>had an authoritarian government
>had a tyrannical leader
>had a nationalized army
How was the Confederacy any different from Socialist countries like the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? Was it a Socialist nation?
>>3302238
>No centrally planned economy
>How was it different from socialist countries
Also,
>Socialist countries like Nazi Germany
>>3302265
Who do you think plans the economy in authoritarian states like the Confederacy and Nazi Germany? Those were centrally planned. You had to follow in line just like in other Socialist countries.
>>3302269
>Means of production not owned by workers who operate them
>Socialist
>>3302272
>it wasn't REAL socialism
You commies are all the same. Come back when you have an argument.
>>3302273
It wasn't socialism at all,
Socialism - An economic model in which the means of production are owned by the workers who operate them
Confederate States did not have the industry controlled by it's workers ergo it is not socialism. There is no such thing as REAL/FAKE socialism, there is socialism and there is not socialism, Dixie was the latter.
>>3302283
>Soviet Union - means of production owned by the state
>North Korea - means of production owned by the state
>Nazi Germany - means of production owned by the state
>Confederacy - means of production owned by the state
It's all the same thing.
>>3302238
How was Jefferson Davis tyrannical?
>>3302238
>had an authoritarian government
>had a nationalized army
None of these things are socialistic
>tyrranical leader
Thats subjective
>>3302238
No they were a libertarian country.
>>3302287
None of those are socialist, then.
Also,
>>Nazi Germany - means of production owned by the state
No, The means of production were owned by oligarchs, in Nazi Germany, that is.
>>3302272
>>3302265
Indeed not true socialism at all
>>3302293
See. You are the "not real socialism" guy who can't admit communism has failed many times (the confederacy included).
>>3302303
But how exactly. AFAIK the CSA had a form of government that was based off the original US government.
>>3302307
He enslaved people through his tyrannical left wing government. How was slavery any different from the gulags and concentration camps?
>>3302294
Pic is true but you are not making sense at all
All the states you listed are abhorrent attempts at socialism that failed because the goal of socialism is inherently flawed and utopian, what socialists don't understand is that in their attempt to create a society in which the means of production are owned by workers they are going to always fail because of the human condition.
You think I am a socialist? No, I despise socialists I would happily shoot them for free but I am intellectually honest on my own moral principles, I accept that the UUSR, N Korea and any of the other failed "socialist" states are not socialism however they are still perfect examples of why socialism is a shit tier ideology, the fact that socialism fails every time you try to *establish* it is a criticism of Socialism in and of itself but that does not make the states socialist.
Also Communism =/= Socialism but it has the same problems
>>3302311
He didn't enslave them since they allready where slaves
>>3302316
Which is communism....
>>3302287
The ones with Marxist in power had the goal of the worker's owning the means of production. The Soviet Union and DPRK were socialist because of their ideology.
Nazi Germany and the Confederate States very much did NOT do this.
>>3302311
Because Slavery was just a business model (and privately owned) and wasn't just labor camps for prisoners by the state.
>>3302328
Communism isn't slavery, it's just retarded.
>>3302311
>How was slavery any different from the gulags and concentration camps?
The goal in gulags and KL was to isolate a category of people from society, it was about sequestration, labour was a bonus.
>>3302338
>Communism isn't slavery,
Maybe if you're a dirty commie.
>>3302287
hmmmm it is almost as if none of them are socialist
>>3302292
>endorses and practices race based slavery and subjugation
>libertarian
>>3302363
>>3302338
In fact, slavery is capitalism
>Confederacy
>country where the regional authorities had so much power that they restricted tax contributions to the war THEY declared and then would threaten to declare independence from the nation THEY formed to separate from the United States
>totally just like Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia
Hey guys, remember that one time Azerbaijan told the defenders at Stalingrad to fuck off and die by limiting their oil exports? Or that time Hamburg was like "yeah, Hitler, there's a war, but we're not letting you conscript more of our residents"
Oh, wait, that never happened.
>>3302376
indeed, but this is true socialism
>>3302303
t. moral universalist
Kill yourself
>>3302363
Nah, I buy niggers to pick my cotton because I'm a Capitalist and that's cost efficient
Communists just enslave everyone to the idea of equity and start fucking everything in the pursuit of it.
They're both shit, but different.
>>3302412
Is this image a proponent of socialism?
Because I'm looking at a bunch of failed states and crimes to justice.
>>3302443
Commies are trying to whitewash their dictatorial regimes.
>>3302443
They removed Chavez for..reasons
>>3302288
>imposed martial law
>barred freedom of the press
>unlawful conscription
the list goes on
The confederate national government could barely govern.
the army of the CSA was state militias just like the Union army.
>>3302481
AHAHAHAHAHA