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How did they do it? How did this small island nation build the

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How did they do it?
How did this small island nation build the greatest empire world has ever seen, and build the modern world?
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>>3299563
By being more perfidious than anyone else
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>>3299563
They had Cornwall on their side.
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>>3299568
God I can smell garlic and frustration over here
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>>3299563
fuck the rest
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>>3299563
reminder that Constantine was first declared emperor in Britian
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>>3299563
>How did this small island nation build the greatest empire world has ever seen

They didn't
They did however build the largest (=/= greatest, "great" implies greatness) empire of the world by machine gunning backward people in Asia and Africa between 1830 and 1890 when the few countries more powerful than them (Russia, Prussia, France, Austria...) were too busy rivaling each others in Europe to care about other continents
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>>3299568
fpbp
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>>3299688
>French "Empire"
>lasted a few years
>British put an end to your larping and exile your manlet cuck emperor to a remote island
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>>3299699
A famous Roman Emperor once said:

"Better live one day as a lion than 100 years as a rat"
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>>3299710
True.
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>>3299568
>>3299693
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>>3299715
Yes, your symbol was the lion (inherited from the French Normans and Angevins that conquered you in the Middle Age), but your behavior was the one of a rat, opportunistcly preying on weaker and backward tribes
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>>3299732
>weaker and backwards tribes
I wouldn't go so far in describing French like that.
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>>3299741
Of course not, since that's not by defeating the French (or any other european power for what matters) that the British Empire was built
Pic related, in orange, the size of the British Empire the last time Britain fought France
Quite small, innit?
Every other addition to that empire (aka 80% of its final forms) was acquired by mowing down technologically backward non-whites in the mid to late 19th century
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A lot of French criticism of Britain here. Perhaps it helps soothe the pain they feel over the fact that Britain, a wet and windy archipelago inhabited by [apparently] semi-retarded subhumans, became far wealthier, more powerful and more important than they ever were, with Anglo-Saxon culture becoming the global norm.

We also hear a lot on this board about Britain's colonial legacy, yet strangely very little about the even more barbaric approach of the French in their African and Asian territories. Why is that? I guess massacring tribespeople for disobedience doesn't fit with the image of liberté, égalité et fraternité that they like to peddle, as they try and convince the world that Britain was unique in trying to grow wealthy off its colonies (as if there's any other reason to have one) whilst le français altruistically spread haute couture and liberty at gunpoint.

Silly me, I forgot they held a few European cities for a decade. How impressive.I await the mockery about how Britain should be ashamed of the fact they were allied with the Prussians when they captured France's greatest historical figure and shipped him off to die on the grey slopes of a South Atlantic volcano.

Guffaw!
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>>3299781
>mfw British obsession with France is so strong they assume anyone criticizing them on a flagless board is automatically French
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>>3299563
The Navigation Acts
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>>3299797
>frogposting
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>>3299699
French empire was far bigger than that and lasted far longer. Actually it's still the bigger nowadays.
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>>3299563
King Edward 1 tasked the shropshire knight Peter Corbet with the extermination of wolves in britian, the success of this task by 1290 lead to englands economic growth.

The mild weather caused by being on an island, lack of wolves led to an explosion of sheep numbers allowing the exportation of wool and the growth of coal mining to fuel this industry.
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>>3299781
The main cause is because Britain gets (And rightly so) a far better portrayal in Media.

I love how they go on about how our empire was irrelevant and shit, despite the fact all they seem to want to do is talk about it.

It's not just French though, it's largely continental Europeans.
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>>3299568
Froganon detected.
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>>3299862
But England was far behind until the 17th Century.
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>>3299797
>no one knows you're french on a flagless board
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>>3299781
False-flagging Frenchman detected
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>>3299797
The perfidious accusation is a pretty French accusation to be levied against the Brits desu senpai.
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>>3299563
It's actually kind of a big island desu
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>>3299688
>Spain
Inherited literally all that land

>France
Work of an Italian.

>Germany

The Third Reich was not nearly as impressive as people believe. The only impressive achievement was France, which was largely won due to a fluke encirclement due to Gamelin's incomptetance. Everything else they conquered was weak.

>Britain

Aside from the inherent racism of this image, it also ignores the inherent difficulties that come with controlling this amount of territory.


All this image tells me is Italians are great at conquering
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>>3299898
It's a quarter of the size of France. it's not even as big as Italy.

rather, it's jagged length makes it appear larger than it is.
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>>3299898
pour vous
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>>3299758
>since that's not by defeating the French (or any other european power for what matters) that the British Empire was built
not him, it was though. Colonial possessions were contested by the major European powers, Britain evidently had a whole roster of advantages, better navy, tech, diplomatic service etc. which meant that they would be first to the riches of the world.
>Quite small, innit?
yeah, France couldn't even beat that?
>Every other addition to that empire (aka 80% of its final forms) was acquired by mowing down technologically backward non-whites in the mid to late 19th century
Like the battle or waterloo?
Britain was decades ahead of France weather you like it or not.
>>3299797
it's clearly frogboos
>>3299781
kek
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>>3299898
Fuck off French frog
Stop trying to undermine our extraordinary and unrivaled achievements
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>>3299902
>controlling this amount of territory.
Britain did not really control the territory. The British "Empire" was a collection of glorified ports.
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>>3299902
>Work of an Italian.
Yeah, and Queen Elizabeth is Italian too because she's born in a place thas was Italian before.
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>>3299881
Frenchman detected
We've been number one since time immemorial
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>>3299881
behind in what respect?
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>muh french
Hasn't France invaded and controlled England like twice
The majority of your language derives from French
I'd say the frogs win this round
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>>3299919
She's actually German
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>>3299925
I have living relatives who remember a successful British invasion of France but yeah we're about 1000-2, how will we ever recover.
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>>3299563
>the greatest empire
Upon seeing british teeth the uncivilised natives stood still in morbid fascination, wondernment and apprehension; allowing british soldiers to aim and fire at their leisure.
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>>3299929
Are you talking about that time when America liberated France and Britain helped them a little (mostly by turning their island into an US base)?
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>>3299930
It's nice to be made fun of for a groundless stereotype rather than centuries of ignominious surrender, developing post-modernism and being quintessential faggots.
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>>3299929
>Last English King died in 1066
>literally every king since then has been a historical enemy (scots, germans, and frogs)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>3299918
>What was the Indian Mutiny
>What were the numerous Canadian and British revolts put down by the British

At it's peak, nearly 200,000 British Soldiers were stationed around the Empire.

