Would the Nazis have taken power if Strasser was in charge? What's

>>3228670
Strasser became less anti-semitic in his later years and his Strasserism is virtually the same as the Socialism in One Country that Stalin and Ceacescu did.

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>>3228670
See by yourself

>>3228670
>Would the Nazis have taken power if Strasser was in charge?
They'd never get Zentrum or the industrialists on their side.

No.

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>>3228670
He actually was a good guy but he got outmatched by the Southern NEETlords of the Nazi Party like Hitler

>>3228696
Strasser's quote seems more appealing, any good books on Strasserism?

>>3228805
the quoted guy is goebbels btw, before he was fully converted to the hitler cult

>>3228816
the passage i quoted here
>>3228805
is from ian kershaw's hitler: hubris
strasser was critical to the nazi party's electoral success because he was an excellent organizer. its no exaggeration to say he built the party up from scratch, while hitler was an ineffectual NEET who preferred to give speeches, which only fell on receptive ears in hard times. Anyway, you can skip to the 1920s parts and strasser features in it prominently.

>>3228852
Cool, I'll try to check it out. The early internal Party struggles that the Nazis and Bolsheviks dealt with is interesting stuff, really does seem like in both situations the worst people ended up in charge.

>>3228930
no problem. there's a free audiobook of it here uploaded on the /his/ mega. its in 4 parts

https://mega.nz/#F!8wI0iAbK!H5mfo6CnivegkGkulyTuBg

>>3228670
he put the socialism in national socialism

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>>3229951
This.

>>3228670
How do Hitlerboos defend the purge of Strasserites from the Party?

>>3230208
Hitler was a traitor to the german workers cause.

>>3230295
Was the NSDAP ever actually a "workers" party in the sense that its membership was primarily derived from the working class? I seem to recall reading that it was always mostly based in the petty bourgeoisie.

>>3228670

Strasser would have been far less likely to stake the entire country's future on an all or nothing war, which by itself makes him much more respectable than Hitler turned out to be.

>>3230208

I'm guessing they probably don't even know about it. Anybody who genuinely lionizes the Nazis probably doesn't know much about them and how they operated. I don't think that anybody could read about the fear that the Nazis deliberately instilled in the population via the Gestapo could come away thinking, "yes this is how a nation should be governed."

>>3230208
Hitlerism ruined national socialism.

>>3230295
>>3230368
The Nazi's original electoral strategy was to win worker votes. But by the late 20s this policy had failed badly, with the "socialist" wing of the party failing to make any major gains in the major cities. As the decade unfolded, however, the Nazi supporters and operatives started to look for a new group of voters, and the countryside, such as rural Prussia, looked like a promising political investment. It was. Strasser and Himmler (Strasser's deputy at this point), despite the former's socialist and worker leanings, saw the potential of the rural vote and constructed the machinery to capture rural votes, with tremendous success. This success was made possible, it should be noted, because Germany and the world for that matter already faced a great agricultural depression that struck years before the Great Depression itself. The Nazis promised to ameliorate the small farmers' problems when nobody else promised or did anything before that.

Would Strasser have carried out the Holocaust?

>>3229998
>>3228723
Who is that soldier?

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>>3230368
IIIRC, while they were mostly financed by the middle class they did have significant worker support in some areas, especically in the SA.
Pic related, "The Signboard".

>>3230475
Heh, that's a pretty funny cartoon.

Also, most of these points are pretty standard socialist/populist proposals. It's a shame Hitler's autism ruined "national socialism" in the minds of the average person forever.

