Is there any hope of saving China and it's people from decades

China needs free market capitalism.

>>3294477
Gas them, gas them all.

Theoretically there is nothing wrong with a massive surveillance state. Mandatory dna collection of all citizens, GPS tracking of all citizens via smartphone, and HD cameras ever 30 feet would cause a massive drop in violent crime.

Make it nigh impossible to get away with a murder or an assault. Can't see anything wrong with it personally. too many babbies read Orwell these days in middle school and consider a proper surveillance state to necessarily be the worst thing in the world.

>>3294477
Socialism with chinese characteristics

>>3294520

Just move to North Korea you will love it.

>>3294541
>surveillance and prevention of violent crimes necessarily means surveillance and prevention of political crimes
Leave the clichéd mind prison you were stuff into as a teenager plz

>>3294520
the state can be immoral too

There's over a billion of them, you can't brainwash them all. Stuff can and does leak though.

>>3294520
> decides one day that he disagrees with something the government did
> mysterious boost in taxes
> strangely harder to get a job now
> "huh, that's odd. It appears not all of your passport paperwork was fully completed"

>>3294564
Why the hell has a revolution not taken place yet?

>>3294477
>How could someone be totally okay with a government monitored internet and police state?
by actually being aware of it, but having more important shit to worry about
compare to amerifats, who don't go a fucking day without lauding their freedumbz, all the while having a genuine fucking police state, criminally corrupt prison system that does all in its power to ensure all of its inmates end up right back in, and most extensive and sophisticated surveillance apparatus on the fucking planet - that actually monitor entire fucking planet to boot

don't you find that bizarre?

>>3294580
because something like half of china are rural peasants who don't know what the fuck its going on in the rest of the world

>>3294581
I do find it bizarre as well
>Canadian

>>3294588
Are there any organizations trying to fix this like the people who fly balloons over the DMZ?
> inb4 underground church which I'm too much of a wuss to join

>>3294552

Move to North Korea, you'll love it.

>>3294571
>the possibility of abuse means it MUST be abused

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>>3294477
Is there any hope of saving America and it's people from decades of brainwashing?

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Japan has some ideas

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>>3294477
>Is there any hope of saving China
Maybe you should save your own country first, gweilo? And stop propagating your degeneration all over the wolrd.

>>3294477
They are okay with it because that same state has dramatically increased China's economic power.

They went from less than a trillion dollar GDP in 1995 to over 10 trillion in 2015.

>>3294669
It's sad that there is a very real chance that tattoo is real

>>3294520
Your logic isn't flawed, you're just not considering the angles. You're imagining everything in the hands of people with good intentions. Your system does not hold up when you imagine someone with bad intentions.

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>>3294477
No, they get used to that and even like it. just like the american like their "freedum".

>>3294520
They can't even stop their escalators from eating people

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>>3294695
this.

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>>3294695
>that fucking picture
I'm a west slav, so I'm still kinda shielded from this shit, but holy fuck this is an actual fucking living nightmare.
When will it stop?

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>>3294477
Is there any hope of saving Westerners from feeding their 2 year-old toddlers estrogen and castration while adopted by fluid genders fags? How could someone be totally okay with a government promoted inhumane degeneracy and mental/sexual illness? Even brainwashing their own children with it? What kind of disgusting subhuman they are?

>>3294695
fucking cumskins deserve it

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>>3294758
As you as well brotha

There is a healthy Chinese population on the island of Taiwan, as is the legal government of China.
The rebelling province of the mainland will one day be thrown to the bin of history and the KMT will return to the mainland and Chinese will take over the world.

That is the sad fact, because Han-Chinese have always destroyed other cultures and nationalities from their way, ever since the first dynasty. If that is to happen, at least let it be Republicans instead of the Reds.

>>3294804
this level of delusion should be causing integer overflow

>>3294786
fucking niggers

>>3294581
Please explain to me how America is a genuine police state

>>3294804
>Get BTFO
>Whine about losing for 70 years
Is Taiwan the Germany of the Orient?

>>3294812
>Ten (10) yuan's have been deposited to you by the CCP
'Government' with a several recorded genocides on their hands will never hold to the power for more than century.

And nothing else need to happen than the bursting of the housing bubble, which is inevitable; your Monopoly money will be useless after that.