>>3299919
Napoleon literally spoke italian, and was born into an italian family, retard.

Corsica wasn't part of France.

>>3299922
Not really, Britain was quite weak until the 18th century, largely due to the small population. Just history. I'm british myself.

>>3299928
By this logic, we're all ethiopians and Kenyans.
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>>3299942
British Empire troops made up 60% of the landings retard.
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>>3299942
Well that's a bit of a stretch, lady Britannia and two of her children. How relevant was France anyway, clearly not worthy of the big 3, what? like seventh?
>>3299947
by this logic I suppose we are all German anyway - owing to our Anglo-Saxon identity or is it ethiopian? or would the appropriate denonym be of what ever asteroid life rode in on?
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French here

I drink(in whisky veritas) a lot so i'll be truthful

French do not care about other nations, we literally think we're above all(some kind of superior civilized race as the Romans)
As for our supposed rivalry with the Germans or the English we did not know about it until we came on 4chan, the average French does not care about the Germans or the English in the slighest, we do hate Americans tho, and "being American" is seen as VERY BAD thing
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>>3300004
You try to come off as cool but it comes off as needy. England and Germany have overtaken you in GDP.


But I agree Americans are the worst though.

I often wish we'd all put aside our differences and unite in despising Americans.
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>>3300004
>we literally think we're above all
>God literally puts England above you
all bants aside I like frogs
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>>3299563
By being robbing niggers and employing the big dick foreign policy
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>>3299967
>Napoleon literally spoke italian
>what is education
As many nobles, he could speak the main European languages. His native language was Corsican.

>was born into an italian family
Italy didn't exist at that time, retard. His family was Corsican with Tuscan origins.

>Corsica wasn't part of France.
Part of France since 1768, retard. It belonged to Genoa before.
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>>3299563
Normans did that, Anglo-Saxons were going nowhere without them desu.
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>>3299947
>implying
What makes one british? The Queen speaks no german, her house comes from a country that no longer exists (hannover), speaks with an incredibly british accent, and across the country is considered an example of what an upper class British woman would behave, the Queen was born in bloody mayfair, so how in any way is she German? If we say that it doesn't matter whether you're considered british by britons, then we can argue that italies monarch were simply lombards, or argue that the kings of Romania were actually Austro-Hungarian.
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>>3299967
>By this logic, we're all ethiopians and Kenyans.
nobility is all about legacy doe
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>>3299593
He's right though, the British Empire wasn't made in a fit of absentmindedness
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>>3300090
Corsocan's an Italian dialect, and you've already proven he isn't french, either.

>>3300107
So then, all nobles are descended from the romans?

What even is your point? There were tons of french and spanish kings with foreign heritage.
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>>3300142
He's literally born in France.
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>>3300156
that's like saying people born in Ireland in the 19th century are english. They spoke a foreign language, practiced a foreign culture.

he actively worked in a campaign for Corsican independence alongside his father.

It's like if a member of the IRA became King.
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>>3299563
By having a sense of humor
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>>3300162
Uh yes, "it's like". Auvergnats speak a different language and have their own culture, but they're French. It's like that in every country you know.
Also you over interpret his interest for Paoli, who was just a model in his teen age, and Napoleon never ever advocated for the independence of Corsica (lol, the guy wanted to conquer the world).
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>>3300231
>Auvergnats speak a different language and have their own culture, but they're Frenc
Contradictory statement with arbitrary terns. You're just calling whatever you like 'French'
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>>3299563
One of the greatest countries of mankind, its power and scope on the globe has been quite a tale.
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>>3300328
Indeed
England is just below Germany, France and Spain when it comes to glorious history
Which is quite a feat!
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>>3299563
No one can match the sheer level of banter/not giving a shit about anyone else that emanates from an Englishman
>create your own church because lol fuck Rome
>fund numerous coalitions against France while having the best seat in the house to watch the comedy drama that ensues on the continent
>bombard Copenhagen for not having a sense of humour
>exile Nappy to a rock in the middle of nowhere and forever call him a manlet because that shit is hilarious
>gun down natives like its sport because it's funny
>drop Jews in the middle of Arabland for pure comedy gold
>even though you're allies, find a reason to sink the French fleet because it's fucking banter
>melt German civilians cause Hitler couldn't handle the bantz
>devise a plan at the end of the war to attack your allies because the party never ends
>oppress the Irish for eternity for the fun of it and shoot the ones that can't deal with the banter
>sail an entire fucking invasion fleet to a rock inhabited by penguins because the argies said you couldn't do it
>announce your final 'fuck you' as you leave the EU and once again watch the chaos ensue on the continent
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>>3300346
What?

They had more scientific achievements, better literature, vetter economic success.

What are you even trying to say?
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>>3300346
>germany
warmongering autists
>france
betavirgin rival of england who
loses in the end so becomes an ally eventually
>spain
a complete failure after the age of discovery

how can western yurop compete?
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>>3300349
You wrote all this to attack us, but we're proud of all of it.
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>>3300362
Kek, it's not an attack. I'm British and I love those things. You don't earn the largest empire in history without ambition, ruthlessness and a stellar sense of humour
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>>3300362
yuropoors are just salty about anglo achievements which they will never have the chance to experience

t. yank
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>>3299862
Longshanks mah nigga.
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>>3300376
>Haha, remember that time we almost conquered France, and just lost it all in 10 years
>Oh, how about that time we beat a bunch of retarded Africans by mowing them down with machine guns
>Oh, remember that time we beat a bunch of doped up Chinamen
#AngloAchievments

t.Yank
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>>3300361
>>germany
>warmongering autists
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>>3300392
you should be grateful that daddy had the mercy to leave us alone, they could've put all their resources to cuck us if they wanted to

t. yank you replied to
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>>3300398
>colonizing
>same as warmongering
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>>3300398
>he thinks non-Europeans have rights
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>>3300392
>Unironically bringing up the 100 years war as an attempt to shame England.

