Which paternal haplogroup had the greatest impact on the course

>>3272543
R1b

>>3272545
This is the only acceptable answer

>>3272543
E3b

>>3272543
Y DNA Adam is really in West Africa and not East Africa?

>>3272543
none because haplogroups don't affect anything

>>3272580
It "could" be in West Africa but everyone knows that it's probably in north or east Africa based off the archaeological information we have. OP's map was clearly made to satisfy the negroid kang delusion.

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>literally a golden empire
>omnipotent agriculture
>civic duties building all kinds of structures regularly
>militar and civic administration and organization with just knots
>civilizing the surrounding tribes with the exchange of artisans and the teaching of inca knowledge
>only was beaten by 90% death disease, superior numbers, civil war, rebellions all over the empire, experienced tacticians, 2 divine unlucky events and the strong reinforcement of the spanish army after the campaigns
>15000 years of offset yet superior on some aspects to other cultures
>made the world obese
Q3

>>3272543
J2

Mesopotamia,Persia,Levant,Hittites and Rome

>>3272593
What part of Africa is that dress from?

>>3272627
Rome was R1, as were all other ancient Indo-European civilizations.

>>3272543
N3

>>3272645

This will cause immense butthurt to the Sardinian autist who claims Rome and Etrusca were Sardinian

>>3272649
I've never claimed any of that, it's just that you can't read any of the links or facts that I posted

>>3272593
> No wheel
> Urban centers half the size of more interesting places like Teotihuacan
> Half of what you say is untrustworthy bullshit because we have 0 written records
> Your patethic 15000 year headstart meme is as autistic and retarded as you are, because civilizations could only invent agriculture as a result of cultivating flora that mutated as a result of the ice age
> Politically: a loose federation of Tribes that is comparable to the gauls under vercingetorix, uncomparable to proto nation States and enlightened monarchs of the time
>Architecture comparable to European pre- bronze age architecture minus thé megalithical structures that made it interesting, requires literally zero engeneering skills.
> No accomplishments in the field of any exact science
>Agriculture is Very primitive compared to mayans and aztecs

Okay seriously i think they inca's are An interesting and noteworthy civilization but you shitting up Evert thread made me write this, you are a loser and a rape baby, i sincerely hope you are a direct descendant of a spanniard

>>3272664
>> Politically: a loose federation of Tribes that is comparable to the gauls under vercingetorix, uncomparable to proto nation States and enlightened monarchs of the time

Not him but this is just pain wrong, they had a regular paid army coming from all the territories under the Empire's rule

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>>3272543
It's a toss up between J2 and R1b desu.

>>3272666
Levy of standing army?

>>3272664
>wheel
15000 years of offset. Precolumbian cultures already had the wheel. Stil useless without horses.
>urban center
Gee, I wonder what could happen to the urban center all over the empire from Chile to Ecuador if the same spaniards confirm that they destroyed the sttuctures for materials.
>all bullshit
So you are giving your opinion about something you don't know about? Hmm?
>ice age made agriculture possible
It's pretty much clear that even assuming that hypothesis indoeuropeans have been morphing the environment destroying jungles and woods, and finally getting rid of anything natural that could perturb their settlements.
>politically
Hmm...Another hint that this "guy" doesn't know anything about what he's talking about.
>zero engineering skills
>The hugest irrigation system of the world
>venturi effect discivered 3000BC
>seismic resistant structures 2500BC
>the rope bridges couldn't even be replaced till XX century
Hmm...
>science
>entering bronze age
?
>agticulture
Chinampas were used on the Titicaca lake.

And all of this with a 15000 years of offset without horses.

>shitting up every thread
>"should have genocided those natives"
>"incas w-"
>"stop ruining threads!"
Hmm...

>>3272696
Agriculture existed long before thé Indo Europeans

>>3272696
Cmon incatard don't act like you're not the biggest autist on this board, you do shit up threads

>>3272705
Existed where there were people thousands of years before to morph the environment. The first know crop IIRC is in greece: lentils.

>>3272696
Is entering thé bronzen age all you van say for science

Also
>They where better at a few niche engineering structures only doe their biome that euro's knew nothing about

>>3272710
What are you trying toch say?

>>3272711
Are you french?
Because I've got no idea of what you are trying to say.

I didn't even taunt you fags and the result is the same.