>We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
>Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
>In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
>We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
>We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
>We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
>We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
>We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program

>Having achieved national power in January 1933, Hitler and the NSDAP began eliminating all forms of opposition in Germany. In what became known as the Night of the Long Knives, the entire SA leadership was purged, which took place from 30 June to 2 July 1934. Hitler, along with other top Nazis such as Hermann Göring and Himmler, targeted Ernst Röhm and other SA leaders who, along with a number of Hitler's political adversaries were rounded up, arrested, and shot by members of the Schutzstaffel (SS) and Gestapo.[29] Among these was Strasser. Whether he was killed on Hitler's personal orders, is not known.[28] He was shot once in a main artery from behind in his cell, but did not die immediately. On the orders of SS general Reinhard Heydrich, Strasser was left to bleed to death, which took almost an hour.[30] His brother Otto had emigrated in 1933.[31][32]

That Heydrich guy sound's like a real jerk.

>>3230475
Why would the working class find the "National" and "Deutsche" less important than the other components of the party's name? Why would the bourgeoise find it more important than they would?
This seems like communist propaganda.

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>>3230850
I think you might be taking it too literally but anyway
Playing up the socialist, worker's party aspect of the party would pretty obviously be relevant for when you're appealing to a working class that predominantly supported the social democratic and communist parties. Most of the workers at the time might certainly be nationalist by modern standards but appealing to nationalism alone doesn't seem to have won them over. It might be relevant to note that the big conservative, practically reactionary, party at the time was called the Deutschnationale Volkspartei, not exactly a party you want to be associated with when appealing to the workers.

The fear of communism is a large part of what propelled fascism and national socialism in Italy and Germany. It would simply be stupid not to de-emphasise the socialist, working class nature of the party (which Hitler violently destroyed the last remnants of in the night of the long knives) when you're appealing to the traditional and industrial elite. They clearly separated themselves from international marxism despite the socialism in their party name. And of course here associations with the Deutschnationale Volkspartei would be more positive.

Also it does seem to stem from a social democratic newspaper, so it might quite literally be considered a piece of political propaganda but that doesn't mean there isn't any truth to it.

Is it safe to claim that the original NSDAP had socialist elements but Hitler's NSDAP was much less socialist and more fascist in nature, in terms of labor and economic relations?

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Strasser really didn't like Goebbels, apparently.

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>>3231088
I'm surprised anyone did. He literally looks like Satan.

This sounds like the whole Stalin vs Trotsky thing and in the same way people are deluding themselves into thinking one extremist would be better for a movement than the other.

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>>3231583
Stalin and hitler had literally common grounds

>>3230504
>those points
Hmm... sounds like a recipe for, maybe, short term improvement but eventual economic disaster.

>>3231720
Just like a normal socialist platform, right?

>>3231720
>>3231737
Quality of life and national strength should be about more than improving the annual GDP numbers in order to impress global bankers.

>>3231088
He did some rallies with Goebbles in North Germany and probably preferred him to the industrialists at first.

>>3231801
So, are you defending those points >>3230504
or just discard them?

>>3232068
Yes

>>3232122
haha ebin, but seriously, Do you think the national socialist program contained good points or is just doomed to fail in the end, even if they aplicated to the letter?

>>3232145
It contained good points, depending on what you want the economy to do for its citizens. Fairly similar to what American populists were asking for in the 1890s.

>>3232145
The original National Socialist plan was somewhat similar to what FDR did with the New Deal and what Teddy did to the big monopolies.

>>3231720
How so? I have a Burger education and my small brain can only make out the ablolishing of land tax as a bad idea. Explain for the economic illiterate.

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>>3231709

>>3231709
>>3232877
It's funny how before Stalin and the West were on the same side in war cartoonists were so blunt about both Hitler and Stalin being evil fucks.

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>>3234297
Because they were evil fucks

>>3228670
He was too big of a guy.

>>3231088
>bawww I'm getting outperformed it wuz my turn

>>3234469
>Buber-Neumann
>German

lol, she was literally a Jewish communist

>Margarete Buber-Neumann was born Margarete Thüring in Potsdam, and in her youth was active in socialist youth organisations. After World War I she became more radical and joined the newly founded Communist Party of Germany (KPD). In 1922 she married Rafael Buber, communist son of the philosopher Martin Buber, who was Jewish.