>>3294695
your welcome, love, the kikes

>>3294701
your welcome, love, bill, hillary and the entire psychotic babyboom generation

>>3294829
Remember the time Chiang killed hundreds of thousands of people by blowing those dams up? Guess it's OK though because at least he wasn't a communist

>>3294695
>Come up with stupid shit
>Claim it's a universal value
Why do white people do this?

>>3294838
>Spreading Maoist propaganda 101
>A yuan deposited
Never forget that the Communist party have literally millions of paid trolls writing to the Western forums, boards and social media.

>>3294848
They want to sell their dying print media so they need to be overtly controversial
>>3294852
>Denying historical fact
They really did a number on you cunts didn't they? Gee only a decade before Chiang arrived you were called Formosa and singing the praises of Imperial Japan so it's no surprise, Taiwan is a fucking joke

>>3294829
I'm not a chink, fool.
You are will always be an insignificant little shit compared to them, whether they are governed by commies (who aren't even commies at this fucking point) or space aliens is of no consequence.
There will be no triumphant return of "rightful heirs" to mainland, fucking forget it.

>>3294477

Such a huge country with such a huge population of hundreds of ethnicities needs strict top-down governance to stay stable internally

The average Chinese is still as grumpy about politics as the average westerner

Besides, we in the West are moving ever closer to Chinese standards of cencorship, but instead of talking about national unity and stability, we are talking about feelings and inclusion

Time will show what is most effective in the digital age

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>>3294540
This

>>3294695
>>3294727
>>3294848
Why do people get so triggered by this?
Most of these are just stories about something, like people no longer wanting children or if babies differentiate based on race.

Especially the one with the transgender kid. How can you hate those people and that kid so much if you know nothing about it? That child is able to talk and express "it's" own opinion and clearly said that he feels like a girl and you just tell him to shut the fuck up.
It seems more fucked up to me to completely ignore what the kid says and force it to adhere to certain rules by society just because it triggers some people from around the world. It's also a very rare and special case, people get so mad about it that they pretend that this now applies to every child and that someone wants to force children to be this way. You are just as emotional as the leftists.

>>3295028
Because it's immoral, you think TIME magizine gives a shit about any of this? No they just want to sell their magazine, they don't care about gays or coons or immigrants, it's honestly more honest to just be a member of the KKK, at least they're honest

>>3294477
Not /his/

>>3295028
>That child is able to talk and express "it's" own opinion and clearly said that he feels like a girl and you just tell him to shut the fuck up.

Just like we tell him to shut the fuck up when it wants to try heroin, fuck strangers and drink booze while driving under influence and getting a blowjob from AIDS-ridden hooker.
He's fucking 12. He doesn't have a fucking clue what's it gonna do to his life and he doesn't care one bit on top of it.

If I were able to "express" myself at that age, I would be most likely fucking dead by now.

>>3294820
the fact that it has the capability and you dont know whether they'd abuse it

Is there any hope of saving U.S.A. and it's people from decades of brainwashing? How could someone be totally okay with a government monitored internet and police state?

>>3295062
Did you watch the interview?
It baffles me how willingly you take away the rights of someone and completely ignore anything they say just based on their age. 12 year olds aren't retarded, my niece is 9 and she has some very clear opinions. They need guidance but not total control. Your argument could be applied to everything and be used to take away any kind of right people have.

It's not like that kid had the idea for a week and then the parents start the treatment right away. He felt that way for years and puberty would change his body forever anyway, them starting early stops that and now he looks like a real girl, better than some fucked up freak with a deep voice in a skirt.

>>3294819
Hi /pol/

>>3295028
If "he" express "his" own opinion and clearly said he feels like an attack helicopter, should I "indulge" him and write it on his passport, ID cards and legalized it as well?

>>3294820
Patriot Act

>>3295113
>my niece is 9 and she has some very clear opinions
No she doesn't, she has ideals that haven't been tempered or challenged. Why not just give a fucking phoetus a vote while you're at it?

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>>3294786
>"I'm tranny"
>"I met my husband in prison"
>"congrats"
>This is da "nu-normal" in western countries
So progressive....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>3295127
Very nice argument. I see you clearly care deeply about this complicated issue.

>>3295028
Because white people are never content keeping to themselves and insist on exporting their cancerous values to the rest of the world.