They fought a kingdom 5x their size, both in population and geography, and nearly won.
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>>3300403
Daddy didn't have a choice. Anglos can't best Franks
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>>3300392
>haha, remember that time we owned 13,700,000 square miles of land and ruled nearly a quarter of the world's population
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>>3300409
Yeah, and then once they nearly had everything, including a treaty that secured their victory, they lost it to the enormously outnumbered King of Bruges and his best friend, a little Girl and her imaginary friends.
#AngloAchievements
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>>3300412
>Fight an upstart colony, and a country 4x your population, and another 2x your population, as well as the Dutch Empire
>Hold out 5 years, and even gain territory in a negotiated peace
>hurr durr what a humiliation

>>3300376
It's nice to know our countries will always be friends.
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>>3300243
Yeah, Welsh are British, Andalusians are Spanish etc. Welcome on this planet seriously.
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>>3300403
>buying in the "we didnt want to win anyway lmao" meme

Britain lost that war because Spanish and French navies prevented them from sending reinforcements across the ocean
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>>3300421
Actually, they didn't lose all their territory until the 1450's. The French also still outnumbered the English in Joan of Arc's period. You know, around the time they burned her.
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>>3300416
Haha, remember when you willingly gave it away, and granted all your colonies the right to immigrate into your mainland?
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>>3300425
Welsh are British because they're part of the British isles. They're not English though. Equally, Corsica may have been part of the French Empire, but they were not French.
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>>3300431
>thinking poorfag countries like france and spain had a chance
no lol, they literally could've used all of their might to crush us, spain, and france, but it would've been a huge waste of money.
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>>3300436
Uh, yeah. Your point?

We're still 85% British. It hardly matters anyway, since we're not racist fucks.
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>>3300409
You're looking at it the wrong way
The HYW was a French family (Plantagenets) using England and its resources in an attempt to topple the ruling family of their homeland (France) and seize the throne dor themselves
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>>3299862
People think the Chinese are stupid with Mao killing those birds but it seems the same shit could've happened to us. Taking out something that plays a big part of the food chain could've had devastating effects for us like Mao's bird killing campaign
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>>3300449
The Plantaganets by this point spoke English, and were raised in England. People didn't have the same concept of nationality as we do now anyway.
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>>3300436
This doesn't nullify my point. And besides, it was somewhat more civilised than the French process of decolonisation
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>>3300448
>mentioning the word race on /his/
It's time to go back
>>>/pol/
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>>3300432
>...but, Calais
>...but our we held out Claim on the French Throne until the Act of Union
>...but the French that we ruled over outnumbered us
>Implying reminding us that you burnt a little girl to death at the stake because she outfoxed you makes anyone but you look bad
You sure showed us, England. No one burns little girls to death like you do!
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>>3300463
But my post is about as anti-pol as it gets?
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>>3300464
Actually, it was a lot mire than Calais. Bormandy, and Aquitane.

>The French we ruled over outnumbered us.
They weren't integrated into army levies.
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>>3300464
Kek, good to see the French are still butthurt over Joan. If you didn't react so badly it wouldn't be so funny
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>>3300448
>Still 85% British
>Implying the Browns aren't british
>Implying you aren't racist as fuck against Poles, because the Media doesn't care about white discrimination
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>>3300442
>British "might" in the late 18th century

Lmao
If they failed to defeat lone France while being allied to all Europe, I seriously doubt they could have defeated France + Spain while being alone
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>>3300481
>What is Levee en massé

French were able to match the coalition in numbers.
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>>3300460
>The Plantaganets by this point spoke English, and were raised in England

And yet the were so obsessed with their ancestral homeland that they started a century-long war and had Englishmen die in droves to take it back...
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>>3300488
Do you actually think that's what began the war? It was just aristocratic inheritance disputes.
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hearts of oak!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p94DFyBBwc
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>>3300464
>be kangdom of france
>your throne is about to be given to the direct male heir of his line, who is also the king of england
>be so butthurt you have to change your inheritance laws so a cousin gets the throne instead
>literally rebelling against the rightful, direct heir of france
How salty can France get?! Lmao
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>>3300488
>monarchs fought a war to expand their power and create a lasting dynasty

It's like you've never opened a history book before
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All these threads about how great is (was?) England
I guess they need to prove something after the Brexit
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>>3300499
Women cannot inherit Salic Land. Women cannot inherit the right to rule Salic Land. It's fucking written in the annals of the oldest French History.
>inb4 the French supported the Matrilineal right of Breton succession
Brittany is NOT Salic Land .
Perfidious fucking Anglos
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>>3300466
>saying "racist" on a politically neutral board
>'anti-pol'
if you want to be apolitical atleast refrain from saying anything that incites /pol/acks or encourages /leftypol/acks
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>>3300441
>Corsica may have been part of the French Empire, but they were not French.
That's mental gymnastic anon. Nationality is what it is, Napoleon was born in France, period, or esle Elizabeth is Londoner, NOT BRITISH.
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>>3300510
um... historical revisionist!
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>>3300527
Women's sons do not inherit their maternal Grandfather's lands or titles. If that were the case, Charlemagne's potential Byzantine grandsons would have a claim to the Frankrijk. Under Salic Law, land, and by extension rule of land, is passed directly from father to son.
A son inherits his FATHER's lands and titles, not his mother's, as his mother has no rights to any lands aside from those that explicitly accompany a dowry.
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>>3299758
A lot of British North America was conquered from the French. Parts of Africa were also former German colonies.
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>>3299563
Slaves. It's easy to get an economic leg up on your competitors if you don't have to pay your workforce.
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>>3300576
>A lot of British North America was conquered from the French.