>>3235705
What point are you trying to make? She was a German national, the text even mentions some of the 'German Communist exiles' being Jewish.

>>3228670
Strasser did nothing wrong

>>3235689
Not an argument.

>>3230473
A young Otto Strasser, apparently.

>Hitler was deeply jealous of Gregor Strasser. He was the one potential indeed actual rival within the party. He had made the Rhineland his fief. I remember during one tour through the Ruhr towns seeing Strasser's name plastered up against the wall of every railway underpass. He was obviously quite a figure in the land. Hitler looked away. There was no comment about "Strasser seems to be doing well", or any approving sign.

Heh, what a cuck.

Why don't they ever teach about the Strasser brothers and their purge from the Nazi party? You only ever hear about Rohm, if that.

>>3241024

Because TPTB fear that people will look into it and see that fascism and national-socialism actually had many redeeming elements.

>>3231088

Goebbels was originally backing him when he first entered the party, but then Hitler had a little chat with him and got him to cuck out

>>3241054
I'm starting to think this might be true.

>>3241750
>>3241054
the powers that be don't give a shit about the nitty gritty details of history. all they care about is sniffing coke off strippers titties on the weekend. all they need to do is relate strasserism to nazism and it is toxic forever. it's really not that hard desu

>>3234297
Nobody likes Soviets anywhere from the get-go while Hitler was just continuation of the Great War anti-german propaganda, except real.

>>3241757
>all they need to do is relate strasserism to nazism and it is toxic forever. it's really not that hard desu

That's what sucks, you can't even mention a "national socialist" policy platform without being labeled a nazi. Fuck Hitler, he ruined everything with his extreme autism. Anti-capitalist national socialism without Marxist internationalism is literally the perfect system, and yet it will never be taken seriously.

>>3241054
>many redeeming elements.

Yeah, as redeeming as Stalinism.

Strasserism is essentially stalinism, and the idea that it would've produce a better society than the one Hitler created is at best absolutely retarded, at worst pseudo-intellectual historical revisionism.

>>3241843
just look into national syndicalism or anarcho syndicalism or italian fascism desu those don't have the taint of nazism

also, what is really comes down to is that MOST political systems and ideology are not taken seriously today if they do not resemble, participate in or are accepted by our political system and the media through which that system is filtered and airbrushed for public consumption

Eugene Montsalvat translated a transcript of an early debate between Hitler and strasser, Straser actually makes a principled argument against industrialists and Hitler is sperging out spewing ad hominon

Someone should make a Virgin Hitler and Chad Strasser meme

>>3242301
No thanks, there's already enough of that type of cancer floating around now. The new images totally miss the point of the original.

>>3242224
Can you link that? I couldn't find it anywhere.

>>3242769
Dont be such a square dude

So this is the power of Nazi propaganda...

I would watch a Gregor Strasser documentary, seems like an interesting guy and life story.

>>3228852
Hitler got the party funding and outside support by going against Strasser. Even in those days, the party couldn't get such a big hold without all of that money for their newspapers, other propaganda, the SA. Strasser did find Goebbels though, who originally detested Hitler and was a staunch proponent of Strasserism. They both played a huge part in the organization of the party, but like Trotsky with Stalin, he stood in the way of a tyrant who killed him off to secure power.

>>3245839
despite the obnoxious caps, you're not wrong. some strasserists like even goebbels in the beginning called themselves national bolshevists.

>>3245839
You know communism can exist without Jews, right? In the same way that fascism can exist with Jews.

Jews don't fucking abiotically generate in a communist society just because it's communist.

>>3245971

IN GERMANY, AT THAT TIME, THE ONLY ONES STRIVING TO ESTABLISH COMMUNISM WERE JEWS, AND THEIR USEFUL IDIOTS —GREGOR STRASSER WAS A USEFUL IDIOT TO THE JEWS.