>>3272712
First known crop*

>>3272713
All you van say*

>>3272717
Can*

>>3272714
So what exactly is your argument against the glacial theory?

>>3272719
>what's your opinion about the interpretations of the glacial theory
The glacial period has affected several ecosystems and environments, but trivializing the progress of the human being to just the influence of the climate change to ceratin plants is pretty much delusional.

>>3272718
What was the chalcolitic science of europeans.

>>3272722
Why did agriculture develop around the same time in numerous places then? What's your explanation?

>>3272725
Shifting from previous alloys tot tin is one off the top of my head

>>3272734
The theory puts a single factor: glaciation. The offset between amerindian crops (6000BC) and european crops (10000BC), which is quite a bit. This offset implies that there are more circumstances outside of the glaciation changes, the 37000 years of modern humans towards horse populations, the nomadic lifestyle morphed towards the change of confederations and a need of settlements. The obvious man made environment modification. The difficult coastal settlements due to climate fenomena "Niño". Etc...

Even I ignored the main offset of 25000 years (40000BC europe, 15000BC Americas), so I lowered it to just 15000 years. I could lower the offset to 4000 years as the agricultural beginning can coincide, yet it would still be astounding, the results.

>>3272739
?

>>3272680
?

>>3272593
>>omnipotent agriculture

>>3272645
No. The people living there were and still are majority J2. Germanic rapebabies dont make mucg of a difference

>>3272865
>spanish affirmed there was no starving village or family due to the distribution and equity administration from the Inca empire from the surplus of productivity and storages
>the spanish late settlements managed to live with just those stored foods for years
It's said that today's agricultural productivity is inferior to the Inca period.

>>3272871
Watch out you might trigger the Italian autist who thinks he's Germanic

>>3272871

Why did these J2 move there from the Aegaean?

>>3272543
R1a and R1b.

>>3272543

N3 and O2b.

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>>3272543
Was Europe l1/l2 before the Indo-European R1 migrations?

Was Egypt E3 before the arab invasions?

Why is Greece E3b1 like Nilo-Saharra?

Where did K end up after it went north of the Philippines?

Did O3e arrive in Japan before O2b?

I find it unlikely that distant O2b seafarers from the area of Vietnam, Borneo or Java could have contended with the closer and more populous Korean colonists, enough to put so much Y chromosomal DNA into Japan so they likely arrived first. Another mystery is that O1 inhabits the China Sea islands so you would expect this seafaring group to find Japan before O2b. I speculate Java became excellent traders and sailed past their O1 cousins.

General DNA similarity resembles their neighbors in Korea, so however the O2b colonists got there, they promptly began racemixing with their neighbors.

>>3272909
Those niggas came from Cyprus

>>3272952

>Where did K end up after it went north of the Philippines?

Romania maybe

>Oase

>>3272952
>Was Europe l1/l2 before the Indo-European R1 migrations?
Yes

The last study about the Bell Beaker showed that Western Europe was I2 and G until 3000-2800 BC, then Western Europe become entirely R1b around 2800 BC

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>>3272952
>Was Egypt E3 before the arab invasions?
Egypt was mainly J

>Why is Greece E3b1 like Nilo-Saharra?
Most likely Afro-Asiatic Early Neolithic Farmers

>>3273041
>entirely

>what are South Italy, Sicily and Sardinia

>>3273071
>South Italy, Sicily and Sardinia
Southern Europe

>>3272543
CT, as it descendants actually managed to outgrow their primitive state and develop complex societies
Poor A and B bastards never did

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>>3272871
Wrong.

You may not like it, but the fact is that you got STEPPE'D like the rest of us.

>>3272545
The Chad haplogroup

>>3272545
>Spain has highest concentration of R1b
>never amounted to any development, only war and plunder
Sure

>>3272545
How so? Anglo-Saxons were l1. Germanic tribes that actually accomplished anything were either l1 or R1a.
Steppe input came from R1a folk.

>>3273163
So? J2 is highest in the Caucasus. J1 is highest in the Arabian peninsula. E is highest in Africa. R1a is highest in Poland. Most haplogroups have their highest concentration in shitty places.

>>3273169
Anglo Saxons were a mix of R1a, R1b and I1 just like the Nordics of today. But their R1b mutation is diffrent from Celtic-Brythonic.