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>>3295113
>better than some fucked up freak
it's already gonna be one, unless they drop a literal million on cosmetic surgeries and even then it's gonna be an infertile imitation of a woman with bizarre (hairy inside) canal instead of actual pussy, that will have a good chance to develop crippling mental illness and end up killing himself in his 20's, but I guess you will just go lalalala about that that

The CCP is more in line with its citizens' wishes than the US govt is. People in Western countries have bad experience with nationalism so they think everyone else has to be brainwashed to love their country. Loving their country and culture comes natural to Chinese who see their country rise from the ashes of imperialism and communism.

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>>3294804
>There is a healthy Chinese population on the island of Taiwan
Anon I......

>>3295151
Maybe if you would spend less time on /pol/ you would see that the world is not black and white and not everyone that says something you don't like is from tumbler or something like that.
Some of us are just interested in a discussion.

I'm well aware how fucked up those "vaginas" are, but it does not solve the problem that this child does not feel like a boy and that puberty would make him look like a boy. Ideally that child would be healthy and identify with the biological gender or at least have a nice little, soft limp dick with some cute natural tits and do some quality porn.

You completely focus on the ideology behind it and the political movements, ignoring the individual.

>>3294477
>How could someone be totally okay with a government monitored internet and police state?
Because the alternative is civil war. Trust me when i say this, you don't want to see a modern Chinese civil war.

>>3294724

Then you shouldn't have to worry about their surveillance being all that good.

>>3294520
Ok I see where you're coming from, but China is not the best example for creating a Minority Report state.

>>3295253
How much am I required to support someone in their delusion? (In Canada you are legally obliged to.) In the West, we already sit back and let people maim themselves into oblivion all the time. This movement is pushing beyond that and is demanding acceptance. If this movement succeeds and everyone is forced to play pretend time then things will magically get better for that person? I'm not convinced. I don't think institutionalizing them is necessarily the right course either. But I think being honest and acknowledging that it's a mental illness called body dysmorphia is a good start. Then you can begin treatment and hopefully get this person to stop self-harming.

>>3296711
>How much am I required to support someone in their delusion?

Not him but you aren't, you can always choose to not get involved.

>>3294477
China as it is is a giant social contract between the people and the CCP. As long as the CCP brings economic growth and stability, the people will tolerate totalitarianism. The USSR failed because it couldn't bring economic growth. If the economy stagnates, expect to see louder calls for political reform.

>>3294706
It looks drawn on with marker.

>>3294804
>The rebelling province of the mainland will one day be thrown to the bin of history and the KMT will return to the mainland and Chinese will take over the world.
Kek. Not going to happen. The mainland could smite you if they wish.

>>3294820
Anything I don't like = police state

>>3295028
Because they're losers who need a persecution complex to feel better about themselves.

My friend in Hong Kong says mainland Chinese people can't be saved.

>>3295028
If you think there is nothing wrong in that picture, then you just prove you've been successfully brainwhased, indoctrinated. You juts like the residents in those Dystopia novels such as Brave New World, 1984...

This shows how twisted and horrible our world has became, because even the so-called "Free Country" can end up like that. I think maybe China is better than this in some way, because at least Chinese always know they're ruled by authoritarian dictatorship, and they know very well what could happen if they allow extremists and perverts take in charge, they have abundant first hand experiences after all.

It's unfortunate but democracy and freedom have nothing to do with a state being strong or wealthy.

>>3294804
Legal status doesn't mean shit
If not for Korean war KMT would be all dead in 1950

>>3294729
its literally cherrypicked issues of the course of 30 years

also its not like you got much worth preserving buddy

>>3296711
The surgery is the treatment

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>>3297367
>Rampantly infested and aggressively pushed by libercuks worldwide
>"muh cherrypicked issues"
I don't know what dimension or basement are you from, but let me laugh at you for a second.

lolll

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>>3297409
nice argument

>>3294477
>How could someone be totally okay with a government monitored internet and police state?
Because unless you explicitly start saying down with the government in a public place or to a large forum, nothing will happen.

We have the exact same level of monitoring in the west, the difference is they get you for saying Nigger to someone.

>>3294695
>implying china isn't a morally bankrupt and corrupt shithole

Also stop larping fag.

>>3295113
>too young to agree to sex
Correct
>Old enough to make a life changing decision to become another gender
Hmmmm

Nice contradiction there.

>>3297282
>I think maybe China is better than this in some way
China is fucked in their own little ways.
Did they finally repeal that retarded law that literally made people finish you off if they hit you with a car, because if they maim you they have to pay you for the rest of your life?

