At the end of the 1950s the US was near the height of its powers,

>>3293777

the economic system developed to the point the people who owned everything no longer made enough profit to maintain it, it was just industrialy too developed, everything was way too cheap and affordable, and the system unloaded this massive production surpluss into technocratic mega projects like sending people to the moon, and generaly turned it into cadilacs and washingmachines and such to drown the surplus among the consumer population, as consumerism was largely developed precisely to deal with this surplus

from the 60is onwards, especialy after 1971 and then trough the 80is, deregulation and outsourcing made it so they were making profit again, but everything else went to shit

any possible moral or ideological 'degeneration' is ragely due to the fact the 50is smiling cardboard cut out nuclear family crap was just consumerist propaganda any way, even your example is basicaly some comercial all in bright technicolor

>>3293777

>why does a 50s advertisement not look like a 60s candid photo

>>3293865

No arguments again. Wtf is wrong with this board? Does anyone of you here have any idea what you're talking about? Why don't you cunts just go back to /r/politics where you can jerk yourself on the mindless bullshit that you spew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSV72VNnV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Free market neoliberalism and the destruction of unions.

>Deregulation
Not even once.

>>3293929
The argument is that your whole premise is wrong. The 50s were not such great years as you want to believe. Racism was rampant, women were still nothing but breeding and cooking machines. The US was extremely powerful and did not respect other countries, at all.

People might remember it as a great time because they did no longer have to endure the hardships of war (not like the US really had any).
I think the main thing though was that capitalism wasn't as rampant back then, you still had small businesses and workers were still seen as human beings. Nowadays it's all about mega companies, harshest, international competition and outsourcing of the workforce.

>>3293777
First of all, nice digits.
>Its people were unquestionably confident in the country's anti-communist purpose and mission, and unabashedly nationalistic.

Are you implying that they were right? I mean, saying that US citizens were nationalistic and anti-communist just makes me think about the fact that they had been subjected for a decade to actual nationalist propaganda (during WWII) and after that they were subjected to actual anti-commie propaganda (MacCarthyism). This is not something you should wish for again.

>By the beginning of the 1970s, the US was a psychologically defeated nation, riddled with self-doubt and nihilism, with levels of drug and gang-related crime and domestic terrorism approaching the level of an internal low-level conflict, widespread contempt for authority, in an economically precarious situation due to oil shocks, trade imbalances and the end of the gold standard, a condition from which it did not recover until near the end of the 1980s, with some arguing it has yet to recover.

Oh boy, he believed Nixon.

>>3293777

Very simple, the welfare state.

>>3293967
>Racism was rampant,
So
>women were still nothing but breeding and cooking machines.
Not even true but even then so what? Why do your assume your cliche morality is default?

>>3293975
My moral view of people being equal stems from the constitution of the US (it started with the French I think) and it's default because it's the prevailing view on things of all successful modern societies, which I am -luckily- part of.

>>3293975
>>3293968
Racism wasn't even rampant either. 90+ of the population was European and the 9% or whichever which were Black only faced institutionalized racism in the former south.

>>3293777
>How did it suffer such a drastic collapse in less than one generation?

Black people and mexicans flooding the nation

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>>3293975
>So?
>So what?
Woah, 2 edgy 4 me.

>>3293975
The majority of people in the US were second-class citizens in the 1950s (either because of their gender or their race).

You may be indifferent to that fact but the majority of the population enjoyed far greater rights and freedoms after your 'collapse' than they did in the 1950s.

Your attitude to it is irrelevant - the majority of the country will have seen that as progress.

>>3294021
>The majority of people in the US were second-class citizens in the 1950s
That's not true though. As >>3293997 point out, women and men both and had Civil Rights which were logical for their genders. Including voting, divorce, ect.

>>3293798
This

>>3293777
US was at its strongest in 1990s not 1950s

>>3293777
Well it wasn't it before the war so I guess that explains it. You'd need to instigate a major world war every decade to turn everybody into your ideal patriotic drone. Compare the 90's with the 00's.
In the lead up to the war there were major progressive and socialist movements and also mob violence and lynchings.

>>3294050
>women and men both and had Civil Rights which were logical for their genders. Including voting, divorce, ect.
By calling your worldview "logical" (and I'm sure you don't know the first thing about logic) you're just trying to validate it as an objective interpretation, which it isn't. I seriously doubt that what you consider "logical" does apply to all of those women (who are still individuals) who do not want to comform to your fantasy utopia, and this could NOT be the case in the '50s.

Secondly, I don't see why you are deliberately taking people of color out of the picture. They were still American citizens, and they were still subjected to actual, open racism. Why sould I say that living in the US was great, since you had 1 in 10 chances to live as a second-class citizen for your entire life? That's terrifying.

>>3293968
Are you denying that the US was not extremely self-confident at the beginning of the 1960s and no longer so by the end of the decade?

>>3293967
>The 50s were not such great years as you want to believe. Racism was rampant, women were still nothing but breeding and cooking machines. The US was extremely powerful and did not respect other countries, at all.

None of this answers the question of why the US was extremely powerful at the time, and more importantly willing to apply that power to pursue its objectives, but was no longer so within less than 10 years. It's nothing but a morality whine.

>>3294050
>That's not true though
I think you're wildly deluded. The fact that they had certain rights does not mean that they enjoyed anything approaching equality when you take into consideration the overall picture. They both faced considerable discrimination and were institutionally denied basic opportunities enjoyed by white men.

In case you're wondering, I'm not some sort of loony left SJW. What I'm trying to point out is that 1950s America was not a place of false victimhood; there was plenty of the real thing going around back then.

>>3294082
I'm questioning the source of that confidence, and how much of it was reflected by actual societal successes. While there are many good things that can be said about the '50s, I would say that anyone who actually believes in human rights would say that it was still an essentially morally bankrupt society.

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No but seriously, if you look away from OP saying that the fifties were hella great, why were the 70s and 80s in Murica so bad? Urban decay, gang violence, segregation..

>>3294173
CIA invented crack cocaine and started smuggling cocaine and heroin in the big cities.

>>3294098

they did apply their power to pursue their objectives, they just stopped considering full employment and space exploration as objectives

>>3293777
1) War-weariness. The self-doubt, contempt for authority and nihilism you're describing were all closely related to public dissatisfaction with Vietnam.

You can even make a case for a lot of drug-use being Vietnam-related as well - a lot of young people picked up shitty habits in southeast Asia that they brought back with them. Not to mention the mental health problems and violent crime plaguing Vietnam vets upon their return to America.

2) America in the late 1940s, early 1950s was one of the few parts of the developed world that had not been absolutely obliterated by WWII. Europe was a wreck, Asia was a wreck, the US was largely unscathed. As the rest of the world rediscovered its industrial capabilities, US dominance began to waiver.