>>3273175
Bullshit. They were l1 in majority but with small amounts of R1a. R1b were actually Germanised Celts.

Anglo-Saxon samples are l1. Vikings carried mostly l1 and even N1c, R1b was in minority.

>>3273180
>N1c
Meant to say Q, since they're both mongoloid. lmao

>>3273169
>Anglo-Saxons were I1.
Well I could argue that they were largely R1b, but that's a waste of time because I know who you are and what your opinions on that are.

What I will argue, however, is that the Anglo-Saxons achieved the most after they had settled in Britain, i.e. after they become "modern" British people. Likewise the Germanic tribes achieved the most after they had settled in Germany and Austria and so forth.

>>3273187
Stop with your mental gymnastics. Anglo-Saxons were l1, just like majority of Germanic tribes originally. Deal with it.

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>>3273180
Utter horseshit. Anglo-Saxons were R1b and I1, and had R1a and N1c as minority. This is why GERMANIC mutation of R1b is 30-40% frequent in England.

>>3273193
I already said that I'm not having this argument with you. I've proven to you on /int/ several times now that the Anglo-Saxons were largely R1b, and I refuse to repeat myself to a moronic brick wall once again.

The "Celticised" Anglo-Saxons (i.e. British people) achieved far more than the "original" Anglo-Saxons did. And British people are majority R1b, you cannot dispute that fact.

>>3273198
>>3273199
Look at the germanic fanboys sperg out. You didn't prove shit.

>>3273198
>Anglo-Saxons were R1b and I1,
source?
>The "Celticised" Anglo-Saxons (i.e. British people) achieved far more than the "original" Anglo-Saxons did. And British people are majority R1b, you cannot dispute that fact.
"original" brits were beakers, that's why british isles are rich in r1b.

>>3273205
I see that you have no arguments. This is because you have no intellect or knowledge in this field and acquire all of your "theories" from Slavic nationalist users of amateur genetics forums.

Face it, you copied your entire I1 Anglo-Saxons/R1b-U106 Britons theory from Tomenable on Anthrogoenica. Aside from the arguments he put forward, you have none of your own.

>>3273198
R1b-U106 was found among 2 Britons from the Roman Era

R1b in Europe is linked to Proto-Celts aka Bell Beakers

>>3273206
http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/britain_ireland_dna.shtml#germanic_migrations
>Germanic people brought a whole new set of paternal lineages with them, namely I1, I2a2a-Z161, R1a (L664 and Z284), R1b-U106, and to a lower extent Q1a. Those haplogroups now make up over half of all male lineages in England and Lowland Scotland.

>>3273217
>2
>2
>2
>2
>2
TWO
T W O
I I

>>3273216
You have some persecution complex, you aussieshit.. Nowhere did I say anything about Slavs lmao.

>>3273223
Being buttblasted will not change the fact that Britons were U106 :)

I have some interesting facts.

The closest language to English is Frisian. This is not surprising since Frisians, despite acquiring their name from the original Frisii tribes, are actually the descendants of Anglo-Saxons who did not migrate to England, but rather stayed on the continent. Coincidentally, or perhaps not, the English and the Frisians have the highest frequencies of R1b-U106 in the world.

Another interesting fact is that the Anglo-Saxons effectively completely migrated from Jutland. They were replaced by Danes, who migrated from the Danish islands and southern Sweden. These incoming Danes would have had a higher amount of I1 than the Anglo-Saxons because they were migrating from I1-heavy Sweden. Yet despite this, I1 and R1b are approximately equal in modern Danes. We can therefore conclude that the original Anglo-Saxons were at least 50/50 I1/R1b, with most likely more R1b, as is the case in modern day Frisia and northern Germany.

>>3273220
thanks. i rarely even go to eupedia anymore.
maciamo is a true madman coming up with new theories every day and angela is an unpleasant bitch and when she's on her period, she bans everyone for no fucking reason.

Why are you cringy subhumans so obsessed with haplogroups
It's not like they're relevant anyway.

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>>3272627
>tfw there are mesopotamians and hittites in c. asia, spain and sweden according to this retard
lmao
haplogrouptards are literal subhumans.

>>3273275
>>3273220
>taking eupedia seriously
jesus christ...

>>3272999
seems far fetched even with your trips
>>3273041
Which study?
>>3273066
When did Egypt get J'd?

The R1b and I1 theories are mutually compatible.