>>3297195
I kinda doubt they can. Most of them still act like 14th century peasants, and they're much ruder than the Hong Kongers who had british etiquette forced on them.

A lot of the young people are pretty sharp and switched on about it all, and know Mao/The party are a bunch of cocks.

Others however... jesus christ. Don't say anything negative about China using your real name or photo. You will regret it. Their online army will come for you.

>>3297481
>Did they finally repeal that retarded law that literally made people finish you off if they hit you with a car, because if they maim you they have to pay you for the rest of your life?
See, typical western brainwashed, really no better than China.

There are some stupid laws and issues in China, yes, everyone knows that, but the whole "accidents" situation is not really like what you imagine, and it really is nothing compare to your libertard agendas in the West.

If you accidentally hurt someone in China, you may only need to compensate them with money(although it's very costly sometime), but if you "intentionally kill someone" after the accidents happened, and there is solid evidence can prove that (like those gory " Live Leak" videos you westerners fond of so much), you'll be sentenced to "Death" or "Life Imprisonment" almost without question! Because it's equal to murder. You can easily to see which one is worst, right?

You wouldn't honestly believe those manics you saw in the "live leak" footage can still escape from punishments, no? Don't you know why those footage are leaking to internet? They're leaking from Chinese social medias in the first place.

It's called "EUGENICS". Basically we round up all the little boys who declare themselves unfit for manhood and give them endocrine disrupting chemicals which permanently destroy their ability to reproduce. To be extra certain that we've gotten them all, we push hard for trans acceptance in pop culture outlets as well as criminalizing any speech which could inhibit the effectiveness of this program.

Everyone who remains has earned the right to pass into manhood through his own genetic superiority.

>>3297571
Did you really expect the elites not to preserve some kind of barrier to adulthood that the individual must overcome? Society demanded the end of the draft. We gave it to them. Society demanded helicopter parenting. That become normalized. Society demanded that university become a de facto period of extended high school where everybody delays entering the workforce, rather than being the intensive networking center for tomorrow's leaders. We dutifully complied, by keeping the entire student body in economic dependency.

We can't NOT have a rite of passage. Every culture on earth has them, it's just that in other countries, they still use ones which are considered somewhat "normal". But here in the West, the coddled West, we're down to filtering the weak by creating this stupid gender dysphoria meme and pretending to take it seriously. That's the only way we have left to select for children who merit becoming adults. Tranny propaganda is just a giant social test. If you make it from birth to 18 without wanting to chop your dick off, you passed!

>>3294477
is . . is that a rick and morty quote?

>>3297571
>>3297601
is this some kind of coping mechanism at work or do you actually fucking believe a word of what you said there?

>>3297623
I thought it was a good mashup considering history

>>3294477
How do you fix what isn't broken?

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>>3295028

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>>3297450
t. 52%

>>3297367
>30 years
Those Time magazine covers are literally dated from 2008 till 2016.

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>>3297571
Makes you think...

>>3294804
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/08/15/taiwan-power-cut/%3fsource=dam
https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/taiwan-official-resigns-blackout-hits-island-49241710
How progressive!

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>>3298854
>The New Face of America | Nov. 18, 1993

>>3299082
The other 5 are from 2012-2017 you fucking retard.

1993 was 24 years ago as well.

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>>3294695
Pretty much.

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>>3299176
>The U.S.-Mexico Border | June 11, 2001

> is your baby raciest? september 6 2009

> Why Amnesty Makes Sense | June 18, 2007

i reiterate my previous reply

>>3294804
nice b8 m8 i r8 it 8/8

Also, rightful? Really? In what way? Curious to hear what you come up with

>>3296711
okay Dave chappelle, maybe you could idk just fucking figure out what people wanna be called, it is really not that hard.

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>>3294477
>t. I have never been in modern China.
They're basically Americans: shallow, commercialized, and full of themselves. Except they have their own culture.

>>3294477
ask the us in 5 years

>>3294520
fuck you. people like you are the literal scum of this modern age. please kill yourself so the virus of your twisted dystopian world does not spread to deceive the will of free men

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>>3294477
No. Deng realized this.

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>>3295143
Good meme

>>3299830
jsut liek everym odern culture

>>3299830
They don't though, the commies destroyed it all.

>>3294520
>He actually believes politicians and police themselves won't resort to crime when given this power

Moron