Yeah but most of that was lost in the US Revolution, and thus not part of the British Empire at peak
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>>3299902
>The Third Reich
it also didn't last and they got BTFO hard
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>>3300090
>His native language was Corsican.
Corsican is like (though it isn't) a dialect of italian.
>Italy didn't exist at that time, retard.
Italy has existed since antiquity; Dante, Da Vinci, etc. are all italian, you ameritard.
>Part of France since 1768
>>3300156
>born in France
Corsica still isn't french.
>>3300231
>Auvergnats
Dumb comparison, there's absolutely nothing french about corsican culture, it's italian.
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>>3300722
>Corsica still isn't french.
Oh? What is it?
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>>3300766
Italian, just like Ticino and Québec isn't anglo either, ameritard.
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>>3300090
>Italy didn't exist at that time, retard. His family was Corsican with Tuscan origins.

Germans didn't exist until Germany united? You're a fucking retard dude. Italy has existed as a nation since the middle ages.
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>>3300788
>ameritard
Je suis français abruti.
You will never find a Corsican who claims being Italian. Corsica has next to zero link with Sardinia, imagine with continental italy...
No wonder why you fantasize about Napoleon's identity.
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>>3300820
>You will never find a Corsican who claims being Italian.
Je sais et c'est à cause de plusieurs siècles de lavage de cerveau.
>Corsica has next to zero link with Sardinia
????????
>No wonder why you fantasize about Napoleon's identity.
He spoke with a thick italian accent and couldn't even write french properly.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli#Pasquale_Paoli_and_Italian_irredentism

The "Babbu di a Patria" (Father of the fatherland), as was nicknamed Pasquale Paoli by the Corsican Italians, wrote in his Letters[14] the following appeal in 1768 against the French invaders:

We are Corsicans by birth and sentiment, but first of all we feel Italian by language, origins, customs, traditions; and Italians are all brothers and united in the face of history and in the face of God ... As Corsicans we wish to be neither slaves nor "rebels" and as Italians we have the right to deal as equals with the other Italian brothers ... Either we shall be free or we shall be nothing... Either we shall win or we shall die (against the French), weapons in hand ... The war against France is right and holy as the name of God is holy and right, and here on our mountains will appear for Italy the sun of liberty....

Pasquale Paoli wanted the Italian language to be the official language of his Corsican Republic. His Corsican Constitution of 1755 was in Italian and the short-lived university he founded in the city of Corte in 1765 used Italian.
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>>3299781
>this is the face of Anglo autism
Cringy and sad.
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>>3300843
t. anime poster
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>>3300853
>you send a british agent to larp as a pakistan nationalist
Huh?
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>>3300829
>lavage de cerveau
>Corse
lel

>>Corsica has next to zero link with Sardinia
>????????
They share nothing and hardly communicate. Despite being islanders they're mostly highlanders and not at all sailors.

>He spoke with a thick italian accent
Do you really think anyone spoke French without accent at this time? Landais, Creusois, Picards, Normands etc, even nowadays they have an accent.

Also thanks for this recap of Paoli's doctrine but it's hardly relevant and doesn't explain why Napoleon was somehow "not French" wtf...
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>Nobodys going to say it
Okay: Geopolitical advantage. Britian has a huge natural boarder, so after the norman invasion, Britian had a functioning natural boarder from other powers on the continent; the channel. Therefore, unlike continental Europe, Britian could develope much easier without fear of always present, always dangerous boarders and invading hordes and could therefore expand. The natural boarder, the channel also gave trading access to the north and east sea with the Hanse and the atlantic with France, Spain, Portugal and North Africa. Navy trade brings advancements in technology and surplus in money. Britian, being an island, has the ability to use the ship route way into its hinterland. Nations like Germany had a coastal line but such a massive non-connected hinterland, that trading inwards was much slower. This means that all regions develop fast and the countries economy grows faster (shipping via boat is still to this day, extremely advantageous to land shipping). Plus, a trade fleet needs to be secured, so naval defense is higher, making the natural boarder even safer. The reason, Germany got so utterly fucked after protestantism while Nordic countries and England could do it almost peacefully in comparison was, that they had no catholic power capable enough to invade them and they were far enough away from Rome to feel direct reprecussions on a local level. This own religion consolidated power to the British throne and furthered British sovereignty and the ability to grow.
Then with the discovery of the new world, the access to the atlantic became crucial. There is a reason, alls major colonial powers either had a direct or indirect connection to the atlantic, had a massive coastline and therefore had good sailors.
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GOD HAS ENDOWED THE BRITISH RACE WITH A WORLD WIDE EMPIRE
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>>3300510

I recall it was determined that those laws were a lot of bollocks
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>>3300409

nearly?

pretty sure we won
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Why does Napoleon's place of birth matter? Napoleon never thought oh himself as anything but French. All his battles were won with French soldiers. It's a pointless debate.
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How did THEY do it?
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>>3301291
It's one of those things that either side can exploit.
>Napoleon was a great French commander
>Aha, he was not French, but Corsican
or
>Napoleon was a horrible example of French Empiricism
>Honhon, he was not French, but Corsican
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>>3301316
I don't think anyone in France sees Napoleon's "empiricism" as something bad. I sure don't.
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OP here, I'm not even English, I'm a Serb, I just enjoy the butthurt English cause
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>and the fact foreigners shit on England in ENGLISH language
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>>3299563

Why do they keep talking about it as though it's something that still matters?
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>>3301482
Culturally England is highly relevant even today. And I can't believe that people on a board for HISTORY ignore English scholarship. How many of the history works you read were written by Englishmen?
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>>3301499
England is, empire is not.
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The word "FRENCH" was used 57 times in this thread
The word "ENGLISH'' was used 34 times in this thread
The word "GERMAN'' was used 18 times in this thread


Why are Anglos so obsessed with French ?
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>>3301733
>The word "ENGLISH'' was used 34 times in this thread
16*(without including England)
>The word "GERMAN'' was used 18 times in this thread
12*(without including Germany)
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>>3301733
inferiority complex
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>>3299563
Fuck off nigel we know it's you
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>>3300431
>Spanish and French navies prevented them
>Spanish and French navies