3) Exploding labour market. As civil rights and feminism progressed, the available workforce grew dramatically. This was further exacerbated by the baby boomers coming of age. This meant that the workforce exploded just as international industrial competition ramped up.

>>3293777
The little blond billy on the 50is commercial looks angry as fuck.

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>>3294173

>>3294196
but y tho

>>3294202

because obviously the 50is werent realy all that and OP is masturbating over vintage marketing ads

No one is answering why the US economy went to shit in the 1970s, or why its national cohesion and self-confidence suddenly collapsed so abruptly

>>3294223
We all know it was Reagan, there's no need to repeat it everytime.

>>3294218
Faggot, explains this then >>3294196

If things were so peachy after the 1950s, why did the crime rate spike as it did?

>>3294020
Sup reddit

>>3294231
Read >>3294175

>>3294223

>No one is answering why the US economy went to shit in the 1970s

>>3294186
>>3293798

basicaly postwar demographic changes and the sort of liberal economic policies that became what is known as neoliberalism (you guys call that neoconservativism)

>>3294231

they werent peachy after the 50is because they werent peachy to begin with, each decade is a development of the one before, its not like in 1959 everyone suddenly became criminaly insane but in 1958 they were all smiling in pastel colours and polka dot dresses and it was all heaven

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I'm not sure why the 1950s are idealised so much when poverty rates were so bad back then (around 1 in 4 Americans was living in poverty).

Say what you want about the US economy in the 70s but poverty rates were nowhere near as bad as the 50s.

It would also be interested to look into whether there were any changes affecting the way crime was recorded between the 50s and the 70s. It seems peculiar that violent crime would explode as poverty shrunk.

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>>3294330

>>3294270
Poverty is arbitrary and subjective. Who's to say living off the land is poverty and who's to say owning a lot but being in massive debt isn't poverty?

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>>3293777
Confirmation bias, people were more prosperous in the 70s when you look at broader indicators like incomes and healthcare.

>drug and gang-related crime and domestic terrorism approaching the level of an internal low-level conflict
So 0.001% of people were murdered a year instead of the lows of 0.0005%, a little above the prohibition era. Even if this was relevant, the cause was obviously drugs.

>>3293798
>>3294055
>le tendency of the rate of profit to fall meme
t. commies

Labor is just another resource, worker labor in particular is far from the wellspring of all value as Marx imagines.

>>3293996
>successful modern societies
French here. We really need to define "successful".
All morality aside, I really don't feel like I live in a successful society.
We had an empire, it's no more.
We had full employment, it's no more.
We had solid industries, it's no more.
We had a prosperous agriculture, it's no more.
We had safety, it's no more.
etc...
All was lost within few decades.
It's not my definition of "successful" and I'm pretty sure the situation is similar in the US. People being equal may be the epitome of what is a good society, but surprisingly when I look through recent history the more equality we have the less happiness we have. I need solid proofs that it's not related.

>>3294137
The concept of human rights was developed by the post-war American consensus as an ideologically pure path forward. It was a PRODUCT of the 50s.

>>3294020
Literally not an argument

>>3294443
Most progressive Americans, worship European societies.

>>3293975
i enjoy knowing that you clearly live a miserable life and have to hide all of your disgusting pathetic opinions from the people around you to avoid unending shame and ridicule

>>3294223
>why its national cohesion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965

>>3294223
>1970

Socialist policies, welfare, went off gold standard, government interventions in the economy

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>>3294223
That's when US oil production peaked and they got buttfucked by the Arabs, you'd be frustrated too if you needed a car to do everything in society and the gas station was empty. Companies used the high oil prices to increase exploration and the economy recovered in the 80's when new oil fields came online

>>3294173
it's the tail end of white-flight. These cities were depopulated except by homeless, drug addicts, mentally ill, and urban poor. A depopulating city loses its tax base will still having all sorts of infrastructure and other obligations to pay for, thus necessarily is in debt. Unmaintained infrastructure and decrease in ability to police makes it a center of criminal activities as does cheap housing or abandoned housing allow for such denizens, criminals, druggies, etc. to move in.

White flight in the larger cities began immediately after WWII, the effects weren't quite visible until the '60s when it sped up with the race riots and the lose of some manufacturing.

>>3294098

Are you retarded?

Because the rest of the world was in ruins and once countries began to recover, so did american power naturally began to diminish in proportion.

>>3293777
Boomers are whiny, entitled, mindless children.

>>3294339
Most people would say that.

>>3297473
Seems like a lot of them are lurking on 4chan

>>3294250
'Neoliberalism' started after the transformation OP is referring to.

>>3294363
The homicide rate clearly is higher in 1970s than 1950s judging by your chart.

>>3293798
That's interesting, but it sounds like somewhat of a conspiracy theory -- I don't believe that the middle class was destroyed on purpose with market liberalism. It's simply what "happened" when corporations and finance were let loose and countries like China began to demand their share of wealth.

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>>3294231
Leaded gasoline was making people crazy.

>>3293777
Nixon and Reagan, and the whole cold war where children where told that their world could end at any minute

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>>3293967
>Racism was rampant,
Yeah that was necessary to keep their problematic tendencies in check. Now look at the results after they've been allowed to run wild

>>3298307
Are you seriously defending the shittiness of the old racial order? Kids got beaten to death for looking the wrong way at white people, the South was essentially made up of one party states, political protestors were repeatedly jailed, beaten, harassed, and occasionally killed by authorities, and houses and churches were blown up because residents upset the racist order.

>>3297816
And that doesn't prove your point as I explained in my post >>3294363 .

>>3298366
>if I use the word racist enough times I'll gain moral authority.

>>3298459
I never used the word.

>>3298463
Read the before last word of your post, brainlet.

>>3293777
(((cultural marxism)))

>>3293777
Hello /pol/, kindly fuck off and stop making stupid threads.
There was rampant racism and sexism and only white males lived well, so it never collapsed and is only getting better and better, with each oppressive statue removed being a step in the left direction.

>>3298366
Racism doesn't need to be defended, it's been a huge success historically.

>>3298467
Once. Hardly very often.

>>3298480
You probably wouldn't say that if you were black in 1960s Mississippi.

>>3298475
>There was rampant racism and sexism and only white males lived well,
Oy vey

>>3298490
Better to be black in 1960s Mississippi than in 2010s Detoilet.

>>3298475
>only white males lived well
even that is fucking debatable considering the rate of poverty in the 50s. Also you know, there was the Korean War that kicked off at the beginning of the decade, which was pretty shitty.

>>3298475
>USA is only getting better and better
More poverty, more illiteracy, more chronic diseases... All in all much much more people left behind, numerically.

>>3298542
That's the culture of neoliberal capitalism for you.

>>3298542
>numerically
No shit, the population is over twice as big now.

>>3298499
Not even close.

