I was recently baptized (Orthodox) and I'm writing this

This is /his/ not /blog/

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>>3262491
Then when I climbed out there was more annoiting, and I was given my baptismal cross, it being customary for all baptized Orthodox to wear a cross. Then I was clothed in my baptismal robe, a white vestament, which was handmade by someone in the parish for me--many of our articles are to be made and donation by people from the parish whenever possible, including the Communion bread and the priest's vestaments. After that, I recieved Christmation, called Confirmation among other Christians, which is the recieving of the Holy Spirit. That's something the Eastern Orthodox give tremendous emphasis to, for us the New Testament is as much about the Holy Spirit as it is about Christ, Christ himself even says it is important for him to leave his Apostles so that the Spirit can come. Only with Christmation do you actually recieve the Spirit in fulness, which was represented as dove descending when Christ was baptized. After that, I went back and changed, and was given my baptismal candle, which I lit for my first Communion. This candle is to be kept and used for your funeral. Communion is difficult to describe, in swallowing it I felt as if I were deep underwater and mingled with those near me, and I felt a sense of intense, dispassionate joy. Afterward I was given my baptismal gifts, which included a home censer, charcoal, incense, books, a prayer rope, and several holy icons (which the priest placed on the altar for consecration, I will take them home after forty days).

>>3262491
>o we started with priest breathing on me, then the exorcism: this includes a lot of formulas the priest says for rebuking satan and his demons and commanding them to leave me.

lol /x/tians

If there wasn't any olive oil would that mean no one could be baptised?

>>3262502
No, but it should be used if available

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>>3262491
>/his/
>Religion and blogs

>>3262587
I figured its better than the bicker religious threads

cool

>>3262491
I believe the Didache gives us the clearest instruction on our baptisms. Full body immersion only for adults in a river, triune in nature in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. No river or ocean should be replaced with a bath immersion, and if not that then dunking warm water three times over the believers head. Everything else seems peripheral

>>3263894
Yes, Orthodox rubrics presribe "living water" (river, sea, ocean, lake etc. ) where available. Indoor founts are used only when such isn't close at hand.

>>3262541
>see! it's not dark! we've got windows and chandeliers!

>>3264192
The orthodox faith is too much like a pagan cult that focuses on a showy performance.

>>3264210
Not more than the Catholics. Orthodox are way more somber and are too serious about everything tho.

>>3264192
Don't you do infant baptisms though?

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>>3264210
>>3264210
It's true that we're extremely ritualistic, and we strongly believe that rituals and objects can be holy. However, we certainly aren't just about ritual, more than any other Christians we emphasize personal mystical encounters with God (and in hand with that, we also believe strongly in demons as a force of spiritual deception). And the basis of that mysticism is a radical Christian life and purity of heart and deep contrition.

>>3264214
Yes, reverence is crucial. But on the other hand, we also don't fixate on Christ as a suffering victim, but rather see his passion as putting passion to death as his death put death to death>>3264210
It's true that we're extremely ritualistic, and we strongly believe that rituals and objects can be holy. However, we certainly aren't just about ritual, more than any other Christians we emphasize personal mystical encounters with God (and in hand with that, we also believe strongly in demons as a force of spiritual deception). And the basis of that mysticism is a radical Christian life and purity of heart and deep contrition.

>>3264214
Yes, reverence is crucial. But on the other hand, we also don't fixate on Christ as a suffering victim, but rather see his passion as putting passion to death as his death put death to death

>>3264286
Yes, we always have. Baptism supercedes circumcision, so infants are participants. Also, baptism doesn't just absolve you, it frees you, giving you freedom to resist sin by putting you to death in the flesh. Without baptism we are the slaves of the devil

>you have to take this absurd crap serious because it's part of Christianity
No. It's as absurd as Scientology, you're only not laughed at because a large number of people share your "religion".

> we started with priest breathing on me, then the exorcism
How could anyone with a first world education take this serious? You'd think the guys who blow themselves up in the name of their god are far away and crazy and yet here we have people get blown by their priest and have exorcism.