The NE part of Germany and NW Poland was I1 while the NW side was R1b, as Netherlands is today.

>>3273163
Spain had the second largest colonial empire after Britain. They were the first ones to discover and colonise the Americas. The Spanish Navy was once the most feared naval force in the world. They were the first ones to circumnavigate the globe.

So they weren't always completely fucking useless like they are today.

Now since IJ has been detected in Gravettian Europe, is it time to acknowledge that J is of European origin and thus all civilizations created by J people can be rightfully claimed by Europeans?

>>3273335
But you do realize that I y-DNA is European while J is Middle-Eastern?

Why is this board suddenly filled with /pol/tards now? I mean they were always here but the quality of posts in the last month has dropped tremendously and there has been a large uptick in activity.

>>3272871
They weren't Germanic rapebabies. Their variety of R1b was U152, associated with Italians and Alpine Celts. It was the haplogroup brought over by the people who became the Latins. It's so fucking amazing the amount of shit that comes out of people's mouths when they have no knowledge of the subject.

>>3273359
>everything I don't like is /pol/
Go away

>>3273350

They have the same origin.
If their common ancestor lived in Europe but the IJ>J mutations happened in say Iraq J would still have a European origin. Haplogroup letters are just letters and we could call them anything we want.

>>3273383
I want you to look at the OP.
>>3272543
No matter which way you slice it, from a historian's viewpoint, this is an objectively stupid question.

>>3273402
SO YU BE SAYIN

>>3273296


The Beaker Phenomenon And The Genomic Transformation Of Northwest Europe

biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135962

>>3273449

Europe has had a civilizing effect on the world for 30000 years

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>>3273466
You got it backwards m8

>>3273508
>Still posting Eupedia maps on 4chan
how does it feel to be a brainlet

>>3273457
So R1b was spread from Iberia not from the Steppe like R1a?

>>3273549

No the paper says the opposite.
Steppe bucks fucked 90% R1b into the notoriously matriarchal, mother goddess worshipping I2/G Basques.

>>3273563
>Steppe bucks fucked 90% R1b into the notoriously matriarchal, mother goddess worshipping I2/G Basques.
So why are haploautists jerking off to R1b again if they got fucked by R1a steppeniggers?

>>3273549
>So R1b was spread from Iberia not from the Steppe like R1a?

Did you even read the study ?

Bell Beaker culture was spread by R1b from Central Europe through genocide and rape

R1b itself is a steppe haplogroup, as for R1a it is a native Eastern European haplogroup

>>3273584
>Bell Beaker culture was spread by R1b from Central Europe through genocide and rape

From Western Iberia

>through genocide and rape

Only in Western Europe, in South Europe it was spread relatively peacefuly

>>3273581
Other way around. Scandinavia and Germany used to be majority R1a until superior R1bs dominated them.

>>3273592

Try to read the paper for fucks sake.

The Beaker """"""""culture""""""" which was some kind of rampant group alcoholism was spread from Iberia to C.Europe without any associated gene flow. It was adopted by a mixture of steppe people and local farmers who were only very remotely related to Atlantic and Mediterranean farmers.

>>3273592
>From Western Iberia
No
They spread from modern-day Ukraine, then they came in Central Europe, finally the Celts conquered and genocided the Iberians creating modern-day Spaniards

>Only in Western Europe, in South Europe it was spread relatively peacefuly
No

>>3273605
This, it's really not hard to understand unless you're a Pole who has a set against Western Europeans.
>Beginning with the Beaker period, and continuing through the Bronze Age, all British individuals harboured high proportions of Steppe ancestry and were genetically closely related to Beaker-associated individuals from the Lower Rhine area.
>Lower Rhine area

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>>3273615
Daily reminder those are your posts. Keep that in mind whenever you decide to look down on other people again.

>>3273625
Daily reminder that you're an aspie who can't tell when people are making sarcastic posts. But I guess that's normal for a Finn.

>>3273634
>I was just pretending to be autistic
Expect you're not pretending, you really have some issues. All it takes is to read the posts you've made in this thread. You treat this very, VERY seriously to the point in which you insult people that know less than you.

>>3273625
Why the fuck do people still push outdated "R1berian" meme? R1b in Western Europe is mostly from the Steppe and Bell-Beakers were ethnically mixed group with some Steppe admixturre.