IF STRASSERISM HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED BY GREGOR STRASSER, JEWS WOULD HAVE THANKED LITTLE GREGOR, AND TAKEN OVER THE SYSTEM.

>>3245839
>what is non marxist socialism?

>>3246017

NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

DO YOU HAVE A "POINT"?

>>3245982
>THE ONLY ONES STRIVING TO ESTABLISH COMMUNISM WERE JEWS
>who is ernst toller, head of the communist party
fuck off attention whore

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>>3246022
You neither fag

>>3246059
>who is ernst toller, head of the communist party[?]

A USEFUL IDIOT TO THE JEWS.

DID YOU EVEN READ THE REST OF THE POST THAT YOU QUOTED?

>>3246061

"ME NEITHER" WHAT?

All caps guy is here, still trying to figure out if he is EXTREMELY ANGRY or just a broken keyboard.

>>3246072
Just an angry retard with a broken keyboard who likes Hitler because his regime gave him fap material.

>>3228679
>Ceacescu

Redpill me on this guy, did he really do nothing wrong?

>>3246412
Naw, he was a real shit.

Bump for fuck Hitler

>>3245982
>IF STRASSERISM HAD BEEN ESTABLISHED BY GREGOR STRASSER, JEWS WOULD HAVE THANKED LITTLE GREGOR, AND TAKEN OVER THE SYSTEM.

Evidence of this that isn't originating from your ass? Strasserites were just as anti-semitic as other Nazis.

>>3246146
>implying the Soviet's weren't planning to invade in 1941.

>>3249142
They weren't.

>>3248910
>Strasserites were just as anti-Jewish

Strasser, and thus, Strasserism, was not antiJewish, he was only anticapitalistic.

You're an idiot.

>>3250415
>Strasserism, was not antiJewish
except he was very antisemitic, just not in the same way that hitler was

>>3250442
Ok, moron. Keep believing whatever you want.

>>3250450
why the venom? I've actually read something on the subject. What have you read to tell you otherwise?

>>3250442
Strasserism hate jews but not for racial reasons but for their association with globalism, capitalism and international banking.

>>3250461
yes, thats exactly what i said. he wasn't aracial antisemite like hitler but a different kind focused on the economic power allegedly held by jews.

>>3250472
>yes, thats exactly what i said

Nope. You claimed that he was "antisemitic" (what you mean is "antiJewish". They're not synonyms), when he wasn't. He was anticapitalistic.

>>3250415
He hated Jews, but he thought it was capitalism that enabled Jews to act like Jews, while Hitler believed Jews will be treacherous, backstabbing cunts no matter what. I'm more sympathetic towards Strasser but in this instance Hitler was right, just look at what the Jews did in the USSR which didn't have capitalism

>>3250479
>(what you mean is "antiJewish". They're not synonyms)
For all intents and purposes they are in modern day parlance. But I do prefer antijewish is a better blanket term that includes antisemitism (a questionable word in itself coined by an antijewish german guy) so I'll concede that point.

>He was anticapitalistic.
He was anticapitalistic, I never said otherwise, and he had way less obsession for jews than hitler, but he still had hatred for jews. We can only speculate whether Strasser would have passed any antijewish legislation has he won over Hitler (which was never gonna happen imo), but if other interwar dictators are any indication, passing antijewish legislation, which many central and easter european countries did in that time, is a farcry from Hitler's policies (which were more effective since they were carried out by a competent, developed highly centralized state apparatus). Strasser would have definitely been a lot milder because only someone as obsessive as Hitler (and equally important his colleagues who egged him on) would have gone as far as he did on jewish discrimination. But strasser would have done something, its just not clear how much. The Jews were a very very easy target in the great depression so it was irresistable to do something to get demagogic points.

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>>3228670
The Strasser brothers were 100% right about the industrialists. Industrialists didn't care for national socialism at all, note how after the war they immidiately cucked to Western Allies, Hugo Boss now makes apparel for literal faggots and parades around nigger models, Bayer makes contraceptives for western women and contributing to decline of white birthrates, you could continue all day. These people only ever cared for their profit, in that regard they're no better than jews.

