Given the social climate of the United States in today's

Malcolm X was based, MLK was too soft

>>3281859
Farrakhan is a filthy heretic, unlike /our guy/ Malcolm X who eventually embraced true Islam.

Define "true equality" first.

>>3281879
Not what Malcom X wanted.

>>3281879
Race becoming irrelevant.

>>3281738
Oh I forgot to add: Should Malcolm X's future for African-Americans have succeeded over MLK's (assuming that MLK's future has even really come to fruition)?

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>>3281738
You just fucking know they're both sincerely thinking
>"traitor"

Pic related is where it's really at. The integrationism of MLK combined with the militancy of Malcolm without the pacifism that weakened the former and the race hatred that infected the latter.

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>>3281738
Neither.

There is no equality between whites and blacks. Biological determinism is real, denying race naturalism is fallacious, and we ought to understand each other accordingly. The only equality along whites and blacks ought to be in the law, yet time and time again blacks blame any discrepancy between them, whites, Asians, Amerindians, on a conspiracy theory of institutional racism.

>>3281892
Race will never be irrelevant

>>3281975
>Race will never be irrelevant

Name a single period in human history when race wasn't irrelevant.

>>3282046
I'm all for integration, but dude. Seriously? Are you going to argue that genocide has never happened?

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>>3282046
>Name a single period in human history when race wasn't irrelevant.

Literally all of human history before the Eternal Anglo decided to destroy humanity.

>>3281975
> conspiracy theory of institutional racism
> White plantation owners got to keep their land after the US Civil War
> Freed slaves were thrown out with nothing but the clothes on their backs
> Post WWII, white veterans were given interest free loans for suburban homes
> Blacks were denied their GI bill
> Zoning laws prevented blacks from even entering the suburbs until the Fair Housing Act
> Even today, majority black 1890 schools receive 1/7 of college funding.
It's only a conspiracy if you're benefitting from it.

Whites are reaping the benefits of centuries of institutional racism. The supremecists in Virginia are only pissed that they now have to compete on level ground, and are losing.

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Let's not forget the influence Stanley "Tookie" Williams, founder of the crips, has had on the events of today. Without gangbaging, race relations would be through the fucking roof

>>3281975
>Amerindians
wat

>>3281975
>blacks blame
>implying they aren't the only ones who make that claim
wouldn't that also depend on politics? Who gets to take all the responsibility for that particular belief?

>>3282136
*are the only ones who make that claim

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>>3282110
No it's only a conspiracy theory if it's a conspiracy theory , and there being institutional racism in every single discrepancy between blacks and other races is ridiculous. Asians faced descrimination as well, and are they in the absolute state of blacks? No
>Freed slaves got nothing while white slavers owners kept everything
Whites in the South were poor already, and that's if there house wasn't burned down by warfare. Everyone was poor.
>Having the GALL to complain about the fair housing act as being the sole reason blacks didn't move to the suburbs
Everything you just listed is completely irrelevant to the modern post desegregation age. In many cases black school are over funded.

You don't have the excuse of living in ghettos or poverty anymore either.

>>3281931

No it hasn't

>>3282062
There hasn't been a single genocide of the entire race, only of certain ethnic and religious groups.

>>3282046
All of the millenia before race was invented in the 17th century

>>3282162
>Asians faced descrimination as well, and are they in the absolute state of blacks? No

Asians didn't face even nearly as much discrimination as blacks did

>>3282110
(Citations needed for modern black college thing)

>>3282170
"Race" was invented as a concept when geographical understanding permitted it, for all 5000 years of history before that it was equivalent to what we now call ethnic-cleansing, and the concept of clan-based biological struggle still applies.

>>3282170

Bs

>>3281738
Um, almost none. Seriously though, if we leave behind economics and look to societal attitudes, there's some dynamics like preference and personal opinions. Caucasian women will overwhelmingly date caucasian men - just one example of societal divides.

That's not to mention the differences in genetics, thought, and mindsets between the races. Hell, I can claim white women are a subset of the white race, from just how different they are.

>>3282113
Just read his Wikipedia link. The amount of people who said he dindu nuffin is fucking astounding. They were actually pleading for clemency for this fucking murderer.