>>3298609
I said numerically in case of "hurr durr not proportionally". In the end what really count is the number of people left behind, you can't claim "things go better and better" when in reality there's a huge and increasing number of miserables.

>>3293777
I would guess cynicism of Vietnam combined with typical generational rebellion by silents and boomers of their parents who fought in the World Wars and were the parents of the post-war boom period. They grew up with everything but with strict parents and grew dissatisfied as a backlash becoming the Me Generation, the first to really think only of themselves and their own immediacy and not others and the future.

That's all just what it looks like to me though. I really need to read Lasch's Culture of Narcissism.

>>3298366

White racism was, and is still, less horrific than black criminality.

More blacks are killed in Chicago, each year by other blacks, then were lynched in 80 years in the entire southern region. Not just one city in the South. THE ENTIRE SOUTH.

In what sort of hell do you view this state of affairs as a heaven?

>>3293777

> Its people were unquestionably confident in the country's anti-communist purpose and mission, and unabashedly nationalistic.

No, they weren't. A lot of them were just being comformists as long as things were looking good for them. Dissident voices were suppressed.
Blacks, for example, have always been dissatisfied, but they were ignored until they started organizing.

>>3298950
CONT.

Not to mention that legal meth was a real force in the early 20th century. The blitzkrieg wouldn't have been possible without soldiers being able to operate round the clock.

Of course it ended up biting them in the ass once soldiers couldn't function without their dose of meth.

>>3298950
The population when lynching was at its height was a fraction of today's population. Of course the numbers will be different.

>>3299026
even when taken proportionally you're still completely btfo

>>3299026

At the very most, we have twice the number of people that were in the country prior the civil rights era.

Racist KKK members were far less of a (material) danger to african americans than other AAs.

>>3298418
I'm not the same person you were talking to.

>>3298475
>There was rampant racism and sexism
Yeah, and now we got even more rampant racism, reverse racism, revisionism, drug abuse, forced diversity, 192+ genders and massive sexual degeneracy. So progressive, so much better!

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Why is an idyllic 50s community in the north responsible for a bunch of dumb hick racists 1000 miles away?

Wasn't it these same people, the high minded greatest generation who came back from fighting the nazis and wanted to build a better world for their boomer children, who gave the civil rights movement the support it needed? Wasn't it these same people who paid for their daughter's college with their GI Bill bennies so they wouldn't be dependent on their husbands?

Why are leftists so pathologically desperate to accuse this seemingly innocuous group of being evil incarnate?

Why do images like this leave them feeling physically sick and literally shaking? How were they brainwashed to be this way?

>>3299032
>Racist KKK members were far less of a (material) danger to african americans than other AAs.
That's a retarded point. That's like saying Americans are statistically more of a threat to each other than ISIS. Of course, the majority of violence is intra-group, that's always the case.

>>3293777
>How did it suffer such a drastic collapse in less than one generation?
Demographic shifts and geoeconomics.
After WWII Europe was in complete shambles and the rest of the world was rural and impoverished, this allowed America (which had already profited immensely from the war) to rise to the occasion and meet international and domestic consumer demands without competition. By the 70's Europe (and Japan) had recovered economically and were in a position to claim their slice of the cake, this coupled with the expansion of the domestic American labour pool as well as the near-death of the American blue-collar worker due to the offshoring of manufacturing jobs into countries on the cusp of urbanization like China due to Nixon and Kissinger's diplomatic efforts created an economic vacuum in the US that caused the lack of social cohesion you speak of.
Also the White-flight that had begun immediately after WWI had finally culminated by the 1970's as another anon said, which basically stripped cities of their economic core and tax revenue, which basically rubbed salt in the wound that was deindustrialization.

It wasn't hippies and leftists.

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>tfw the American middle class will die completely within your lifetime

>>3299032
The robber or mugger down the street isn't usually motivated by an ideology or unified movement.

>>3299032
>Racist KKK members were far less of a (material) danger to african americans than other AAs.

You know how much infleunce the kkk and their sympathizers to their beliefs fucked up the black citizeney?

>>3298909
>more people means there are more people who might be unhappy
No shit, but we aren't discussing antinatalism

>>3299570
To describe it in the local parlance if "autism" would be underselling it

Lmao probably because europe finally built itself back up by the 1960's post ww2 damage and rentered the market. Plus the retardation that was the vietnam war.

>>3299602
>USA 1950: N people left behind
>USA 2017: 10N people left behind
>it's better and better
I'm never tired to discuss with fanatics...

>>3299789
By the late 40's,manufacturing started to shift away.

>>3293997
>the former south
Where did it move to?

>>3294363
>worker labor in particular is far from the wellspring of all value as Marx imagines.

Marx never claimed this.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm

"Labor is not the source of all wealth. Nature is just as much the source of use values (and it is surely of such that material wealth consists!) as labor, which itself is only the manifestation of a force of nature, human labor power."

>>3298909
That's a very peculiar way of looking at things.

>>3299901
I'm sure you wouldn't like to be one of them. US society produces more miserables in 2017 than in 1950 and some people have the nerves to say it goes better and better because at least we can wreck some evil statues. Hilarious.

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>>3293777
>How did it suffer such a drastic collapse in less than one generation?
People started to ask questions. The answers didn't sound too great.
The 50's was the worst point in modern American history by far.

>>3293997
No there was a ton of institutionalized racism in the North as well.

>>3299152
Its already dead in some US cities. Washington DC has the highest level of income inequality in the nation. All of the middle class government workers have been pushed out to the suburbs and exurbs of Maryland and Virginia.

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>>3293967
>Nowadays it's all about mega companies, harshest, international competition and outsourcing of the workforce.

Pretty schway t-b-h chummer

>>3293777
Top: staged photo
Bottom: (probably) real-life photo
Not that it necessarily reflects on your question, OP, but I thought I'd point it out.
Also keep in mind that the bottom photo is not an accurate picture of any point in American history. Even in the late 60s, the hippies were a very small fraction of American society.

>>3293777
>How did it suffer such a drastic collapse in less than one generation?
Because majority of the world was fucked by the war, even ussr. Do tell me how many american cities were destroyed?

The rest of the world began to catch up, add to that the neo liberalism which lifted the restrictions of movement of capital and labor. No longer you had to pay 20 dollars for some dumb blue collar american when you can hire 20 pinoys to do the same job.

the prosperity of 50s was AN ANOMALY. Due to war + fdr-ike's socialistic policies. They are gone and they will not come back.

>>3298950
Seems like you're conveniently using a window that covers the last 100 years and leaving out the time of chattel slavery.

>>3299098
>Why do images like this leave them feeling physically sick and literally shaking? How were they brainwashed to be this way?
Dude, most leftists aren't like that. You seem to have become convinced that all leftists are extreme SJW nutcases. Which means that you're brainwashed yourself. You've probably spent too much time self-segregating in online echo chambers, not enough time interacting with people in meat-space. I'm not even a leftist but for fuck's sake, I know plenty of them and they're not this ridiculous caricature that you present.