>>3264309
>Without baptism we are the slaves of the devil
though Baptism is obviously very significant and we agree on this, I presume you don't follow Augustine's view of original sin, for as necessity to baptism children, but do you believe in baptismal regeneration?

>>3264369
>>3264369
My friend, Orthodoxy does not shy away from the fact that Christianity is foolish and even insane from a wordly perspective. We don't see it as "reasonable," and neither did Saint Paul, who said we are fools for Christ. Orthodox Christianity is not "respectable, " we extol saints like Basil the Fool, who ran around naked but for chains. Our faith is 2,000, and we reject change; it's going to be freakish by contemporary standards, it was considered crazy and irrational even by pagans. We do not expect to be "accepted", the Church is either/or, either you embrace it or you're opposed to it; if neither it's because you don't know a lot about us

We do strongly believe that the devil exists, and frankly you cannot have the same faith as the Apostles otherwise.

>>3264427
We believe baptism is the participation in Christ's death. You put your wordly life to death, leaving it behind in the water like a womb. This is an important part of regeneration but you also must receive the Holy Spirit (Chrismation) and the Body of Christ (Communion), both of which are also given to infants. With all three, you become fully regenerated, becoming part of the New Adam

>another super-ethusiastic and way over the top convert to Orthodoxy
Oh boy, you're gonna be in a whole different place a year or two from now.

>>3264448
I was a catechumen for two years before my baptism was green lighted, so I don't think so.

>>3264192
Inconvenience isn't a reason not to do stuff right.

>>3264477
Huh? The Didache says if you don't have living water, use other

>>3264477
>>3264717
but if the Didache showed that the earliest of our Christian brothers and sister doing this, it is only reasonable that we do the same.

>>3262491
Sounds pretty cool tbqh

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>>3262491
>Taking Eastern Orthodoxy seriously.

They are heretic tier, and not even interesting heretic tier, just retarded and stupid heretic tier.

>>3266876
Right, the Orthodox stance, like the Didache, is that living water should always be used if available

>>3266938
That's not even Constantine's tripcode, and I doubt you're a Christian if you have no compunction about posting that

>>3267260
constantine was a TRANNY larping as an orthodox christian girl. I would not appeal to that trip desu

>>3267292
Constantine never claimed to be a girl that I've seen, that's not even a girl's name

>>3267305
towards the end i think he was insintuating that he was a girl. all i remember is that someone caught him on /gif/ forgetting to turn off his trip in a tranny thread larping as a tranny.

>>3267308
I don't believe you or whoever told you. I've never seen him say he was a woman, not once, and it is clear people libel Constantine from your pic. What ridiculousness

>>3267330
>so convinced of anonymous larping trip's righteousness that you start lashing out
holy shit, you're either Constantine yourself or you've never seen the screen cap of him from /gif/ posing as a tranny. I don't really care whether you believe me or not, though, because I didn't really love or hate the guy.

>>3267260
>like the Didache, is that living water should always be used if available
though my question previous beforehand is on the issue of baptismal regeneration. Of course regeneration happens but the problem is, is it the water that regenerates or the faith + baptism that leads to regeneration?

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>>3266938
>Believeing everything he reads on the internet
>Thinks Orthodoxy is the heretics of Christianity

Gold.

>>3262491
Being born Orthodox, fuck you and that bearded cunt that baptised you. Fuck this whole corrupt church.

>>3269486
Haha, sad.

>>3269492
Well yes. Orthodox countries are all poor. That is not a coincidence.

>>3269500
Yeah it dosn't have anything to do with politics or the fact they were left with little to nothing after the USSR, Yugoslav War and what not. South America is all shit is that the Catholic Churchs fault?

>>3268146
We don't speculate on the mechanics of holy mysteries (called sacraments in the west), that's more of a Catholic/Protestant thing

>>3269486
My priest isn't corrupt at all, he's actually alienated wealthy members of the parish by his integrity. The Church doesn't corrupt your country, although if corruption is the norm in your coutry it will impact the clergy, obviously

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>>3264210
>muh just an outward confession of faith

Where Yeshua the Unct was submerged.