>>3250481
>just look at what the Jews did in the USSR which didn't have capitalism
...?

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>>3250515
Stop playing dumb Schlomo.

>>3250518
>posting white army propaganda poster
>implying trotsky ever came close to taking power
>implying he didn't identify as russian
>implying that stalin didn't purge all the old bolsheviks
>implying that the old bolsheviks had ANY power over the fate of the soviet union with stalin's rise to power
stop talking about things you don't know

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>>3250525
>didn't identify as russian
This shit again.

>>3250525
>implying that the old bolsheviks had ANY power over the fate of the soviet union with stalin's rise to power
Lazar Kaganovich was the main guy behind the Holodomor and wasn't ousted from power until after Stalin died. Genrikh Yagoda was the head of the NKVD in the 1930s and ordered most of the purges, but to Stalin's credit at least he purged him too in the end. Both of them were old bolsheviks and ethnically jewish.

>>3250546
>but to Stalin's credit at least he purged him too in the end.
And then Beria continued what Yagoda started. No need to blame it on yagoda's jewish origins. And do you know WHY Stalin purged Yagoda? Because he thought he hadn't done his job properly and botched the show trials and false evidence for the people Stalin ordered killed. You're argument is nothing more than a projection of your need to look find a "jewish villain" behind the soviet system, when it was Stalin who always had control.
>Lazar Kaganovich was the main guy behind the Holodomor
because he was from ukrainian, not because he was of jewish origin, similar to how Lenin gave stalin control of georgian affairs and then proceeded to impose a settlement that wasn't to his liking. you'd have to incontrovertible proof to me that there was a direct connection between lazars jewish origins and his intent to kill ukrainians. Otherwise its nothing more than speculation with tones of conspiratorial antisemitism.

>>3250532
if you seriously think another vile propaganda poster is an argument you need to consider suicide desu

>>3250687
>there weren't any jews!
>okay there were jews but that doesn't count because they officially claimed to be Russian or Ukrainian
Every fucking time with you niggers, the same shit all over again.

>>3250702
>gets butthurt when i implicitly concede in my argument that there were jews
so what if there were jews? that's a tiny concession to make. Its an ENTIRELY different thing to then say that those jews, because of their scheming jewisness, weaved their way into control of soviet government and they were in total control of everything. You haven't proved that at all, and all your butthurt is simply an admission that you CANT find any proof of that, because your anti-semitism is an unshakeable faith that doesn't require proof.

>>3250720
to continue, what about Molotov, who accompanied Kaganovitch on his collectivization campaigns. Is he innocent by the very fact that he was nonjewish? If that's your reasoning your a fucking imbecile. Its the old "goys like stalin and molotov dindu nuffin it was KIKES who ruined everything"

>>3250720
The jews in the USSR were still genocidal maniacs who orchestrated the Holodomor and persecution of Russian and Ukrainian Christians. So this goes directly against the Strasserist meme that jews can be evil only in a capitalist regime. The jews even plotted to kill Stalin despite the fact he saved their asses from Hitler during WW2, they feel no loyalty to anyone and anything.

>>3250728
>The jews in the USSR were still genocidal maniacs
>persecution of Russian and Ukrainian Christians.
there you go again.
is nothing more than
>"goys like stalin and molotov dindu nuffin it was KIKES who ruined everything"
The fact of the matter is is that ALL soviet leaderships, because of the incentives created by the stalinist system, became murderers because that is what communist system created. It didn't matter whether they were jewish or not. Beria just as eagerly carried out Yagoda's work. It didn't fucking matter their original religion. They were all avowed atheists, shithead.
>persecution of Russian and Ukrainian Christians.
Judaism suffered huge persecution under lenin and stalin. This had been shown again and again over many threads, yet you continue to delete out this side of the narrative because "da joos" are responsible for all evil in the world, according to your worldview. You're the same national bolshevik idiot who for god knows what reason hold on for dear life to the most irrelevant ideology ever.