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>>3294196
>>3294202
>>3294231
Relevant image. The violent crime rates of the 70s-80s were not unprecedented. Similar levels had existed during the Great Depression.

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>>3293777

Leftist cultural subversion with moral collapse, feminism, atheism, nigger movements, socialist movement etc. US was subject to one long demoralization campaign.

Boomers ruined this country; the army should have shot every hippie, communist and black panther on sight. Feminism should have been crushed and atheism not allowed to grow. We are living with its poisoned fruits today.

>>3300129
Go look at all the parts of the world where women and atheists are currently oppressed by state force and tell me how well those societies are doing.
Hint: a lot of them are in the Middle East.

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>>3300146
>>3300146

>women and atheists are currently oppressed by state force

You mean like Europe up until ca WWI? That's my fantasy senpai.

>>3300149
Yes, yes, we know your fantasies... you want to live in a Wahhabi shithole that would have a failed economy and no scientific innovation.
Women and atheists weren't even close to being as oppressed by state force in 19th Europe as what you desire. Women couldn't vote until the early 20th century - but there wasn't any state attempt to "crush" feminism.

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>>3300155

Atheism and feminism both had police and legal methods used against them. I mean yeah it's kind of overkill to shoot Susan Anthony but definitely arrest her and harass her.

The future will be more reactionary whether we like it or not. There are plenty of people like me who feel closer to conservative Muslims than your degenerate, amoral neoliberal hellhole. We're just biding our time while more whites die off. I'd rather live in Iran than commiefornia.

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>>3300155

>tfw your society is great people literally don't reproduce and so you have to completely replace your demographic makeup to keep the whole thing going

>>3300155
>there wasn't any state attempt to "crush" feminism.
Feminism wasn't even a factor back then, your statement is absurd.
Fun fact, the western societies are declining since the rise of feminism, women being the first victims of course.

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>>3299876
He was talking about natural resources, not the constant capital in his equation where it grows and grows while contributing nothing to surplus value.

A more realistic view would be to look at capital markets in real life where investors lose interest when the apparent returns on an investment are too low. If you track a mature industry, after the initial boom the rates of return approach something like 3% or 4%, as you might expect a low-risk pension fund to tolerate. Thus the tendency of the rate of profit to fall approaches these, significant albeit low, numbers rather than approaching 0.

There is no crises, happy capitalists clink champagne glasses and admire their voluminous portfolios.

>>3300168
I'd consider you reasonable if you advocated for, say, immigration law reform or a restructuring of the welfare state. But when you say things like "the army should have shot every hippie, communist and black panther on sight. Feminism should have been crushed", and when you blame everything on a "demoralization campaign", as if there was some monolithic leftist agenda (rather than a bunch of separate movements that disagree on a lot, which is more accurate) you get put in the "ranting cultist" category as far as I'm concerned.

>>3300189
>Fun fact, the western societies are declining since the rise of feminism
Would you actually rather live in the year 1900?
>women being the first victims of course.
Wut

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>>3300193

Sometimes you just need a good clean sweep of society. But the reforms you just said should definitely be thrown in. The difference is like that of killing a weed versus actually pulling it out. Something more like Chinese lines should be in the cards for the US.

>>3300197

Not him but I would. My values line up mir with society of that time and make inner happiness more likely. Contemporary society is an atomized materialist hellhole. There's no point to living if I'm miserable in my BMW.

>>3300193

All those groups broadly align insofar as hatred of traditional white, religious, conservative society. They still form the same voting block. Some nazis wanted the Jews dead and others just sent to Madagascar.

>>3300200
Meh. I'm not a sociopath. Even if I was, "good clean sweep"s have a miserable track record historically. Usually they just set the country back a few decades.
>>3300206
Yeah, that's probably cause you're imagining being one of the few middle class or rich people back then, not one of the teeming mass of proles working in hellish conditions.

>>3300215
Yeah, they form the same voting block because the nature of electoral politics usually creates two umbrella parties and you have to choose one or the other if you want your vote to count in an immediate way. Reasonable people don't call this state of affairs a "demoralization campaign", as if it was plotted from an underground bunker by mustache-twirling villains.
Millions of white women support Trump. I don't think that means they want women's suffrage reversed.

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>>3300221

Set the country back a few decades from the Progressive Society Free of Hate? I'm good with that.

>>3300221

It would be entirely up to fate. At least I'd live in a society more in tune with my views. It's a shame I'm not Mormon or I'd be out to Utah in a heartbeat. We need a white traditionalist conservative state in this country.

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>>3300232

Have you ever read Saul Alinsky or heard of Yuri Bezmonov? Or KGB groups in Europe? They absolutely had help from Russia. Look at the "united front" campaign Stalin did in the 30s.

>>3300242
Yeah, I have. All that was a minor factor in what that dude (not sure if you or somebody else) was complaining about. And Bezmenov, BTW, is a bad example. Obvious nutcase and/or con artist.

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>>3300247

There is clearly some kind of generally orchestrated, big picture campaign being waged. Look at the lefts long march through education and pop culture. Look at how quickly the new leftist target switches to something else to change society. Blacks to gays to trannies to pedos.

>>3299824
>USA 2017: 10N people left behind
That's a gross exaggeration. It's more like:
>USA 1950: N people left behind
>USA 2017: N people left behind
Proportionally things have got much better. Instead of 1 in 4 Americans living in poverty it's 1 in 7. Cherry-pick your stats all you want but that's progress.

>current year and intellectually smug liberals still believe the Whig history meme

>>3300257
>There is clearly some kind of generally orchestrated, big picture campaign being waged.
Nothing of the sort is clear at all. To me it seems that it's mostly just different subgroups of leftists pushing in whatever direction each group is most interested in. Leftists aren't superhumans capable of pulling off decades-long coordinated subversion campaigns. They can barely run a country without going bankrupt, for fuck's sake.

>>3300272

I disagree, it's like the one thing they excel at. Remember these are the people who gave us feels over reals. No matter what happens they always, in the long run, shift the Overton window to the left. Even reagans America was socially more liberal than the 50s. Bush II's was further left, Trumps is further left.

because, unironically, capitalism is morally rotten from the core

>>3300197
>>women being the first victims of course.
>Wut
Guess who's at the bottom of the scale, inevitably. Feminists don't fight, they dig their grave.
And yes I'd rather live at a time where relations were desperately sincere.

>>3300260
>proportionally
Thanks for the extra millions people who suffer. But that's cool, we have gender equality and shiet, and it's proportionally, individuals don't count...
You're frightening.

>>3300285
What makes you think any of it is centrally coordinated, though? I'm not disputing that the Overton window has shifted - I'm disputing that there's some sort of overarching coordination to it.