>>3273644

Russians and Poles have some weird issues with the idea of Indo-European genetic expansion from the steppe into Western Europe that are difficult for non-Slavs to understand.

>>3273642
Come on, I literally used a ";^)" face in one of my posts. Please don't tell me I was being serious.
But yes, I do feel bad about unnecessarily insulting people. It's hard to control the anger that arises from people deliberately spreading disinformation out of hatred and jealousy of Western Europeans.

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>>3273644
>>3273651

>>3273654
Wow, steppe admixture decreases as you look further from the steppe? Who would have thought!
This map is completely reasonable and doesn't prove that R1b didn't spread from the steppe.

>>3273654

Eurogenes David says Basques are 1/4 steppe though. Maciamo probably sperged out again while making this map.

>>3273644
They are remnants of butthurt Poles and Russians that are still bitter about Yamnaya(Proto Indo-European) being 100% R1b

They chilled pretty hard about "R1berian" but every studies since 2009(i'd say) BTFO their theory

>>3273608
ooooh I see, it's another

>I don't know anything about the prehistory of Europe but I feel like voicing my biased white nationalist opinion based on studies linked on 4chan that I didn't understand episode

Bell beaker pottery is first found in Portugal, then spreads to Central Europe and England, it is spread from different people, Iberians spread it south to Morocco and East to Sardinia and Sicily, Central Europeans spread it West to the British isles

>finally the Celts conquered and genocided the Iberians creating modern-day Spaniards

>Only in Western Europe, in South Europe it was spread relatively peacefuly
No

You managed to make two huge mistakes in such a brief sentence

1)No one in 2800 bc was a Celt, according to historians celtic culture sparts with the Hallstat culture around 900-600 bc and maybe there was a Proto celtoitalic language before then around 1300 bc

2)Native Iberians were not genocided, South Iberians and East Iberians spoke PRE IE language well into the Roman age, google Turdetan/Tartessian or Iberian language, and Aquitaine would be spoken in Catalunia and Aquitaine well into medieval times (in fact Basque, which is related to it is still spoken in modern times), Celtoiberians came probably around the iron age somewhere around 900-400 bc and settled only in Western/Central Iberia, while the rest (and coincidentally the most civilized parts) of the Iberian peninsula spoke PRE IE languages

>>3273530
Not an argument

>>3273672
>Yamnaya(Proto Indo-European) being 100% R1b
hardly matters since western european paternal lineages aren't continuation of ancient yamna, but came from beakers.

>The ancient Yamnaya samples are located on the "eastern" R-GG400 branch of haplogroup R1b-L23, showing that the paternal descendants of the Yamnaya still live in the Pontic steppe and that the ancient Yamnaya population was not an important source of paternal lineages in present-day West Europeans.

>>3273685
I think you need to reread his post more carefully

>>3273674
>Native Iberians were not genocided,
Yes they were

Early Neolithic Iberians were I2, G, J and a few E and R1b-M269*(asterix mean without further clade), a few thousand years later it became fully R1b-P312 D27

>>3273691

R1a isn't from Yamna proper either.

Both BB R1b and CW R1a come from a part of the steppe horizon which hasn't been studied yet but which were homogenic with the Yamna proper because of wife swapping.

>>3273702
Note that a founder effect is typical of population movement

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>>3273608
>>3273674
>WE WU KANGZ BELL BEAKER WAS CELTIC THEY GENOCIDED INERIANS

This is Iberia in the iron age... I'm so sorry anon your aryan fantasy is ruined El Argar and Motillas, the main bronze age bell beaker cultures of Iberia were all native Iberians, and the Celtibarian speaking part of Iberia was a minority even well into the Phoenician era, this is after the actual Celts invaded Iberia in the 1st millenium bc, not after your imaginary celts "invaded it" in the 3rd milelnium bc

>>3273702
>Muh haplomemes

>>3273685
In reality they're over 80% European farmers, sorry Chris

>>3273702

No. The R1b in Iberia was of the African type V88.

>>3273720
This.