"Twenty-seven British ships of the line led by Admiral Lord Nelson aboard HMS Victory defeated thirty-three French and Spanish ships of the line under the French Admiral Villeneuve in the Atlantic Ocean"
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>>3301836

Has there ever been such a based frog remover?
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>>3301733
You realize most of that was used in discussing Napoleon's nationality?
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>>3300481
Britain gained territory in that war.
I wonder the Taliban will soon shitpost about defeating the whole world because the USSR and subsequent coalitions withdrew.
Surely they must be the greater civilization.
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>>3301312
Norman holdings were considerable more extensive than that.
Hardrada the most feared man in Europe, a mercenary fro the Kievan Rus' and veteran of the Varangian Guard with hundreds of ships and thousands of men had just invaded with the support of some in the North and the brother of the English king. The English won, ending the viking age.
The English soldier's wounds were still wet (literally) from defeating all of Scandinavia when they marched down to the Normans.
The Normans had begged the pope to sanction their invasion and had shilled is as a crusade (pointing to the fact the English hadn't accepted Gregorian reform and promoting the rumour that their king had reneged on an oath he made when in contact with a reliquary)
William, having secured a palium aroused the support of mercenaries and soldier from all over Christendom, so much so he had a better provisioned and larger army come the big battle (also they weren't exhausted)
It was basically half of Europe against half of the world's ninth largest island.
The fact it was as close as it was is profoundly auspicious.
Say what you will about the defeat, they didn't surrender.
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>>3302178
If they end up conquered the entire Europe like Revolutionary France did, sure
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>>3301836
Yeah, but that happened decades after the US had been lost
Meanwhile in the US Revolutionary War, Nelson was pure garbage and got his ass handed (hand that he lost) to him
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>>3301462
Because of America

>During the 17th century, French replaced Latin as the most important language of diplomacy and international relations (lingua franca) in the 17th century. It retained this role until approximately the middle of the 20th century, when it was replaced by English as the United States became the dominant global power following the Second World War.[60][61]

Even at its height, the British "Empire" couldnt make its own language relevant
To the point German diplomats had to use French to discuss with British ones in 1914
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>>3302200
>mfw Brits are so ashamed of having always fought on the most numerous side in every war they have to invent themselves an alternate reality in which they faced the whole Europe alone

The Norman invasion was the Kingdom of England vs the tiny Duchy of Normandy + some troops from the rest of the Kingdom said duchy belonged to (France)
Nothing more
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>>3300392
>t. American who claims to have a great-great-great-grandpa from every nation in Europe so that he can pretend to have a connection to all that's great about the West whilst simultaneously denying its various faults and attempting to mock Euros from the standpoint of a people whose culture is centred around spray-on-cheese, white guilt and confusion about having no history or sense of belonging
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>>3300891
>lel
?
>hardly communicate
I wonder why!
>Landais, Creusois, Picards, Normands etc, even nowadays they have an accent.
Their accents at the time were native of France, not the italian peninsula, like corsicans'. Terrible comparison. Again, Napoleone spoke with a thick italian accent and never even learned how to write french properly.
>it's hardly relevant
The father of the corsican fatherland's opinions are EXTREMELY relevant, désolé François.
>doesn't explain why Napoleon was somehow "not French" wtf
Would someone from Guernsey, with two british parents, named "Andrew Allen" at birth then later francized "André Alain" when the island became part of french territory and speaking french with a thick british accent really be "just another frenchman with one of the many french accents :)" just because he somehow managed to become a great commander of french armed forces? You're either delusional or lying to yourself.

Napoleone wasn't french and Corsica isn't french.
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>>3302227
> having always fought on the most numerous side in every war
> The exact numbers present at the battle are unknown; modern estimates are around 10,000 for William and about 7,000 for Harold.

William held more land in the North of France than the Godwins did in England.

>said duchy belonged to (France)
Charles the Simple: "please stop raping and killing us all"
Rollo: "Maybe... Give me all your money, all the land north of the Epte, Brittany, and your prettiest daughter"
Charles: "Then your people will stop all the pillage, recognize our religion, observe our customs and be loyal to my descendents?"
Rollo: "...maybe."
Charles the Simple: "Fantastic!"
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>>3302437
>Charles the Simple: "please stop raping and killing us all"
>Rollo: "Maybe... Give me all your money, all the land north of the Epte, Brittany, and your prettiest daughter"
>Charles: "Then your people will stop all the pillage, recognize our religion, observe our customs and be loyal to my descendents?"
>Rollo: "...maybe."
>Charles the Simple: "Fantastic!"

t. get his information on history through the fictional Vikings TV serie

Pic related is the battle after which Rollo was given Normandy
Hardly a conquest
The Normans got utterly crushed by the French
But the French king was clever and perfidious like an Englishman, and understood that these men could basically be free mercenaries for him
He gave them a shitty tiny swamp at the entrance of the Seine river and ordered them to defend it from other vikings
Result: This prevented any further viking raid on the river all the way to Paris, and this without Charles having to even deploy his own troops all the way to the coast in an era when logistics were a nightmare

Oh, and Rollo didnt marry the daughter of the king, this was invented by the TV serie
He married Poppa of Bayeux, the daughter of some local count
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>>3301291
>place of birth
That's not the issue, he could've been born in Paris or in Nord-Pas-de-Calais for all I care. He still spoke french with a thick italian accent and both of his parents were italian. I would consider him french and wouldn't be arguing, only if he had at least one french parent, didn't speak french with a foreign accent and also felt more french.
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>>3302480
>I would consider him french only if he didn't speak french with a foreign accent
Richard Lionheart didn't speak English at all, yet most people consider him as English

>and also felt more french
Napoleon felt pretty French actually, you can argue on many things but not this one
Dude betrayed Corsica for France, pillaged Italy to enrich Paris and tried to force French culture on conquered lands
"France" was even one of his four last words before death
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>>3302506
>Richard Lionheart didn't speak English at all, yet most people consider him as English
Because "most people" don't know that.
>Napoleon felt pretty French actually
I said "and also" not "or". He felt french because he wanted to, not because he was.
>betrayed Corsica for France, pillaged Italy to enrich Paris and tried to force French culture on conquered lands
Being a LARPing piece of shit doesn't change the fact that he wasn't french. Would you call Andrew Allen from my example >>3302435 french?
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>kill natives
>colour in watseland
>have the scottish invent everything for you
>lose to the fucking IRISH of all people
>become a shit, rainy, tiny america

4/10 could have done better.
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>>3302584
>have the scottish invent everything for you
What?
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>>3302593
A massive, massive chunk of huge "British" inventions which english people like to take credit for where invented by the Scots.

