https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJ oKhO9G1g Can we nuke normalfags?

Can you show that what they say is wrong?

>>3252656
He was pretty stupid, but then he wasn't remarkable in that regard. He was a pleb tier conquistador, nothing like based Cortes or Pizarro.

>>3252656

Columbus BTFO!

>>3252656
Fun fact: Columbus day celebrates the capital of Ohio, not Christopher Columbus.

I'm not watching the video, but if the thesis is that Columbus was a shitty/tyrannical governor of Hispaniola, disloyal to the crown
and a generally brutal person, it is right.

But I thought it has been mainstream to hate Columbus for some time now.

>>3252656
How are they wrong?

>>3252656
Literally everything in that video is correct.

>>3252703
Its been mainstream to hate Columbus Day for indig rights people, but actually examining the stupidity of Columbus the man is still pretty new.

I mean yeah, he was kind of a monster even divorced entirely from your personal feelings. He did everything for his own glory.

Plus, even if he never found the Caribbean, the Portuguese would've discovered Brazil regardless.

>>3252699
Except the Italian-American population, they still celebrate him since he was Italian.

>>3252705
>>3252678
>downplaying the achievements of a great man just because he murdered some niggers
>judging someone from the 1400s by today's standards

>>3252714
>judging someone from the 1400s by today's standards

he was judge poorly then you double nigger

>>3252714

No because he murdered niggers against orders in order to advance himself. People shat on him in his own time.

>>3252656
he was a based Portuguese spy

>>3252713
Most Italian-Americans live in the city of Columbus.

>>3252714
>judging someone from the 1400s by today's standards
Even in the 1400s they thought that he was a murderous idiot. He was kicked out of the Spanish court because people thought he was retarded and his governorship of Hispaniola was revoked because everyone was disgusted by his cruelty.

The natives drew first blood. You don't need to twist the truth and make Colombo seem even like an even worse person, it's still fucking genocide we're talking about.

I hate these kinds of videos. You can just tell they're aimed at normalfags and littered with subjectivity. No objective analysis at all.

>>3252656
Is that the teacher from the magic shoolbus?

>>3252744
If you watch those and don't follow it up with your own research then you are a normiefag anyway and it doesn't matter. The point of popularizers is to get people interested in the subject, or in this case to expose the widespread misinformation propagated by our terrible public school system.

>>3252750
She's clearly a parody of her, but not the actual character for copyright reasons.

>>3252656
at least they aren't shitting on based cortes

>>3252751
Combating misinformation with more misinformation isn't a good idea. I saw the video, the guy stated that the Earth being round in the 1400s was common knowledge just to discredit Columbus, which is a flat-out lie no matter how you look at it.

>>3252754
Not really a parody. They just gave her the design and that's it.

>>3252761
>I saw the video, the guy stated that the Earth being round in the 1400s was common knowledge just to discredit Columbus, which is a flat-out lie no matter how you look at it.

It's not a lie. The fucking Greeks figured it out a thousand years before Columbus drew breath, anyone educated at that time had read the works of Anaximander and others.

>>3252761
>which is a flat-out lie no matter how you look at it.
Anyone who had studied the Greeks would have known that the Earth was round. In that sense, it would have been common knowledge, at least among educated elite.

>>3252656
>Natives: What's gold?
>wears gold

>>3252679
He wasn't stupid. He was a very capable sailor. Which requiered mastering geometry,astrology and the like

>>3252705
The natives started hostilities murdering the Spanish settlement that Columbus death. The idea that natives were stolerant and cool people is just a dumb thing to jsutify a narrative.
Claiming that he didn't discover America because he never set foot on the US is stupid
Claiming he was dumb is stupid as most people that can't find a restaurant without google maps couldn't imagine how hard was to be a sailor back in the day

>>3252936
Being able to use a sextant and point out the north star is not mastering geometry or astronomy. He was a passable sailor for the time, and he wasn't even close to Henry the Navigator in terms of skill.

>>3252953
Columbus started hostilities by invading. He wasn't asked to come nor to land and colonize. Would you consider it okay if someone camped out in your backyard without your permission and decided to start building a house there?

>>3252955
He found out on his own how important the canary islands were to cross the ocean and was the first person to do an oceanic travel without bordering land,something that the Portuguese didn't do. He probably wasn't the best sailor but he was smart. You don't cath the attention of so many advisors and kings being dumb

>>3252976
He never invaded the islands. One ship sunked so he was force to leave part of his crew on the island for a year. All were death when he returned. I am sorry but the tainos had it coming

>>3252656
>America = USA
>Can we nuke normalfags?
Yes please.