>>3300242
>le KGB conspiracy

>>3300170
>le 68% white meme

>>3300404
Being at the bottom now isn't a bad as it was back then anon.

>>3300129
LE LOOK AT ME MOM I'M LE TROLLING LE SHITLORD FAGGOT TUMBLR SJW KIKES ON LE INTERNET!!!!111!!! XXXXDDDDDD!!! I'M LE EBIN TROLLMASTER EDGY REACTIONARY ALPHA MALE WHITE MASTER RACE XXDDD I'M SAVING LE WHITE RACE FROM LE EURABIA AND LE FUCKING DUMBASS NIGGERS AND DEGENERATE FAGGOTS PUTTING AIDS IN LE FLUORIDE WATER FUNDED BY LE JEWS AND LE CULTURAL MARXIST KIKE BITCH FEMINAZI DYKES DESTROYING MUH PROUD NORDIC HERITAGE AND MUH FOUNDATIONS OF CIVILIZATION XXDDDD

@3300538
take your meds

>>3298950
Gang violence in inner cities generally isn't tied to an ideological movement or organization.

The jews

>>3293967
>Racism was rampant, women were still nothing but breeding and cooking machines.
How is this bad, again? Either this is good bait, or you're some type of libtard. Tell me, did you come from reddit? I think you came from reddit.

>>3294020
>>3295414
>>3293996

>>>/r/eddit

>>3293929
> No arguments
Go to bed Stefan.

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>>3293777
heh, nothing personal kid

>>3293777
economically strong position
If you were white. The Federal Housing Administration subsidized low cost mortgages that created strong financial and housing industries. The mortgages were only offered to whites, however. As a condition of the mortgage, the house could never be resold to blacks.

Blacks were forced into urban middle cities, unable to buy. They might as well have been the German ghettos of WWII.

> Buh buh crime
Why should a brother respect laws that are designed to keep him in poverty?

>>3300532

>census data isn't real

>>3300538

Autism on fleek

>>3293967
>Racism was rampant, women were still nothing but breeding and cooking machines.
Based. Niggers and cunts knew their proper stations. Get fucked Libshit subhuman. I can't wait for the death of your cancerous ideology.

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>>3301493

Amen

>>3293967
What a massive faggot

>>3294021
>The majority of people in the US were second-class citizens in the 1950s (either because of their gender or their race).
For a reason you massive retard, for good reason. Also second-class citizen is a buzzword.

>>3300232
>Millions of white women support Trump. I don't think that means they want women's suffrage reversed.
What's your fucking point? Trump on most social issues is either Liberal, or flip flops. If Trump actually ran on Socially Conservative platform where he would've banned shit like Abortion, you would've seen a lot less white women voting for him.

>>3300129
>the army should have shot every hippie, communist and black panther on sight. Feminism should have been crushed and atheism not allowed to grow.
Isn't the USA supposed to be the Land of Freedom ?

>>3300404
>And yes I'd rather live at a time where relations were desperately sincere.

1.What's the link between sincere relationship and feminism ?

2.What make you say that relationship where more sincere ?

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>>3301493
>Based
See: >>3300590

americans are cancer, need to be cut out and ejected to space so the planet can heal and prosper

>>3300579
>>3301493
Are you trolling, or are you just mad cause you suck with women?

>>3300129
I like your pic even though I'm not Christian.

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>>3300538
You sound like a screeching retard.

>>3298475
not to say blacks had it better in the 1950s overall, but they certainly had more jobs. same goes for white non-college youths

>>3301586

Shooting communists is a form of societal self defense

>>3301771
What about hippie, atheist and feminist ?

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>>3301636
>Are you trolling, or are you just mad cause you suck with women?
Yawn* Ad Hominem, nothing of substance,

50s were really the golden era. My grandpa came to US after the war and worked for his entire life as school janitor who barely spoke English. He married and had 5 children. Bought two houses one of which he sold when retired at twice the price.

>>3300543

The point was that blacks are literally a greater danger to members of their own race per capita. By a large margin. It's dishonest to blame whitey for black hands pulling black triggers on black guns.


>>3301100

>> Buh buh crime
>Why should a brother respect laws that are >designed to keep him in poverty?

So you rob asian owned convenience stores and rape the women of other races because "the system"?

HA HA HA HA. Just like a nigger to avoid any form of personal responsibility. There's an extra scoop of irony in the way AA activism works. By preventing an actual examination of the actual difficulties AAs have (2x schizophrenia, sickle cell, far lower capacity for delayed gratification, 70+% fatherlessness, etc), they forget to apply actual medicine to the ever-sickened patient. So to speak.

>>3301100
>Why should a brother respect laws that are designed to keep him in poverty?
Because everyone could say this, dumbo.
>why should I pay taxes? It keeps me in poverty.

>>3301867
CONT.

And of course, what will these virtue signaling retards yell when people start having designer kids?

Are they going to yell when black parents choose "blue eyes, blond hair, white skin" in the form for genetic alteration as opposed to their native physiologies?

What sort of cognitive dissonance will the left have to swallow when people make incredibly predictive choices in their usage of new biotech?

>>3301771
>wrongthink

>>3293777

>How did it suffer such a drastic collapse in less than one generation?

Literally Jews, Jewish Interests and Marxism.

>>3301848

>replies with ad-hominem

>Expects something of value as a reply


You just reek of some reddit shitwash who came on 4chan expecting a racist circlejerk

Go kill yourself and die.

>>3301975

>average 4chan member not somewhat racist
>it's a "redditor tries to fit in but accidentally outs himself episode"

Who says "shitwash"? Take your lingo back to r/Bernie dude

>>3302018

We can already see this in how Asian countries absolutely refuse to fall for the multicultural meme.

>>3302011


>average 4chan member not somewhat racist

>This clearly shows it's the right place for my confirmation bias circlejerk

Kill yourself.

>>3302041

>honestly implying 4chan isn't racist

Welcome newfriend

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>>3302094

>mfw when cryptonewfag posts at me

>>3302094
Old 4chan was nihilistic, and racism was one component of their desire to be as offensive and iconoclastic as possible.

New 4chan actually thinks that their opinions matter and that talking about politics on the internet is a good idea.

Know the difference.

>>3293997
From what all the old American Mestizos down here in the Southwest say (outside of bordertowns), life was pretty good for us Beans as well, in fact they said everyone seemed to get along better.

They still didn't like the blacks though

>>3300129
Fuck off back to raqqa muhammad

>>3293777

People wised the fuck up?

>>3294443
We still have most of these things, and life is still easy as fuck here.

>idolize a past where blacks and women were officially treated like shit
>whine when sjws denounce "white cis male" privileges

Poltards get dumber everyday

>>3301636
>being sexist and dominant with women makes you bad with women
Oh you sweet naive boy.

>>3302018
China knows. The second it won't threaten stability, it culturally cleanses an area. Slow and steady, but always politically and economically going more natsoc.