>The jews even plotted to kill Stalin
No proof, just an assertion which, going off all your previous statements, is based in a maniacal need to blame everything bad in the world on da joos.
>the fact he saved their asses from Hitler during WW2
wat? Stalin never cared about saving the jews, their salvation (at least to those very few remaining kek) was only incidental to his kicking the Nazis out of eastern europe.

>>3250751
>the jews were genocidal but this doesn't matter because there were non-jews who were genocidal too!
This is you right now. I was refuting the Strasserist notion that jews would be good boys in a socialist regime, which is patently false. Nothing more.
>Judaism suffered huge persecution under lenin and stalin
Judaism, yes. But not ethnic jewry. Atheist jews like Trotsky and Kaganovich were cosplaying as Russians while systematically eliminating all non-jewish upper layers of society - the intelligentsia, the aristocracy, the kulaks. Which goes in line with their modus operandi where most high offices should be staffed with jews while the non-jews should be reduced to idiotic goyim cattle. Seeing the state Russia was in after the civil war and the famines, they largely succeeded.
>No proof
Doctors' plot.
>Stalin never cared about saving the jews
Defeated Hitler who wanted to BTFO the jews - check
Established a Jewish autonomous oblast - check
Okayed the creation of Israel in the UN - check
Stalin could've easily labeled a Messiah by the jews because no person since Cyrus the Great did as much for them as he did. How did they repay him? By plotting to kill him of course.

>>3250776
>This is you right now.
Indeed, it is. Nonjews and jews are humans, and given the right incentives the two groups can commit crimes against humanity. What a surprise!
>Strasserist notion that jews would be good boys
They could and were. Most jews in weimar germany (500k) had nothing to do with international finance or communism. They voted for social democratic or nationalist parties. They were professionals, civil servants, teachers, small and large business owners. They fought and suffered in wwii just as much as christian germans did. It's safe to say, then, that most jews were "good boys."
>But not ethnic jewry.
a spurious distinction that means nothing. you mean instead of practicing judaism as a religion, that they instead focused on its cultural manifestations such as its cuisine, its language (yiddish), and its artistic traditions? Evil! Ironically, neither Trotsky nor Kaganovich spoke yiddish, which was a large part of ethnic jewish identity.
>eliminating all non-jewish upper layers of society - the intelligentsia, the aristocracy, the kulaks.
again, there's nothing distinctly "jewish" about carrying out communist precepts violently and arbitrarily, as plenty of nonjewish bolsheviks did with equal fervor. and while we know the kulaks and aristocrats got treated ruthlessly, its harder to say whether the intelligentsia suffered, as many people were elevated to the intelligentsia by communist party and many others found advancement in the bureaucracy or the factories that powered industrial growth. But that's to repeat the well known fact that very few people actually experienced the "Terror"; but those targeted classes or high party members who took fell out of favor certainly did.
>Which goes in line with their modus operandi where most high offices should be staffed with jews while the non-jews should be reduced to idiotic goyim cattle.
[citation needed]

>>3250832
>Doctors' plot.
You'll have to show me this is something more than Stalin's paranoia reigniting again, as demonstrated already by his sending hundreds of thousands of returning soldiers to Gulags after vetting them because they were said to be tainted by bourgeois influences abroad (see: solzhenitsyn).
>Defeated Hitler who wanted to BTFO the jews - check
Again, a byproduct. He annihilated Hitler because Hitler attacked his country and nearly destroyed him. He had no choice but to end Hitler.
>Established a Jewish autonomous oblast - check
In a region inhospitable, in the east of Siberia and far away from civilization that some jews were lied to about or even forcibly deported to? How is that a fair bargain?
>Okayed the creation of Israel in the UN - check
A decision he actually came to regret and turned against
> By plotting to kill him of course.
[citation needed]