>>3282175
>Asians didn't face even nearly as much discrimination as blacks did
You really know nothing about the history of the Chinese working in the west, do you? They had it far worse than the blacks out here ever did. But that's totally irrelevant anyway because the we both longer live in segregated societies and we've done every possible method to equalize the playing field to the point where we support miscegenation, have hate crime laws, intentionally move people from the ghetto to the suburbs (meanwhile if the suburbs replaces the ghetto blacks freak the fuck out). We have endless amounts of civil rights lawyers, we start massive corporate sponsored HR campaigns dedicated to promoting anti-racism, we have groups that patrol others to get people fired for having racist opinions, and we do ALL THIS while we intentionally ignore neurobiological research and genetics. Despite all of that , we all still self segregate and flee from each other unless one racial group starts LARP'ing as the other (wiggers, Oreos, etc)

At what point do we just start to recognize that we are different people and that race actually makes a difference? That doesn't mean we have to hate each other, it's just recognizing the obvious.

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>>3282184
Biological determininism and the concept of heritability and kinship is something humanity has always had an understanding of, the concept of different "folk" has always existed as well.

>>3282162
>Rich blacks more likely than white
wouldn't this still leave 90% of them non violent?

Malcolm was pen pals with Mr. Rockwell, the american Nazi party official and had his own issues with Jews, particularly how they shoehorned themselves into black political causes included founding the NAACP. He would be copacetic as a fellow racialist.

>>3282235
No, this would be a hard indicator that blacks are more biologically prone to anti-social personality traits regardless of environmental stressors like poverty. This is just incarceration rates, so the actual criminality rates are probably much higher for every ethnic group listed.

That would mean that , no, blacks aren't all violent but they are quintessentially more aggressive than other people, meaning the average black person is more likely to engage in impulsive/violent behavior. This likewise does not mean that blacks are all violent and impulsive either by virtue of being black , because this is on a group basis and not an individual basis.

>>3281738
>true equality between the white and black race

why?

>>3282241
>particularly how they shoehorned themselves into black political causes included founding the NAACP

So what you're saying is, Malcolm X was the good guy.

>>3281738
>/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates

>>3281738
Neither of them both civil rights leaders were autistic.

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>>3281738
>... equality...

EQUALITY IS A PERVERSE CONCEPT; NOONE, AND NOTHING, IS EQUAL, MUTUALLY, OR TO SOMETHING ELSE, ANYWHERE, OR ANYWHEN.

THE STRIVING FOR IMPOSING EQUALITY IS AS DETRIMENTAL AS THE STRIVING FOR IMPOSING DIVISIONS ALONG SPURIOUS CRITERIA —EXEMPLI GRATIA: ALONG ETHNIC CRITERIA, ALONG SOCIOECONOMIC CRITERIA.

>... the white[,] and black[,] race...

THERE ARE NO SUCH RACES.


MALIK SHABAZZ WAS THE BETTER PERSON, AND THE BETTER LEADER; MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR WAS AN AGENT OF CONTROLLED OPPOSITION —WHETHER HE HIMSELF WAS WILLING, OR AWARE OF THAT, IS IRRELEVANT.

Free market capitalism.

>>3283379
Ray, I remember someone asking in another thread if you meditate. What kind of meditations do you do?

>>3282216
>it's just recognizing the obvious.
yeah the obvious like the obvious that race doesn't matter 100% of cases where blacks aren't involved, even from a /pol/ point of view

race discussions, 95% of them revolve around blacks

>>3283410

I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION IN THAT THREAD —GO TO THE ARCHIVE.

>>3283420
>95% of race discussions revolve around blacks
Really only in the US

>>3282216
>You really know nothing about the history of the Chinese working in the west, do you?

I'm literally a Chinese working in the West

>>3281738
Segregation needs to come back
We need to get the SCOTUS to overrule Brown vs Board of Education and Congress to repeal the civil rights acts.
Or better yet, deport all niggers

>>3282345
fuck up

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>>3281738
Equality is a spook

>>3284733
>implying Striner would give a fuck about race
Pathetic attempt to co opt Striner desu