending" school of lel economics.
Yeah, being better than a strawman is really something to be proud of.
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>>3309608
You don't know how maths work.
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>>3309608
>mathematics is also not a science
Holy shit, please tell me that you're only pretending to be retarded.

Mathematics is the study of the relationship between abstracts which are held as absolute truths. Science is the empirical observation and recreation of natural phenomena in ways that yield predictable results. They go hand in hand but they're their own distinct families of thought.
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He argues against central planning, he never really engages with socialism. Not that his arguments weren't answered. Also, sraffa destroyed him.
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>>3306645

The biggest problem with the Laissez Faire approach to economics is environmental damage. At the end of the day, if you don't have strict laws against pollution, corporations will run amok.
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>>3308880
Stimulate well, Shinzo
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>>3309938
Thanks for the info.
A summary over sraffa's counterpoint?
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>>3310023
Sraffa doesn't discuss hayek's refutal of "socialism", but rather hayek's own economic theories.
You can read the discussion here:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2223735?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2223821?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2223822?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
I hope you like banter.
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>>3309689
He's right, even the 3 or so socialist economists still around admit he was right. Mainstream economics admit he was right
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>>3309569
See
>>3309117
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>>3306645
> supports Pinochet
no thanks
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>>3309708
Except all socialist movements tend to go authoritary and supress the other parties if they aren't stopped.

They can avoid the obsolete socialist system yet their theft, complete destruction of the market and a similar outcome on education, will doom generation's future.

Pinochet was better than the alternatives. Nowadays the influence of such leftist methods that europe has used and got nothing but problems for them, will fuck up their economy and dependence of the national education and general poverty.

>>3309690
I'm not a poltard. I know what commie professors do on my country and how they ruin the youth's future and how are their methods when it comes to completely ignorant people.
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>>3310623
Pinochet is great
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>>3308880
Stimulate well Shinzo
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>>3308880
Stimulate well Shinzo
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>>3309738
i told you that irrationality in economics have diffrent meaning than in philosophy.
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>>3309949
The government is responsible for a lot of environmental damage. The free market is going to give us solutions for the protection of the environment not the government.
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>>3309644
>Mathematics is no Science
>Calls other retards
Pottery
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>>3308880
Not to sound like a weeb, but the correct romanization would be Shinzou.
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>>3308880
Stimulate well Shinzo
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>>3312370
As >>3309894 has so eloquently put it. It is not science.
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>>3312333
That's a bold prediction pal, im sure you put you money where your mouth is and have invested cash in it and that you are not just merely spouting the mythology of your economical spook.
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>>3312412
weeb
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>>3308880
"Stimulate well Shinzo"
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>>3312333
>The government is responsible for a lot of environmental damage.
That's almost entirely because of defense spending, and defense spending is just about the only thing about the government that right-wingers (aside from a tiny, irrelevant minority of libertarian hold-outs) want to make bigger, aside from maybe law enforcement spending and mass incarceration.

>The free market is going to give us solutions for the protection of the environment not the government.
The free market causes the entire planet to become a giant tragedy of the commons. Companies fixate on short-term margins and have little incentive to serve anyone but their shareholders.. Only governments have the large scale organization and capital-base necessary to coordinate such large-scale shifts in industrial output
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