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Is the Holocaust the most tragic event in world history? >be

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Is the Holocaust the most tragic event in world history?

>be Jew
>fight for Germany in WW1
>be an outstanding citizen
>family is upright and hardworking
>sent to death camp for no reason

>be Jew
>working my potato farm in Poland
>Nazis invade
>send me to concentration camp
>work till I can't work anymore
>get shot

>be Jew
>trying to keep my family safe throughout the war
>Nazis capture us
>sent to Auschwitz
>family separated and sent to other camps
>they tell us we're taking a shower
>people start falling like flies
>last second of life, I realize this will be my family's fate as well
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>>3226676
20th century Russia was far worse than the Holocaust.
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>>3226676
>be Jew
>sent to death camp

Why even live?
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300,000 dead people is not the worst tragedy in history.
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>>3226752
Spotted the Holohoax denying faggot.
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>>3226676
If God had to step in and save you, then I have to think that the slavery before Exodus was far worse. He didn't step and save you from the Holocaust, did He? Besides, the others here are right, check out other mass historical killings. The Holocaust is far from the largest.
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>>3226752

this. hitlerwasrightblogspot says so!
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>>3226676
the holocaust was not the worst thing humans did in history.
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>>3226908
(((Nazis)))=Crypto Zionists
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>>3226928
The worst think humans did was start existing, the second on the list is keep existing.
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>>3226676
>most tragic event is an event bedt illustrated by people not killed spealing about super mega murder masterbaiter machines
Hm
A dog dying is more tragic.
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>>3227025
A single dog dying is worse than millions of people being slaughtered? How, exactly?
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>>3227283
Its more real than a story writer speaking about super murderers when he suevived 6 years in camp.
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>>3226676

"There are three types of people in this
world. Sheep, wolves and sheepdogs.

Some people prefer to believe that evil doesn’t exist in the world, and if it ever darkened their doorstep they wouldn’t know how to protect themselves... Those are the sheep.

Then you got predators who use violence
to prey on the weak. They’re the wolves.

Then there are those blessed with the
gift of aggression and an overpowering need to protect the flock. These men are the rare breed that live to confront the wolf. They are the sheepdog.

Now we’re not raising any sheep in this
family and I will whoop your ass if you turn into a wolf. But we take care of our own. And if
someone picks a fight with you or bullies your brother, you have my permission to finish it.

That true?

Then you know who you are..."

I hated that movie but that's the one scene worth watching. If more boys got this lesson from their fathers, shit like the Holocaust wouldn't happen.

tl;dr stop hiding and start fighting, to be submissive only encourages the tyrant
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>>3227291
So if 99% of people on Earth are killed in nuclear war, it won't be a tragedy as long as one or two people survive to write about it?

>>3227300
Who would be doing the fighting exactly? The Nazis had a pretty powerful military, and the Jews and other groups targeted by the Holocaust were a fairly small minority compared to the overall population of Germany/Europe. Stopping the Holocaust would have needed to start much earlier, it would require that the Nazi ideology never took hold in the first place. Once the population as a whole had decided that they were okay with innocent people being slaughtered by the government, it was pretty much inevitable.
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>>3227337
I dont see comparison between.nukes and an inmate in a camp speaking anout super murderers when he lived for 6 years under internment.
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Fun fact, the guy who developed and weaponized poisonous gasses that German Army used in WW1 was Jewish.
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>>3226908
I find the whole "destruction of the white race" thing utterly ridiculous because not only are these Jewish people white, but the vast majority of their friends, who are not Jewish, are also white. Why would they want to get rid of themselves?

>>3226934
They don't even deny it at this point.
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The holocaust is my the worst thing that we have where done by far. However it is the most talked about because at the time the Germans were enemy no.1
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jews had it coming tbqh

bolshevik purges were worse
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>>3227475
It never happened
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>>3227489
Ill bite the bait. Why do you say so
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>>3227496
Because it's physically impossible to kill 6 million, first of all. And second of all I got redpilled by storm front and the daily Stormer
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If they had just said 6 million jews were shot and buried in mass graves, I wouldn't even think twice about believing it.

The gas chambers/ovens thing is just retarded and it discredits the whole thing for me, desu.
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>>3227337
>Who would be doing the fighting exactly?

Anyone and everyone willing to fight.

>The Nazis had a pretty powerful military, and the Jews and other groups targeted by the Holocaust were a fairly small minority compared to the overall population of Germany/Europe.

That is true but what's the alternative really? Stay put and wait to be slaughtered? Survival rate for partisans in Eastern Europe was probably 40-70% depending on the time and place. Chances of survival at a place like Auschwitz was 10% and dropping on a good day. Resistance already improves your likelihood of survival by multitudes. A "fighting chance" not to put too fine a point on it.

>Stopping the Holocaust would have needed to start much earlier, it would require that the Nazi ideology never took hold in the first place.

Agreed, and had more of the average German been brave enough to stand up the Nazis' petty bullying in the first place, they would have never been emboldened to escalate their behavior.

>Once the population as a whole had decided that they were okay with innocent people being slaughtered by the government, it was pretty much inevitable.

In case, what do you have to lose then? The enemy can't be reasoned with, your only hope at that point is to fight and beat him or the very least wear him down to the point of reconsidering his strategy.
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>>3227496
because i have a tiny penis and im a 16y old brown midget browsing pol!
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>>3227515
It is impossible to kill 6 mil in a day but not over a few years
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>>3227515
>>3227521
I never know when /pol/yps are baiting or actually serious
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>>3227431
>I find the whole "destruction of the white race" thing utterly ridiculous because not only are these Jewish people white, but the vast majority of their friends, who are not Jewish, are also white. Why would they want to get rid of themselves?