>>3273720
Just checked and you're right it was R1b-V88

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>>3273714
Pic related, Ramon


Your dear Pre-IE Iberians were everything but R1b-D27

>>3273756
>Muh haplo memes

Autosomically 70% farmer, the rest is mostly hunter gatherer, yamnaya admxiture is like 15-10%, the lowest in Europe after Sards

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>>3273756
>Calcolithic (bell beaker) Iberia WUZ Steppe

lol

>>3273763
>Autosomically 70% farmer

Y-DNA allow you to know who were your ancestors
Admixture allow you to know with who they mixed

Y-DNA is the most useful to define your identity

This thread is confusing as fuck.

>>3273785
I thing this is the single dumbest thing I've ever read

>admixture allow you to know with who they mixed

You do realize that if they mixed with them, the ones they mixed with are your ancestors as well, right?

Retard

>>3273776

What could go wrong when EHG and WHG are forced into the same component once again?


Anyway the steppe DNA came to Iberia quite early in the Bronze Age but after the whole Beakershit died down.

>>3273809
Yeah so I'm right, bell beakers weren't le ebin genocidal steppe negroes who killed everyone in their away, South Europeans remained more or less the same genetically despite bell beaker being widespread there even down to parts of Morocco, only English people were genocided

>>3273797
It is a Spaniard that is butthurt about the fact that his Celtic father came in Iberia, killed Iberian men, and raped Iberian women

>>3273803
Your father is still Celts and so are you, Ramon Mac Spanach

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>>3273833
>>3273809
And probably because English natives weren't as military advanced as their South Europeans cousins

>>3273837
>WE WUZ KANGZ

Calcolithic Iberians were native Neolithic farmers with some extra whg and very little steppe admixture

>>3273833

AoC Beakers and Maritime Beakers have so little in common I think it would be a good idea if the word Beaker was dropped entirely since it only causes confusion.

>>3273833
>only English people were genocided
Fool. Why do you choose to leave out of the French, the Dutch, the Scots, the Irish, and more? What causes this uncontrollable hatred of Anglos you seem to be inflicted with?

>>3273846
Agreed

>>3273849
>, the Dutch, the Scots, the Irish, and more?

Scots and Irish, I meant British islanders, they're all England's bitch today either way so i thought it was implied I meant those as well

>The French

French changed but not as much as the natives in the British isles

>>3273860
Also, why do you act as if this is a bad thing, or some kind of embarrassment? You do realise that this means British Islanders are the descendants of the conquering invaders, and not the neolithic weaklings who were slaughtered?

>>3273845
>Ramon Mac Spanach : WE IZ IBERIANZ I SWEARZ !
>Ramon Mac Spanach : LOOK I HAVE nearly NO STEPPE ADMIXTURE I'M LIKE YOU GUYS !!!
>Ramon Mac Spanach : WHAT ? MY HAPLOGROUP ? MY MTDNA IS 100% IBERIANZ !!!
>Ramon Mac Spanach : I-I'M R1B-D27 B-BUT IN MY HEART I AM A I2 OR EVEN A G I SWEARZ !!!!!!!!

>>3273865
They actually descend from both those groups, though more from the invaders

>you act like it's a bad thing

Not really, where have I said it?

>>3273909
>English people were genocided
Sounds negative to me tbqh

>>3273169
>Steppe input came from R1a folk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture#Eastern_European_hunter-gatherers

>R1b is also the most common Y-DNA haplogroup found among both the Yamnaya and modern-day Western Europeans

>>3274022

That guy is a Pole with a brain problem. He won't listen.

He's not really thought out his ideas about R1b steppe ancestry coming from "R1a women" because that is an implicit cuck fantasy for a Pole, or it would be if properly understood but the Poles brain is so messed up he doesn't comprehend it.

>>3274047
Once again with the insults >>3273625
This is your brain on autism.

>>3274055

Not the Aussie. I just hate Poles.

>>3274064
I've seen enough of your posts to know that you're an Aussie. I also remember the daily spam with "pepe frogs" about R1 superiority aryan blahblah shit on /int/.
If you're not him, then you're as childish as he is, if not more.
Getting emotional and so defensive over the things that don't matter in real life, to the point where you insult others based on their nationality is really showing that you're totally worthless when it comes to any form of conversation, not to mention discussion. You should off yourself, you impotent fuck.

>>3274081
That guy isn't me, though. I am the Australian. I have made several posts in this thread, however.

Also you really have no sense of humour. Toadposting about R1 superiority was just having fun, which I assumed everyone else was doing when they were coming up with crazy theories. I guess I was the only one who wasn't taking it seriously.