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>>3252761
>the guy stated that the Earth being round in the 1400s was common knowledge just to discredit Columbus, which is a flat-out lie no matter how you look at it.

How many levels of retard are you on? Educated people in Europe have known the world is round since Eratosthenes figured it out in the Hellenistic period.

>>3253010
Educated people isn't "common knowledge."

>>3252708
>you didn't discover the new world because there were already natives there
i hate when people say that. discovery is when you specifically learn and know something you didn't know before. he discovered it in the same way we discovered tobacco. we didn't know about it before and now we do, even if other people already knew it doesn't mean it wasn't discovery

>>3253013
If you lived by the sea you knew the earth was round

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYTXRDtYzYc

>>3252656
> Columbus never set foot in America

Is this a joke? Do burguers unironically don't know that the howl continent is called America?

>>3253139
>>>3252708
Also the word discovery in this context comes from portuguese 'descobrir' and spanish 'descubrir' which now indeed mean to discover, but back then when it was used (first time in portuguese in 1480's) it meant more like explore, it was used as an intransitive verb for instance, like "the king sent us to discover and to get back with good news"

>>3252656
The only people who care about Columbus are filthy wop scum.

God I hate Italians so much.

>>3253550
I'm Polish and we consider Columbus to be Polish.

>>3252714
this is your brain on /pol/ kids

>>3252739
Except it's a worldwide holiday you danm faggot.

>>3252656
I want North Korea to actually pull the trigger.

>>3253586
great argument

>>3253645
In other words, he is right.

Reminder that defending the Caribes is defending literal savage cannibals.

Reminder that the Mexicalis got out easy.

>>3253555
How could Columbus be Polish?

>>3253739
I think he meant Copernicus(Kopernik). Also there is a theory that Columbus was king Władysław III of Poland who changed his identity after Battle of Varna.

>>3253756
I've seen more than once a theory about Columbus being a native Spanish, and not actually an Italian.

>>3253435
>native Americans

Yeah nah, as a cultural group they are gone. That's just a bunch of tanned white people.

>>3252769
Everione knew Earth was round the problem was the size. Greeks were right but Toscanelli a mathematician though it was smaller. Columbus believed in him and though he could reach Asia.

>>3253501
They are retarded for sure but technically several caribbean islands are part of the USA today so the video is wrong in that too.

>>3254460
They're doubly retarded then.

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>>3252656
>pronounces Taino as "Tay-no"
>not Tay-ee-no

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>>3252656
>that part when he says that Columbus "never set a foot in America" because he moronically confuses America the continent with the the USA

Is this dude a literal retard?

>>3252656
As Spaniard I really hope was that way instead of like happened, h8 beaners

>>3256165
Moor detected.

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>>3256238
Don't know lad, let's see where are the Mexicans ...

>>3256301
T. Al Mansur Habibirraman Esteban

>>3252656
>Gay thick rimmed glasses
>Snide nasal accent
>Shit gelled back hair
Easy way to tell someone is a complete fuckwit, the left version of wearing a NSDAP armband

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>>3252656
>see the College Humor intro
>close the tab

>>3253555
Colombus was portuguese, tho.

>>3252741
>He was kicked out of the Spanish court because people thought he was retarded
Until the King bought him back, but I admit that I don't know why he did that.

>>3253555
>>3253756
Yeah but nobody believes that. Historians just like giving weird theoretically possible but not realistic theories. Don't think too much about it.

>>3252744
>>3252953
By all accounts that we have the Spanish drew first blood

>>3256431
Which account?
>Inb4 muh inocent nuhtives were defending themselves

>>3256438
Isn't there account written by a priest who saw this?

>>3256438
By the accounts of Columbus, Francisco de Bobadilla and Bartolome de las casas

>>3256403
Wrong, he was Hungarian

>>3256431
Indians did a false flag to force the help of the Spaniards to remove other indians in the island after Columbus leave in the first travel, Guacanagari said he dindu nuffin and the Spaniards kill other indians instead, also to keep the alliance

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>Columbus never set foot in the modern day borders of The United States of America which didn't even exist until hundreds of years after his death, so he didn't discover america lol

>>3253139
By that logic, we all discovered America, since there was a time when we hadn't learned it existed.