>>3300529
>literally proven true
>lol but it's a conspiracy tho.
Bet you think MKultra never happened.

Russia didnt tolerate capitalist sympathizers, anyone who said anything remotely anti gubment was gulaged.
On the other side the whole culture of america in the 60's-70's was 'dude communism and drugs lmao the US is like, totally evil'
Holy fuck it hurts cause this era had some of the best fucking music but i cant enjoy it because of that

>>3302466
>Russia didnt tolerate capitalist sympathizers,
Kek. As my history professor put it, there were many theories on why soviet economy struggled. Some said it was the harsh climate, some that country was too big and transportation was expensive. There were other ideas but people who voiced them became otssidents (joke is "sit in jail")

>>3302430
Oh, I'm well aware it can make you good with women. But guys who are good with women generally don't write whining butthurt about how they want to see women back in the kitchen. Not a single guy I've known who was good with women had such anger toward them.

>>3300190
>There is no crises
>what is 2008
>this is what liberals actually believe

>>3303016
2008, is old news my man, 2018 is on the horizon and it's looking like it will end the shadowbank led neoliberal "multicultural, global and connected world" meme we've suffered from since 1970s.

>>3302119
There was racism against meetings down there too

>>3301878
>Are they going to yell when black parents choose "blue eyes, blond hair, white skin" in the form for genetic alteration as opposed to their native physiologies?

No one is gonna do that. Even in Latin America at best they'll go for a Iberian appearance.

>>3293777
Conservatives dont like to hear it, but the main reason for the 50s prosperity was FDRs and Trumans policies, which were straight up socialist. The crisis you mentioned came from gradually dismanteling those.

>>3303143
FDRs and Trumans policies, which were straight up fascist*

>>3293777
Post war boom coming to an end coupled with social issues being egged on.

>>3294067
>I don't see why you are deliberately taking people of color out of the picture
America was like 90% white back then. Some little criminal nigger getting lynched in the Delta is irrelevant.

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>>3293777
>make drugs illegal
>this drives humans to want more drugs because they can't have it
>drug rates skyrocket

Hmm, it's almost as if we didn't learn from Prohibition because we wanted to stick it to the blacks and white hippies...

>>3303111

They're going to do it. And most people will act shocked and surprised...at first. I can already predict a faggotry called "boutique genetics" where shitliberals add the stupidest fucking characteristics to their child.

>baby boy
>Kind...yep
>Sensitive...yep
>Is predisposed to like shitty disney movies...yep
>Puts the rest of the money into "social IQ" or whatever scam the center is running this year

But if shitliberals are as human as anybody else, then their first child will be a POC. White in all behavorial aspects except for skin color.

>Nah no way

Angelina Jolie shittalks about her own biological daughter because she wants to present her "3rd worldlets" to get attention and virtue signal. It's absolutely disgusting but these people have no low.

>>3303143

The main reason was we had an intact industrial base in the midst of a world that committed virtual suicide. If Europe was as pristine after the war, we'd be dealing with the consequences of FDR (at least).

The destruction of Europe underwrote the unions and their salaries. Now we're crying because benefits, promised in that monopolistic environment, are unsustainable for more recent generations. To distill it to a grungy disgusting sort of view, gen x and millennial only exist to pay some shitty postal worker's child sex tourism.

Realize how venal previous generations have been. They sold our world to cum over silicone tits and rape children from countries with unstable governments.

>>3303330
Totally, heroin was A-OK until the mid 70s.

>>3303330
Prohibition "didn't work" because it was half-assed and not really enforced. If you want to see a working drug prohibition look at communist Eastern Block - they had pretty much no drugs there.

>>3302466
>but I can't enjoy it because of that

Fucking pussy.

>>3303338
Now I didn't say that, and I think heroin shouldn't be used at all personally. But the drug usage rates actually went up since the War on Drugs. Just look at the 1980's, cocaine and crack were everywhere.

>>3303334
Europe actually has policies in place that are much more socialist than what FDR did, and for some reason they are still pretty competetive. You dismantle socialist policies, you dismantle the middle class, easy as that.

>>3303344
Who needs drugs when the goverment literally tells you to drink vodka to not die from radiation sickness - something that funnily enough worked

>>3303344
The Soviet Union had partial abolition, you couldn't buy alcohol at certain times of the day. It was more of a "good commies don't pollute their bodies" than "THIS SUBSTANCE IS BANNED". While it did decrease crime, it also made them lose over 100 billion rubles, and alcohol in the black market became a stronger threat.

>>3303468
>abolition

Fuck, I meant prohibition. My mistake.

>>3303344
"really enforced" in that context means of course establishing a huge police state that controls every aspect of a citizens life and citizens having zero privacy nor any other rights to protect them from the government.

>>3303445

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Just because drug usage rates went up after the War on Drugs started, does not mean that the War on Drugs causes the increase in usage.

>>3303481
It's not authoritarian if it targets people the GOP doesn't like.

>>3303493
>Imprison people for possession of drugs.
>People come from somewhere. A missing person can be a weak link that makes the entire chain of the community weaker
>Create propaganda for kids, not realizing that teenagers (aka first adopters) will do the opposite of what you tell them. Because you're the establishment and fucking lame.
>Said propaganda mostly antagonizes and provokes kids to try drugs via the principle of repetition.
>Meanwhile the fucking CIA is importing tons of coke and using intermediaries to turn it into crack.

The war on drugs was never about drugs. It was about having an excuse to intervene in South America under the banner of "muh drugs". Of course if you're in the top 1%, you will never be arrested for drugs bar actually importing them in mass quantities.

>>3303602
It was an excuse to replace Jim Crow with a new regime of oppression, so as to prevent the new black voting bloc from raping the Republican Party.

The Sandanistas and Castro made just as much money off of cocaine as the Contras and Noriega did, so it didn't advance US foreign policy as much as you'd think.

>>3303445
Drug usage rates had been going up since the mid 60s. Corsicans and italian dudes like Joe bonnano had already been flooding america with heroin since the 30s. It didn't just spring up out of nowhere.

>>3303493
The mass-jailing of anybody who took drugs definetely ruined communities. Some young boy tries a drug and doesn't get jailed for it. He will go on to have normal stable life. Some young boy tries a drug and goes to jail for it for several months. He needs to join a gang in jail if he doesn't want to get beaten up and raped everyday. He will still probably get raped at least once though. He will now live on as a psychologically crippled ex-inmate who is integrated in criminal gang-structures.

>>3303612

You don't have to advance anything. One of the favorite strategies of empires is to create zone of conflicts that attract the disgruntled, the miscreant, the soldier of fortune, the luciferian, etc. Sort of a designated shitting area for enemies of the government. So to speak.

