Meet Heinz Guderian, the alpha general who had the balls to challenge

>>3300219

>Challenges Hilter
>Serves in Hitler's army

???????????

>>3300219
But during the july 20 plot he refused to help the plotters by sending his school tanks to arrest nazis

can we end the 'All Hitler's military decisions were terrible' meme, btw?

Hitler was a lot more aware on military matters than most realize, and many times made smarter choices than Manstein and Guderian. Take his plan to secure Kiev prior to an attack on Moscow. The eastern front would've collapsed sooner had they not.


I'm not even a Nazi, i'm a raging Tankie, but this 'lol hitler was le dumb idiot, would've won if he listened to guderian' shit is tiresome.

>trust me dude just let me rush moscow, it'll get us enough victory points to fire the bitter peace event
what did he mean by this?

>>3300229
> "i'm a raging Tankie"

ALL CREDIBILITY L O S T

>>3300230
>taking the biggest communications and railroad hub of the red army which lacked communications equipment and logistics is less important than 500.000 peasants with rifles and a few fast tractors with welded plates

>>3300223
https://www.quora.com/World-War-II-Why-did-Hitler-dislike-Heinz-Guderian/answer/Duc-Quyen

>>3300270
>no mention of (La)Keitel

>>3300229
After reading Guderian's book I remember him mentioning that Hitler had changed after the invasion of Russia. Definitely seems to have lost the plot in 1943 or thereabouts

>>3300229

what a shame hitler made exactly the wrong decisions when it counted the most (changing case blau, designating fortress towns, trying to control the army down to the battalion level).

It's all about Manstein and Model, the two people who saved Nazi Germany from collapsing four years earlier.

>>3300581
Care to elaborate on Model?