Why didn't Ottoman t*Rks just conquer all of africa? Did they fear the black warrior?
>>3251008
Because real life isn't a video game, there is a cost to keeping the army in arms, there is a cost to marching them around, there is a cost to having land very far away from your core cities, and you don't want to pay any of these costs unless the land you gain is really good.
>>3251014
So you're saying the "mighty" t*Rks were defeated by homesickness? Wow...
>wanting desert instead of more European land wich is worth something
>>3251019
I know you're trying to trigger the "wh*Te" turk shitposter, just keep the rage until the turk come
>>3251020
So t*Rkey was defeated by some rocks and sand?
>>3251032
By tradition turkey defeats itself.
>>3251025
> 12year olds out
> Proceeds tot post an answer that a 10 year old would write
>>3251219
Did they appreciate the black warrior?
>>3251219
WE WUZ SULTANS N YARRAK
>>3251008
>naming your country after a fucking bird
>>3251340
yes we love BLACK people here
fuck wh*Tes though
Did anyone actually call them Ottomans? Or did they just call them "Turks" or "heathens"?
>>3251389
Ottoman: name of the royality and country
>>3251390
I thought it was a historical term, like the Byzantine Empire.
>>3251389
They were called "Porte", or The Gate, or Gateway.
>Ottoman Sublime Porte
>the Sublime Porte
>Porte Ottomane
These are from documents signed with the British.
>>3251401
This is the gateway, by the way. Its what diplomats saw, since they weren't allowed in (allegedly).
So you go to talk to the sultan, you go "to the gateway", and you refer to the sultan (and his private property, the empire) as The Gate.
>>3251413
In the same documents the people of the sultan are called "moselem members", "mussuleman people" or "mahometans/mohammedans" officially.
But in latin the country was Turcia, and the people were Turci, so "turk" was also used, just not in diplomacy.
Treaty of Sèvres (partitioning of the Ottoman Empire by France and Britain) is the first document where the British diplomats use "Turkey" by the way. So they only called it Turkey after they killed it, maybe meant in disrespect?
>>3251413
Byzantines referred to Turks as Turkmens btw
>>3251429
That was for all the warlords in Anatolia, not just the Osman family.
The turks themselves called byzantines Rum, basically Romans.
>>3251420
The word "turk" was insulting to Ottoman gentlemen, being associated with uneducated peasants and the "primitive" Turkmen, though.
>>3251008
No rivers/long distance from the closest coast. Same reason goes for expansion in Caucasus - except here they were dealing with mountains. Whenever it was there it was temporary because it was impossible to administer such remote regions effectively
>>3251008
Can we stop having this fucking thread every week?
It's retarded and the joke's long worn out.
>>3251396
Ottoman is the anglicized appropriation of the name of the House of Osman, you know the ruling royalty.
But desu tho, no-one calls France "the Bourbons" or Russia/Muscovia "Romanovia". Although Romanovia sounds like a kickass name for a country whose royalty insisted for a longer period of time that they were the Third Rome.
Also this.
>>3251401