It's also mind boggling when you realize that there are rivalries between massive bureaucracies.. The DoD hates the state department and vice versa. The DoD just wants to ensure that trade routes are kept clear. It's as if they LARPed as Pax Britannia but then actually replaced that world picture so that it'd be modest to say we live in Pax DoD. Well maybe "lived".

The state department (and by relation, the CIA) wants to play fuck fuck games because they're venal people in a system where there's little punishment for bad calls. Because they're college professors with a license to kill and a license to give millions to their stupid idea of culture and their stupid worship of novelty. Jackson Pollack would've been a nobody without CIA funding.

>>3302948

>what someone posts on an anonymous message board is what they will say/do in real life

wew

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>>3303666
Don't go snooping into our business.

>>3303016
The housing bubble was due to excessive trust in government regulation which led to the market failing to self-regulate. I don't see how this is related to the alleged tendency of the rate of profit to fall. It is not a "crisis of capitalism", just a regular crisis due to human error.

In 2015 when oil prices dropped and oil related stocks started to drop below a p/e of 20 based on dividends alone I concluded they were a sure thing and bought in. For Chevron this was at about $90, they are now worth $107.76, plus dividends that's 13.7% annualized returns.

If capitalism is in crisis how am I still able to turn a profit almost a decade on?

https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

GDP was back to normal by early 2011, not much of a crisis. I wish I was older and was alive back then. Seeing iphones for the first time after a stock market crash was about as much of a nobrainer as oil.

>>3299067
o

>>3304166
>I wish I was older and was alive back then.
oops, not sure why I wrote that, obviously I was alive and I am over 18

>>3300129
Unironically this. The death of Whig Liberal ideology can't come soon enough.

>>3303143
>White supremacist fascists
>Worked well
I'm shocked.

>>3294173
Direct result of America becoming less white because of the 1965 immigration bill.

>>3298490
Maybe black people are just more inherently prone to violence and lack the capacity of delayed gratification.

>>3303334
Fuck off

>>3304470
Lol down south being black triggered people no matter what you did. Look at the violence and threats they got for wanting to vote and the measures states like Mississippi used to prevent blacks from voting at all.

>>3304489
That doesn't mean black people aren't statistically more likely to be violent regardless of economic or social circumstance, even from America to Africa to Asia.

>>3304478

No u

>>3304531
and you are completely ignoring the massive history and development of the governments and societies of those places and group interactions (and in this case the many many cases of Blacks being unfairly targeted by the authorities during that period in Mississippi).

Black people doing crime does not even render my point null at all. Some people doing crime is okay for all the faggotry the government, bigoted citizenry and citizen groups have done towards their OWN fellow Americans?

>>3304650

I doubt that white males rape 36,000 black females a year.

Oh wait, I have to switch the ethnicities around.

I know black males rape 36,000~ white females a year.

Man that makes me feel pride.

>>3304659
CONT.

>>3304650
You know what every other ethnicity in the US of A does? They go to work and hold stable 2 parent families.

It's almost as if the denial of personal responsibility is concentrated in a single grouping...

>>3304663
CONT.

I mean look at the vietnemese. They went through quite a trauma with that whole vietnam war business.

But unllike blacks, they have a sense of time and a sense of personal responsibility. So they're bit more successful as newcomers than blacks who have had generations to monopolize markets.

>>3304663
Most of the negative demographic traits you see among black Americans are more common in whites than in Asians.

>>3304670

Not per capita. There are more total whites.

But per black person...dude it's a fucking apocalypse. I don't see how any culture recovers from something like a 70+% fatherlessness rate. It's fucking sick because I have nothing against good people and yet, these fucking hooligans ruin the years of goodwill the good people have done for their neighborhoods.

>>3304670


Actually I misread your thing. Blacks still commit the same crimes with a factor ranging from 3x to 14x when compared against other ethnic groups and when per capita is considered.

The fact that whites have more criminality than asians isn't shocking. What's shocking is that we would have some of the lowest rates of murder in the world...if blacks magically disappeared.

>>3293996
that system of gov si fine in the short term (100-300 yrs) but tends to erode pretty quickly afterwards [see all of the western world].

>>3304685
I'm inclined to follow Thomas Sowells logic.

If you throw a bunch of people together, from different cultures and different backgrounds, they will always do differently. Equality is not natural. because the world is random.

I'd caution against genetic explanations, for the simple reason that social conditions have changed to quickly.

For example, out of wedlock birthrates in black America went from around 20% in 1955 to more than 70% by 1995. Black people's genetics didn't change, their culture and living arrangements did.

By the same token, homicide rates doubled in between 1963 and 1970, affecting black communities worst of all.

From 1995 to 2015, the reverse happened, leaving homicide rates back where they were in 1963.

Black people in New York City are dramatically less homicidal than black people in Baltimore. Majority black counties in the Atlanta suburbs are less violent than majority black communities in Michigan.

If genetics is a part of what's going on, it's tiny compared to the forces driving these kinds of changes.

>>3304705
>If genetics is a part of what's going on, it's tiny compared to the forces driving these kinds of changes.
Not really, blacks in NYC are probably further right on the IQ bell curve than the blacks in Detroit or Baltimore.

>>3304705
>Black people's genetics didn't change, their culture and living arrangements did.

Fucking welfare. Killed off their chance to avoid ethnic apocalypse and/or irrelevance.

>Black people's genetics didn't change

Well they're experiencing dysgenic pressure, courtesy of welfare. You haven't seen shit 'till you wait in line and hear a couple of fat women discussing how to leech more money by having more kids.

Dysgenics probably have a lot to do with the destruction of sane black cultures in the past half-century.

And then you have cities which function as IQ blenders (NYC, LA...maybe, SF, Miami, etc) and cities which function as dysgenic wastelands (Detroit, Flint, Baltimore, Saint Louis,...).

>>3304710
IQ itself is connected with poverty, both as a cause and an effect.

Poor Americans don't eat as well when they're pregnant, they're more likely to smoke or drink while pregnant, their children don't eat as well, and their children hear dramatically less words, and read dramatically less words.

All of these things effect IQ.

If a family in Baltimore experiences a near total collapse of family, community, economy, and public services, their children will grow up worse, and end up less intelligent, than a family in New York City, where the economy eventually recovered, working poverty is less common, and parents can raise their children better.

Race, culture, and economics are all intertwined. You can't analyze any of them in isolation.

>>3304738
Environmental influences only account for 20% of IQ, IQ is mostly genetics.

>>3304733
I personally buy Moynihan's argument that the expansion of welfare was a symptom of the collapse of the black family, rather than a cause of it.

From the sixties onward, the amount, and the cost, of the education necessary to provide for a family has been going steadily up.

The city political machines, unions, and low skilled industrial jobs that provided a route out of poverty have been steadily disappearing.

Meanwhile, the sexual revolution normalized sex out of marriage, which was fine for richfags who were smart enough to use birth control, but ruined poorfags who weren't.