English "people" are a blight on the world. They're basically just fake-french. Thankfully everyone knows that they've not accomplished anything particularly incredible in the past 100 years so the anglo might finally be put to rest.
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>someone DARES to criticize your country on /his/
>immediately accuse everyone of being French because you're obsessed with them for some reason

Why are bongs on /his/ such fucking fairies? Not even krauts are this butthurt and they are the unofficial punching bag of /his/.
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>>3302627
It's brit/pol/ faggots waking up to the fact that they actually aren't half as important or cool as they thought.

Similar to the norsebabbies when /his/ first came to be, people don't HATE the bongs nor do they think their history isn't as fucking radical as any of their neighbours, but behaving like a faggot gets your country mocked on a board-wide basis until you remember your place.

Next in line after them will probably be the WW2 fags and then the Northern Irish larpers I'd bet.
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>>3302618
>the anglo might finally be put to rest
might's the key word, lad
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>>3300526
Not that anon but:
>Implying Londoner is a distinct nationality
This is a false equivalent because, at least during the time of Napoleon, Corsica did have a distinct nationality.
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They have the 1688 Dutch Inva.... Glorious Revolution to thank for that.
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>>3302627
>unofficial
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>>3302700
Why do people named "William" like invading England so much?
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>>3302618
Lowland Scots are literally Anglos.
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>>3302435
What a bunch of nonsense. You know nothing on the topic, please tell me you live in Asia or something, everything you say is pure fantasy.
Absolutely each of your points are absurdly wrong, where did you get these ideas, I'm curious? (Paoli "father of the corsican fatherland's opinions", kek)
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>>3302618
>scotland isn't anglo-saxon
>celts invented things
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>>3302470
They saw off one siege and gave the Normans incredibly favorable terms, you think the French wanted to forfeit lands immediately north of their capital?
Normandy is no swamp.
Gisela was not invented by the show Vikings.
Also the numbers of that wiki breakdown are absurd.
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>>3302214

sure diplomats spoke French, but the world didn't speak it on the scale that it does with English today, it's closer to a global language than any gone before
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>>3303038
>What a bunch of nonsense.
Not an argument.
>You know nothing on the topic
no u
>please tell me you live in Asia or something, everything you say is pure fantasy
The fantasy is Corsica and italian accents being french, pauvre con.
>Absolutely each of your points are absurdly wrong
Not an argument.
>kek
So it's a fake quote?
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>>3303110
Gisela is an invention of Norman historians. Either that or she was an illegitimate daughter of the emperor.
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>>3299840
what am i looking at?
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>>3303287
EEZ
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>this corsican edgelord
cocu
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>>3302618
THE ENGLISH DIDN'T INVENT ANYTHING
THEY WEREN'T A MAJOR POWER
THEY JUST STOLE KNOWLEDGE FROM THE CONTINENT
ISAAC NEWTON WAS PROBABLY A FRENCH JEW OR SOMETHING IDK
BRITS WERE BEHIND
THEY'RE BASICALLY FRENCH BITCHES BECAUSE NORMANS INVADED A THOUSAND YEARS AGO
NONE OF THERE KINGS ARE ENGLISH BECAUSE APPARENTLY NO ONE IS
JUST LET ME TRY ON BERETS WITH MY BOYFRIEND IN PEACE
REEEE
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>>3303311
ta gueule, sale pinzutu
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>>3303120
Indeed
French was the international language, but only each nation's elites would master it
Common people usually couldnt speak several languages
It only became a thing when America invented mass media (pop music, hollywood and later the internet) after WW2 and spread them across the globe
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>>3303263
>So it's a fake quote?
A quote by Talamoni by chance? It's a tittle given to Paoli by Paoli himself. Paoli is, to say the least, a controversial model even among the most hardcore nationalists. He's a respected figure but certainly not a consensus, he's like, say, Thomas Paine in the US, a good boy but that's it.
Your analysis on Corsican identity, Napoleon's identity or French identity is way too much superficial, cliches aren't facts.
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>>3303407
>en français
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>>3299563


But that's not cricket.
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>>3303547
If you're going to accuse others of being clueless, don't vomit such an embarrassing post.
>analysis
Corsica = italiana
Napoleone = italiano

It's not an analysis, I'm just stating facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AD2uhf7cw

>>3303594
Tu préfères en corse ou en italien?
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>>3303680
neither are your first language so who cares, cocu
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>>3303693
>neither are your first language
Tu te trompes, pinzutu.
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>>3303701
I think that's enough larping for today, jean rital fettuccine
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>>3303732
>haha fuck corsicans and their shitty island haha, fucking spaghetti cucks haha....w-wait they're french though! I love Napoléon! sh-shut up!
Pinzutu de merde que tu es.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xrhUnpOEOU
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>>3303680
My gawd... Now I wonder: were the Incas superior to Napoleon?
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>>3300464
france is too big and diverse in population to be properly unified, and that's always been the case
that's why french qt's spread their legs for anglo cock during the napoleonic wars, and half of 'france' sided with the anglos in nearly every war between the two
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>>3303770
nobody is shitting on Corsica, cocu, I just enjoy laughing at LARPy edgelords like you
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>>3303820
Continue de rigoler, pinzutu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh3EAeC4rfs
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>>3303820
>>3303732
Actually the best would be to wait that Paris and the Parisian region collapse, then break up(not just Corsica), then to remove sandniggers on a local level, to finally reunite.

