>Finland didn't win the winter war
>Zhukov was a genius
These are both obviously objectively false statements.
So what gives with all the general shillposting for the SU lately? leftypol or putinbots?
>>3233395
>Finland didn't win the winter war
>loses territory
>doesn't gain any
>wins
>>323446
Shit bait meme. You don't get a (you)
>>3233395
Finland didn't win though, they just bled the Soviets to ridiculous proportions, and the Zhukov was a genius thing is bomber Harris tier bait that always gets (you)'s
>>3233395
Iam still waiting for someone to prove that Finns won the Winter war and that Zhukov wasnt genius
>>3234553
Zhukov wasn't a genius, he understood the operational level very well but it was people like Rokossovsky and Chuikov who gave them the victories
>>3234559
All 3 of them were geniuses
>>3234757
I think your standard for genius is set pretty low
>>3233395
>implying leftists and putin agree
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sergei-udaltsov-calls-on-communists-to-kick-putin-from-power-t0pttlt5d
>>3234796
Are those quotes real? It'd be hilerious if they are.
>>3234846
Early leftist thought was heavily influenced by American and French revolutionary ideals, it's only when Lenin got in it became highly controlled and even then a lot of national movements rejected it
>>3234784
guy that has beaten Krauts and Japanese in every single battle he fought doesnt seems like a bad soldier.
>>3234922
You're just gonna get stupid shit like "he was making literal bridges out of his men's corpses" and "they didn't even give everyone a rifle"
>>3234922
The losses he took to do so certainly tarnish him, Khalkin Gol is especially bad seeing as he was fighting Japan with BT-5s and 7's when all they had was their shitty Chi-Ro's, his material and personnel losses against an army that eschewed armoured warfare is pretty embarrassing. Zhukov was best at a planning table leaving the fighting to his subordinates
>loses 320,000 men in only 4 months
>only gains enough land to bury their dead
Nice """""victory""""" you got there
>>3235187
>losses territory even when you could get some
>huge economic loss
>Soviet economic puppet for next 50 years
nice victory you got there
>>3234955
War isnt call of duty team deathmatch, when will redditors learn?