>>3250832
It's kind of cute how you completely ignore that jews are an ethnicity with a distinct genetic profile. You can easily tell the jew apart from a non-jew by a simple DNA test. That has nothing to do with judaism or yiddish. Vast majority of Israeli or American jews can't speak yiddish - are they not jews now?
>jews in weimar germany
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuYMnYGX3WI

>>3250848
>distinct genetic profile. You can easily tell the jew apart from a non-jew by a simple DNA test.
And? This matters why? Is it surprising that a group legally isolated from other European populations have similar DNA? Shocking, isn't it?!
>That has nothing to do with judaism or yiddish.
We have different definitions of ethnicity. Ethnicity just as much means shared cultural traits and "imagined" shared ancestry than it means genetic similarity. If you're suggesting that shared genetics determines their culture without providing me any proof, then it's nothing more than halfbaked pseudoscientific speculation no different 19th century scientific racists.

>>3250848
>Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuYMnYGX3WI [Embed]
Why should this man's opinion matter? He is not a historian and by his dress he is TELLING the audience he believes in a highly conservative, dogmatic sect of Judaism that disdains other Jewish sects. This is NOT a reliable historical source for German Jews in Weimar Germany, lmao.

>>3250848
>Vast majority of Israeli or American jews can't speak yiddish - are they not jews now?
Yes, because European Jewry was killed in the Holocaust. Before WWII European secular Jewish culture revolved around the Yiddish language. But you wouldn't know that because all you know is memes.

>>3250860
>This matters why?
It's the only thing that matters, really.

>>3250546
>Lazar Kaganovich was the main guy behind the Holodomor
According to whom? Because according to Ukrainians the main guys responsible for Holodomor were Stalin, Molotov, Kaganovich, Postyshev, Kosior, Chubar and Khatayevych. Nowhere is mentioned that Kaganovich is more responsible than the others.

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>tfw Jews died for Germany and then got killed by Germany and now get shit on by manchildren online

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>>3250979

>>3251039
To real man

I wish I knew about this Strasser fellow earlier. This changes everything!

>>3242224
>>3242966
not him, but I guess it is this:
https://institutenr.org/2016/12/30/hitler-vs-strasser-the-historic-debate-of-may-21st-and-22nd-1930-otto-strasser/

Strasser sounds like he wants to apply the Marxist way in his attempt at leading the nation to glory, but Hitler doesn't even hint at socialist tendencies in his personal ideology. After reading this I can't see how Hitler's work post 1930 can even be considered 'socialist'

>>3251275
Thanks for the link, this document basically proves Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The only "socialist" thing he really did was initiate major make-work public works projects in the 1930s. If that's the criteria we use for judging whether a leader is socialist or not then so was FDR.

Guys what if Strasser into Nazi Germany but in a good way and anti-capitalism etc.

>muh anti-capitalist dogma

>>3251242

wtf I love national socialism now

>>3253440
Same, my fellow Strasserpede! MNSGA!

>shilling a failed Nazi

Even worse than praising Hitler.

>>3254869
I mean unlike Hitler he didn't literally destroy Germany and cause the deaths of tens of millions of people. But who knows what would have happened if he got in power.

>>3255342
True

>>3228696
Hitler´s quote sounds like something Kikes would write in Talmud.

>>3257392
kek

>>3228670
No. Poppin and Schliecher invited him to the cabinet with the aim of bring the Nazi party which dominated the reichstag into going along with THEIR plan to create a military dictatorship more along the lines of the Junker style conservatism. Strasser wasn't politically saavy enough to navigate and negotiate with Hindenberg and Schliecher.

Its likely, based on Goebbels understanding, that he would have been happy to compromise and go along with these plans.

>>3228670
>Would the Nazis have taken power if Strasser was in charge?
The Soviet Union, but no Jews allowed.

Was this Strasser guy married with a family? Or was he another fag like Rohm?

>>3259080
He was a fucking Nazi, that's all you need to know.