The ruin of Paris would be a good way to restart on sane basis(decentralization, protection of local cultures, and so on)
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>>3303807
>pic
>inb4 Alsace is not French
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corsica je italia
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>>3299563
Conquering tribals is no achievement
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>>3299563
>t. Anglo

Biggest does not equal greatest.
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>>3304009

monarchy is such an old foible, it should end already, really, it is an absurd pretense to keep with going forward as a democratic nation
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>>3304031
uh... okay
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Whenever a Brit tries to mock the French, I just remember that their language disappeared a thousand years ago and is now replaced by what was left of it once it absorbed so much French that 60% of its vocab is now of Latin origin.
Then I read what's written on their passports, and remember that Iunderstand it. But they have no idea of what it means. Because it's my language, there.

And I think that's beautiful.
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>>3300142
>So then, all nobles are descended from the romans?
what the fuck are you even trying to say here

nobility is about legacy and lineage, this is true even if European nobility is fairly interbred, which it really wasn't in the 11th century, saying hurr wur all descended from single celled organism durr so much for your argument it was just defeated by my retarded relativity is stupid
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>>3304043
This is the most needy post in this thread
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>>3300499
>england calling other countries out on changing their inheritance laws to suit their mood
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>>3304078

tit for tat mon ami

I'd say they reaped the whirlwind for their duplicity, nearly a hundred years of getting their can kicked on their own soil ought to have sobered them
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>>3304085
Very impressive, but in the end, the King of England and France lost to King of Bourges. Whose right and whose God won out in the end, my friend?
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>be Portugal
>form alliance with England
>become best buddies
>some centuries later
>alliance still respected and honoured
>try linking your African possessions together
>drunken English diplomat rolls up
>screams in your face that if you so much as touch that uncolonised land the entire British Empire will shit molten fury down your throat
>back away for the sake of your people's safety
>extremely hurt and confused that your best friend would humiliate you in such a manner
>public overthrow your monarchy in anger over losing territory to a glorified railway station that never gets built
>tfw you realised all too late that you were friends with "that kid"
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>>3304134
*blocks your path*
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>>3299568
As a brit, I comfortably live up to my national trait.
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>>3302470
Normandy is no swamp. It was one of the richest regions of france in the medieval period, whith Rouen one of the largest towns in Europe.
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>>3303902
>reunite
There's nothing to reunite.

Occitània should become a thing again with the language fully revived and become a country, same for Breizh along with Euskadi (and Catalunya too). As for Corsica, it should officially become italian land. That's it, no need to destroy France with "race war" and "reunite", you dumb /pol/turd.
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>>3304590
actually, something like pic related would be even better.

Oh and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Portugal
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>>3304631
inb4 franco-spanish tears
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>>3301460
Nice funnyjunk image, OP
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>>3304590
So everyone is independant, but Corsica is Italian? That's some nice autism, believe me they won't like it.
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>>3304305
What the French king gave them in 911 was basically a tiny swamp at the entrance of the Seine river
It later grew larger and richer (especially under Angevin domination)
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>>3304631
>bracelona
these one?
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>>3304674
>So everyone is independant, but Corsica is Italian?
Yes because Corsica IS italian and has been so since the roman conquest and the subsequent massive migrations from the italian peninsula to the island that occured since antiquity. The roots of the language, culture and people are all to be found in the peninsula. Occitània+Catalunya would be a beautiful thing, Breizh can still have a chance to be as distinct from France as Ireland is to England, as for Euskadi, well it's obvious. Corsica is different, so there's no unfairness and if corsicans could speak the lingua nustrale, they wouldn't try as hard to pretend they aren't italian, they'd actually embrace it, while praising the Babbu di a Patria, i.e. Pasquale Paoli, who fully aknowledged that his people is italian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3OZCXyrbTY

>>3304707
The image is shit, just look at the map.
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>>3302200
It's true that the English were fighting on two front, but it'd be a mistake to think that they were badly outnumbered. Harold's loss at Hastings was essentially due to poor planning and underestimating his enemy's strength. He disbanded his army a few months prior and basically had to make due with what he found lying on the side of the road as he was moving south.
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>>3304009
I wonder if archivists could follow the godwinson line to today and see who the rightful king is. Just for banter.
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>>3304725
>if corsicans could speak the lingua nustrale, they wouldn't try as hard to pretend they aren't italian
So basically you would force them to be Italian against their will? Man, they get the gun for less than that.
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>>3304821
No, I want them to speak corsican as a native language so that they will naturally embrace Italy.
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>>3304848
t. Duce
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>>3304913
No, that piece of shit embraced the g*rms and ruined everything. Fascism will also never work, like communism.
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>>3304933
But you still draw maps in your mind, out of pure autism.
>>3304631
>muh langue d'oc
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Daily Reminder: Napoleon had an empire of kings and the brits had an empire of Abos
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>>3300722
??? Are you retarded? Italy as a unified state has not existed since the 19th century. Ask Dante, da Vinci what nationality they are and they would say Florentine, Venetian, Genoan, Milanese, etc. Go back further and you would hear Roman, Gaulic, etc. The idea of a unified "italian" language and Corsican being a dialect is also a modern construction.
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>>3305000
>Are you retarded?
Are you? The demonym "italian" isn't a 19th century invention. Dante and Da Vinci were italian and they knew it.
>The idea of a unified "italian" language
Do you have down syndrome?
>Corsican being a dialect
I explicitly said "like (though it isn't)" >>3300722

Do you speak italian? I do, natively, and corsican is the italic language I find the easiest to understand, really makes me think.
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>>3305000
He's the cousin of Incatard, don't worry.
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>>3305075
t. "Pasquale Paoli is french"
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>>3302416
ow you got me right in the fee fees
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>>3303331
>Industrialization of U.K in 1900 = 100
so the units are relative, but as a measure of what?
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>>3299563
Simple.

They didn't
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>>3299563
Living in Britain is like playing the game on easy mode, they killed all the dangerous natural predators a long time ago and the weather and land is great for farming, though the weather is sort of awful in Scotland
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>>3299688
you forget that Spain/Germany had the entire Americas to themselves under Charles V
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>>3299947
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>>3300499
Says the dude who's king started his own version of christianity just so he could get a divorce
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>>3299563
Without all the saltiness.