>>3274081

Take it easy Poleroach and focus on your fantasies about R1b men fucking Polish women to get steppe ancestry and the impotent and inferior R1a cuckold men being powerless to stop it.

>>3274113
>that projection
>that hostility
R1a is paternal lineage, so there cannot be "R1a women". And Poland was Globular Amphora before IE, which was actually a groundwork for Balts, Slavs and Germanics. . So I still don't know what you're trying to say here.

There is only one option left, you're that stormfaggot Finn, which is even worse than being a haplopolack.

>>3274113
>R1b men fucking Polish women to get steppe ancestry and the impotent and inferior R1a cuckold men being powerless to stop it.
In this scenario Poles would be majority R1b, are you retarded?

>>3274139

I'm Karelian :^)

>>3274170
So the worst from both worlds, nice to meet you.

One the one hand I'm somewhat awestruck by how much hatred I've garnered from people I haven't even met before, but on the other hand I feel pretty bad about it genuinely upsetting that many people.

That being said, I think everyone needs to set aside their differences and accept that they will forever be inferior to the natural overlords of humanity, i.e. R1b-U106 Aryan supermen. The sooner you accept our dominance and leadership, the sooner we can make peace and end this destructive hatred.

>>3274113
If R1a men were cuckolds who didn't reproduce, there would be no R1a today as it can be only inherited from men.

Since Q hablogroup started in Central Asia, are Native Americans Turkic?

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>>3274209

None of that shit happened. It's just one Polish guys fantasy because he's butthurt about Germans raping his grandma or whatever.

Western Europeans have Yamna admixture beyond Corded Ware.

>>3274226
>Germans raping his grandma
Aren't Germans like 25% R1a to begin with? Especially Eastern Germans.

>>3274226
So first you come up with "R1a women" and then you proceed to lecture anyone on anything? How does that work?

>>3274247
Maybe he's referring to women born to R1a men in a population where R1a is the most frequent haplogroup.

>>3274257
No, he's not referring to anything. He's just a braindead finnshit stormfaggot. The usual sperglord of /int/ threads. Yesterday he came up with "Slavs are Huns" theory. He also notoriously jerks off to "Honorary Aryan"

Fucking hilarious. Taking autism to new levels.

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>>3274274

I only like Germans because they decreased the number of annoying Poles in the world. I'm not into Nazi ideology.

>>3273785
So is a 95% R1b black man who had an ancestor that was raped by her R1b slave owner European?

>>3275329
His bloodline and ancestors are Europeans, and he is himself a BLACK'D European, the best would be that he reproduce with Arabs until his descendants reach a good level of caucasoid admixture then his descendants would be allowed to reproduce with Europeans.

>>3275348
Why not just reproduce with a European woman? After all, they are both of the same bloodline and people.

>>3275355
Because he would corrupt our bloodline.

>>3275364
You have the same bloodline as him according to your earlier logic.

>>3275367
Yes, but his bloodline is diluted/damaged and need to be restored.

J1e. Anyone saying any European haplogroup is forgetting to take into account that their entire culture is built upon the tenets of Semitic religions.

>>3272543
East Asia looks all kind of fucked

Who made this?

>>3272543
C3
They managed to build some of the greatest empires without any previous influences. They built some of the largest cities known to man, made massive advances in mathematics, astrology, and agriculture, and managed to survive in one of the most inhospitable shithole jungles on Earth

>>3272664
>Politically: a loose federation
You can say a lot of thing about the inca empire but they weren't by any means a loose federation, they were unarguably the pre-columbian complex society with most resemblance to an old world empire, akin to an egyptian absolute monarchy, where the emperor or Sapa Inca was literally god and wielded absolute power.

J literally created civilization so i will pick that.

E-V13 man invented agriculture and domesticated the dog, goat, sheep, cattle and pig the earliest. Without E-V13 Europe wouldn't be Europe.

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>>3274139
>>3274170
>Polish idiot trying to steal my identity

>>3272543
R1a

>>3276756
R or J.
I saythat as a H2. I didn't even know that haplogroup existed.

>>3272543
That's a retarded thread with retarded question and retarded people in it.

The famous people from each country, that actualy acomplished anything usually don't have the dominant haplogroup from the cunt they're from.

For example. - In Germany it was I2a2a that united Germany and created German Empire.

Q3