If you're interested, this guy was one of the first people to notice the impending collapse of the black family structure and try to figure out why it was happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Negro_Family:_The_Case_For_National_Action

>>3304747
As I understand it, environmental influences can limit IQ, but they can't really raise it. So the less negative environmental influences there are to limit intelligence, the more important genetics are.

Environment would be more important for poorfags than richfags.

>>3304738
>Race, culture, and economics are all intertwined. You can't analyze any of them in isolation.

That's why we use IQ silly! Out of all factors, it has the most correlation with how a person develops. Doesn't mean everything is IQ but out of the other categories (race, culture, etc.), IQ is the racehorse you bet on.

And if a place gets so shitty....leave! This is a general pet peeve with people though. The thought of leaving/running away from a bad situation is frowned upon. You're supposed to face Leviathan with your puny body and your puny mind. Retreat and live to fight another day isn't a bad strategy.

>>3304748
Thank you. Didn't know that existed.

> At various times, the report has been condemned or dismissed by the NAACP and other civil rights groups and leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

The nerve of those fucking cunts.

>>3304756
Poor people are less likely to move to avoid a bad situation than rich people are, because poor people don't have the spare resources necessary to do so.

This is how you end up with places like Detroit or Flint.

>boom town springs up
>black people move in, fleeing the South
>white people in boom town don't like all these black people moving in
>industrial jobs start to dry up, crime rates start to rise, and racial tensions start to get higher
>white people are rich enough to leave
>black people stuck behind
>local government collapses and anyone unlucky enough to be born into the wasteland grows up in a pressure cooker of niggatry

>>3304768

I've been homeless. It's not a massive ordeal to move unless you have an IQ below 90.

Oh wait...

Okay, I see why black people utilized the same strategy they've done in many cities. (Shit in the communal toilet until it overflows. So to speak.)

I'm just not buying the "blacks are equal except environment!". You want to be homeless in a major city to find out? Be my guest.

>>3304782
CONT.

And you have some of the chronology mixed up.
>black people move in, fleeing the South
>crime rates start to rise immediately
>industrial jobs start to dry up and racial tensions start to get higher

Whites rightfully feared black criminality. For a fucking good reason.

>>3304782
Moving would be easier for a homeless person, wouldn't it?

>no family
>no job
>no house
>no social network around you

>>3304705
Its just a coincidence that regardless of income and culture and country, black people are disproportionately violent and criminal? And black haplotypes carry genes linked to violent and impulsive behavior. Despite clear physical differences in bone and body shape, behavior is genetically the same among ethnic groups.

>>3304801
No his chronology was right and it's confirmed by various sources on the matter.

Whites often tried to prevent blacks form working with them at one time a workplace gridning to a stop because Blacks were hired wich apparently sent them into a fit and the factory owner+maangement having no idea what to do.

>>3305521
Are you talking about the Warrior gene? A gene that Chinese people have more of?

>>3305022
>Moving would be easier for a homeless person, wouldn't it?

It's also easier if you're not a piece of godamn livestock who can't make coherent models of the future.

It's like in DnD. People think themselves out of a valid strategy ("Run away and live to fight another day"). People tolerate shit because they suck at judging the value of a thing.

People aren't fucking helpless and yet they also make mind-bogginly stupid decisions. Like staying in Flint or staying in Detroit. If they could think a decade from now, they would leave those areas immediately.


>>3305542
Wow, whites using freedom of association to maintain a harmonious cultural flow aided by homogeneity. Diversity causes conflict. Why was it bad for them to maintain a culture of production suited to their needs?

>>3306373
CONT.

And once again I'll intone. People aren't fucking helpless. They make their own fucking graves. They choose to stand and die for positions that are valueless. People have a lot more agency than your shitliberal portrait of hopelessness assumes.

>why were the 70s so shit
Baby boomers became adults.

>>3294231
The graph shows reported crimes. Law enforcement was until recently a corrupt institution and punching a guy in the face in the 1950s was considered a petty offense unlike nowadays.

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>>3294186
>Exploding labour market. As civil rights and feminism progressed, the available workforce grew dramatically.

I mean, this might explain some clerical jobs and light manufacturing, but that really doesn't explain all that much.

>>3305901
The Chinese have a different version, r3, which is linked to depression instead of aggression, and still appears slightly less than African populations. Not sure what you're specifically referencing.

>>3306373
Do you support the mass immigration that's currently going on in Europe? Those people are only planning for the future after all.

>>3293777
> list of bad things
> widespread contempt for authority
found the fash

>>3307568
>implying be fash is a bad thing

>>3300242
>Yuri Bezmonov
Was a paper boy in India.
Even if he was assigned to high level subversion, he was dealing with a society that still hasn't developed to the standards of America in the 1960s. Almost nothing he says has any value for an advanced consumer society.

>>3293967
Those are great things you faggot

>>3307767
Why not? Explain, using details or examples, why you believe that.

>>3304650
All the black crime stats I see are from the United States of Fuck That Other Guy, or are global averages including the US. Just once, I'd like to see black crime statistics for, say, the UK or Singapore.

>>3301505

What a massive noargument

>>3301771

The same could be said for shooting fascists considering they hate freedom and democracy.

>>3307992
Killing nazis is even more encouraged because we have a historical precedent for them demolishing democracy by undermining it from within. The commies had to resort to a full-fledged revolution to get their way.

>>3307483

The mass immigration is one of those perverse phenomena that radiates from social media. They saw visions of wealth, security, and comfort. Instead of putting their own work in, to make that alluring vision a reality, they just moved to countries which already had it figured out. Not to mention that the native population didn't really have a say but instead was crammed with propaganda extolling how Europe should be more "multicultural". It's one of those things where I feel like I'm in the wrong timeline. It's just that fucked, especially when you're importing mostly men.

But(!), not only men but men with prison sentences and men with mental illnesses of varying severity. You fucking think any of the countries, on the other side of the Hajnal line, are passively looking at this? No, they're saving money but exporting their biggest troublemakers to be another country's problem.

It's clearly a play by the USA to disrupt the EU supply chain and maintain dominance in a NATO-like way. You destabilize countries and they stop being a threat for a while.


>>3307951
In Singapore, congregating in groups of 5 or more for political action (BLM protests, alt-right demonstrations) is against the law. It's also the safest place in the world for women to walk around.

They also have a minuscule number of blacks and those that are residents are probably equivalent to being in the top 2% in the US. I would not be scared of blacks in Singapore and it'd be shameful to insult them.

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>>3308484
CONT.

Note, I used actual fucking intelligence. Even though I disapprove of any place in the US with a majority black population, I can look at Singapore and be assured they're not ghetto welfare bums.

It's almost as if the power to generalize, to discriminate, and to recognize exceptions enable people to make more accurate judgements. Instead of thinking that racism is a form of elemental evil.