>Insular nation, relying on a strong Navy.
>Shitty weather and a religious unrest for 200 years making people want to be anywhere the fuck else.
>Nobody anywhere the fuck else happens to have bronze cannons or immunity to smallpox and sarcasm.
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>>3304652
>franco-spanish tears


Do it

we want nothing more than throw away these leftist shitholes
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>>3299563
>Is an island, needs good navy by necessity
>Spared political instability (with few exceptions) of European continent, begins colonization
>Rebounds from American Revolution
>Destroys Napoleonic navy at Trafalgar
>Britannia Rules the Waves

the rest is history
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>>3309536
>>Spared political instability

You're joking, right? Please tell me you're just another troll, so I can keep my faith in humanity.
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>>3309548
Why would he be? By being disconnected from continental Europe, Britain managed to pretty much avoid the worst that the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries managed to throw at Europe. It never had to give any real consideration to the Habsburg Roman Empjre, the Protestant Reformation's influence peaked with the establishment of the Church of England, the Thirty Years War were completely ducked, and when revolution finally did come, they outright invited it rather than tolerate having a Catholic king on the throne. And then with the annexation of Scotland, they never had to worry about anyone meaningfully threatening the Home Isles again, which meant that when the Seven Years War came, it alone - along with continental support from Portugal and Brandenburg-Prussia - were all that was needed for England to crush all of Europe under their heels.
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>>3299781
FROGS BTFO
R
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B
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Go get a bath Frenchies, you fucking stink.
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I don't think any European truly can love his country as much as I love England.

In all its faults, it's great, it's grand, and it's mine.
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>>3299563

>muh tiny island
>actually best geographical position you could wish for

>hahaha Frogos are weak
>Germans are warmongering autists

>when GB first participated in a big boy war against Germany it drove them to the brink, the second time they ended up as a slightly more Independent US-Vasall

>actually stirs shit and always tries to influence continental power balance -muh others are the warmongers
>Anglos today:
>GB not even able to lead a coherent Negotiation in the Brexit talks
>despite framing it as an act of strength they now whine when the EU actually uses its strength in the negotiation

>USA
>en route to gamble away global hegemony
>heeeey lets elect a meme president making that process even faster
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Britain had a pretty unique empire; without a need for an army and RNG'ing pretty hard on coal/iron deposits for the industrial revolution gave them a pretty good 100 year run. It's a shame that Britain as we know it will be gone in 25 years; although I guess it has always been the destiny of the anglo to have foreign invaders plant their seed in Anglo women.
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>>3309705
>>3309548

every nation had 'political instability'. the UK was unique in that any war it joined never had a foreign army on its land, which allowed it to prosper. Even though the French/Austrian/Russians all had more powerful armies and empires, having your shit looted and burned down every time there's a war was a major drawback to being a continental power. In the wars the UK lost, they never had an enemy army loot their countryside. This is the primary reason they were able to become financially dominant.
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>>3299710
>Mussoli
>Roman Emperor
You know, I'm not even mad.
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>>3310702
this is an embarrassing post
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>>3311130

yes, it stinks of the yank, you never know though, a great many foreigners have grown indistinguishable from them
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>>3311146
stop, this is cringey.
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>>3299563
>greatest empire
Nah
>build the modern world
>
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>>3311195

I understand that education is not what it once was in the world, and, so many petulant nations wish to deride our accomplishments to engender in themselves some slight hope of self respect, but, that is a sham. The truth is thus: from the 19th century on to the 20th, Britain led the globe in industrial and scientific innovation. From the great machines that powered our changing world, to the secrets of the atoms!

This knowledge, power, and progress was brought to the far corners of the earth, leading to a transformation in the quality of life for man as had never been seen before, and was not supplanted until this computer linked age in which we now find ourselves.
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>>3300142
>So then, all nobles are descended from the romans?
No. What are you talking about?
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Serious Answer: A mixture of luck and sound cultural decisions which have gone on to become the norm.

>Science
Starting with the renaissance, Europe started accepting that they didn't know everything, that they weren't the best at everything and that , but that things could improve

>Sound fiscal planning
England and the Netherlands especially form a highly credible line of credit. By using the assumption of future profits to fund an increase in production, they made themselves highly bankable. The Spanish and French were slow in this lesson and paid the price

>Bank of England
The UK centralised its finances to a very high degree and effectively lent themselves money, to build a fleet, to crush the french. They then made sure to pay themselves back their debts with good rates of interest. YES this is simplified, but banking is weird

>Sea Power
We all know this one

Britain's time in the sun lasted while it uniquely held all these aspects, once other nations adopted all these cultural ideas, its supremacy was bound to end.

I mean look at Germany; 150 million people, central landmass, decent natural resources. Once they adopted free-market capitalism and secular science, they were clearly going to do well.
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>>3299928
>Cromwell
>loser
He was the best Englishman of the last 400 years
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>>3311479

he was our lad, shame he went a bit far in the end though
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>>3299797
>/his/ literally makes like 50 Napoleon threads a day and an equal amount of Anglo-hate threads
>WHY ARE PEOPLE ASSUMING I'M FRENCH??? :'(

Fuck off Pierre you smelly bastard, haven't you got a German to kneel for?
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>>3299781
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>>3299797
French is a state of mind, Pierre.
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>>3311528
>only French people love Napoleon and hate Anglos

Sounds like you never visited /int/
Also, most anti-German threads are made by Brits (visiting flagboards would also teach you that)
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>>3301733
The word "FRENCH" was used 116 times in this thread ! 116 times !
The word "ENGLISH'' was used 36 times in this thread !

OBSESSED
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>>3311742
ctrl+f "corsica": 55 results
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>>3311208
>the secrets of the atoms
>Heisenberg
>Schrödinger
>Born
>Pauli
>Dirac
>What is Göttingen?
Also you write like a queer.
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>>3312080

Ah yes, I forget, this is the future, and if you care to take time for proper grammar then the rude convention is that you're some kind of fruit. Presumably. I like to think I'm simply bearing witness to a proper education, and the airs of my own upbringing. Still, you can think what you like of course.
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