>>3252728
No, he was retarded enough that the Portuguese crown refused his servisse, because Columbus couldn't possibly sail over the Atlantic to reach India. Every reasonable, learned person would know this, Columbus was just lucky that the New World was on his way or he would've turned back empty handed or died at sea like people that didn't suck at math thought he would.

>>3256556
>video made for americans uses america to refer to their country
What a shock.

>>3256410
He wiped out the entire native population of Hispanola. Not just disease, but violence unlike anything seen since Genghis Khan. Even the expansionist Spaniards were sickened. You're right, he was brought back though. Money talks.

>>3252987
Advisors and kings turned him away for being dumb, though, until he found his way into the Spanish court.

>>3254739
He is American. Of the USA. That's what they call their country in common parlance.

>>3256833
Not an excuse
I too use "America" to refer to the USA, but I can differenciate when that name is used for the US from when it refers to the continent

>>3252656
>Columbus didn't set foot on America
>showing that he set foot on South America
Are they fucking retarded?

>>3253606
Ohio's significance is known world wide.

>>3256462
The first blood was done by indians against the settlement of Navidad. Then Columbus went full monkey and enslaved and genocided a lot of natives until he was deposed in favour of Ovando. I know way more than you about the subject so just stop embarassing yourself

>>3257545
If I remember correctly the europeans invaded lands that didn't belong to them.

>>3253606
nobody care about Columbus day outside the USA.

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>>3253606
>Worldwide
Do you believe this yourself?

>>3257548
So did the Mongols, Arabs, Romans, Greeks, Chinese and numerous other ethnic groups did with other lands.

>>3258888
That's why America belongs to the Amerindians.

>>3258904
And the Balkans are a Thracian land, not a Slavic one. Likewise, Iran is a Zoastian land, not Shia land and India is a Dravidian land, not Aryan. Shit happens and the victors in battles of history are the ones that are the rightful owners of a piece of land. It's unfair, but that's the way the world works.

>>3258920
*Zoroastrian

>>3256850
>>3256556
Why are you ignoring on purpose that everyone thinks he discovered the land that is now the country?

>>3258941
Lmao, who is "everyone"?

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>>3252976
The natives didn't even think of land in the way that we see it. Saying how would you feel if someone built in your backyard is naive. They didn't have front or back yards.

>>3258976
The American people.

>>3252741
>because everyone was disgusted by his cruelty.
That is not true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Columbus lost favour in the Spanish court because they didn't realize what they had in the new world and gave Columbus rights that were too good.

>>3258920
So you accept the new mexican occupants?

>>3257548
One ship pf Columbus expedition sunk so some people were left in a settlement. None of them survived when Columbus arrived. Natives started hostilities

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>>3258980
>falling for the "native Americans didn't Believe you could own land" meme

>>3252953
>The natives started hostilities murdering the Spanish settlement that Columbus death. The idea that natives were stolerant and cool people is just a dumb thing
Bit thats why i sympathise with the injuns

>>3259813
All wrong. Invading other's territory has consequences.

>>3259803
How is this ever even an argument? Mexicans haven't conquered the US, and literally never will.
Also, just because people say to get over things that are over and done with, like the conquest of the Americas, doesn't mean they think that white Americans should just give up and accept their new Mexican overlords, or that is is hypocritical of them not to think that way.
It's just a dumb thing I see too often here, and it annoys me.

>>3259842
It wasn't an invasion. They created a settlement in empty land to survive until more ships came. I know that you are a brainlet but natives started hostilities against an enemy that they couldn't beat. They were dumb brainlets that deserved everything that they got

>>3259846
It's pretty simple. America is amerindian land the same as Europa is european land.

Mongrels replacing the cattle people is the first step.

>>3259868
>empty land
All of it was under the influence of that tribe, in otherw ords, invasion.

>>3259879
>influence
Ok whatever. It was probably a false flag for the Spaniards to kill another tribe,and when they came Columbus made no distintions. When brainlets try to manipulate their plots end up backfiring. Indians were brainlets

>>3259883
>kill foreigners who don't have external support
>suddenly people from far away lands come for revenge
Hmm... Amerindians developed at a faster rate than europeans. It's pretty clear who are the brainlets.

>>3253240
Obviously you don't live near the sea

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>>3253550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRkE_Gv6ALM

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>>3252656
8+7=11

what a doofus teehee

communist colleges were the pivotal mistake mistake

>>3252656

He's a walking nu-male stereotype, right down to the hair, the beard and the glasses.

>>3253686
Taino =/= Carribs
And mexicans have nothing to do with them, Jeb!