I don't know, you tell me why 90% of NGO's smuggling migrants from Africa are financed by Jews? Tell me why the state of Israel was literally giving contraceptives to black jews without their knowledge while financing NGO's dumping them into Europe?

Tell me why Jews who espouse the values of multiculturalism and diversity at the same time lobby for a Jewish state. The same Jews who claim nationalism is a scourge are promoting an ethno state of their own.


Fuck you, there are coincidences and there are (((coincidences))). No one was fucking born hating Jews, in fact I don't hate Jews, but it has gotten to the point where its fucking obvious.

Notice how she's technically Swedish, employed by the Swedish government yet Israel is "we". Fun fact: Sweden has a population of roughly 8 million too.
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>>3227532
You see everyone? 8 million Jews live in Israel. There's no way that six million died if there are eight million living today in Israel.
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>>3227532
You realize that barbara spectre twitter account is fake and run by /pol/ right? Spectre is a literally nobody who mostly cries about palestinians and bitches about israel
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>>3227559
No, I mean, she detracts from the fact that Israel is not taking ANY refugees and is in fact taking precautions such as building walls on its borders to prevent illegal migration. Why would someone arbitrarily be for diversity and multiculturalism everywhere...but Israel.

That's okay, because Israel only has 8 million people and can't take them. But Sweden? Sweden should become multicultural #endwhitepeople
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>>3227568
I love how /pol/tards complain about lies and subversion when actually all they do is lying and subverting.
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>>3227568
>>3227576
Nice damage controll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw

She's just a puppet of /pol/ lmao
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>>3227532
>One jew says one thing
>this is therefore indicative of the entire Jewish race's beliefs

How did your parents fail you this hard?
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>>3227618
>One jew
>one
The founder of the European Jewish Institute.

You could literally get lists and lists but what's the point? You'd still negate it. Just like you'll side step the NGO's shuttling migrants from the coast of Libya.
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>>3227532
>Fun fact: Sweden has a population of roughly 8 million too
Is 20% of Swedish population Arab?
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>>3227624
Not yet.

>According to Eurostat, in 2010, there were 1.33 million foreign-born residents in Sweden, corresponding to 14.3% of the total population. Of these, 859,000 (64.3%) were born outside the EU and
477,000 (35.7%) were born in another EU


Now tell me why that matters? The more the better! Diversity is strength! Right?
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>>3227624
They're getting there anon.
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>>3227620
It's not even a big organization. The name is misleading.
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>>3227647
I like how we went from her being a /pol/ sock puppet to claims of irrelevancy. Keep side stepping.
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>>3226676
>be Jew
>fight for Germany in WW1
>be an outstanding citizen
>family is upright and hardworking
>sent to death camp for no reason
actually it's possible that you could survive the war in Germany in this situation. veterans and the family of veterans were given special priviledges, even if Jewish. In Richard J. Evans's The Third Reich at War, he uses diary entries of a Jewish veteran and former french literature professor. He and his wife managed to stay in Germany because he had served in WWI. sorry I don't have a copy with me right now to find the reference.
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why are /pol/tards so fucking stupid bros?
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>>3227699
I don't know if you noticed or not but this is not reddit

bro
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>>3227659
How is she relevant? She's a random jewish academic
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>>3227735
Yes, she's irrelevant, along with all the Jewish organisations funding NGO's ferrying tens of thousands of immigrant to Europe daily and literally hundreds of Jewish academics fostering multiculturalism and diversity as something to strive for. It's also a pure coincidence that the, for example, the Swedish media is almost completely owned by one Jewish family. White washing never happened until they were cought red-handed. The coincidences keep pilling up.

Collectively blaming a group of people is bad obviously. Unless that group of people are Europeans or Whites. Jews on the other hand can never be held responsible for the actions of other Jews. Individualism when we like it and collectivism when we like it.


The same way the Jews are white when they want to be and a minority when they want to be. Thus when whites are over represented in a certain industry its because of racism/sexism/etc and affirmative action needs to be put in place. When Jews are overrepresented-you're an antisemite for noticing.
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>>3227532
>posting that fake twitter

It's hilarious how pathetic /pol/ is. They make fake accounts and fall for their own propaganda. Truly subhuman.
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>>3227773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ERmOpZrKtw


/pol/ MKULTRA'd her obviously
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>>3227774
That doesn't change the fact that the twitter is fake. Do you not see how pathetic that is you have to make fake twitter accounts and fake tweets and then you repost your fraudulent tweets as proof?
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>>3227774
>irrelevant Jewish whore says something
>therefore it's real

what logic
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>>3227776
>I say its fake so its fake
>I ignore when she makes identical statements in person on television
No, you're the pathetic one


>>3227778
>nothing is happening, ignore evidence to the contrary, everything is a lie
What lack of logic
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>>3227774
>fake twitter account
>random old fragment of an interview
>irrelevant pro-Jewish organization
/pol/ is quite disgusting.
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>>3227785
I'm not just saying it's fake. Look up the twitter account, it's a fake created by /pol/. I've already looked into it. This isn't my opinion, the whole purpose of the twitter account was to do that. It's just like those "Rabbi Chaim Goldstein" accounts that are obvious /pol/ trolls talking about how "European women need to date African men to diversify Europe." Then /pol/ posts their own subversions as proof of a Jewish conspiracy, it's hilarious.

/pol/ is everything they claim Jews to be.
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>>3227532
>Tell me why the state of Israel was literally giving contraceptives to black jews without their knowledge
We never did this you gullible goy faggot. That was fake leftist news. Also don't conflate us with diasporic AshkeNAZI scum. One Ethiopian whore came forward and said she didn't know the birth control lasted 3 months. The bitch drove and picked it up every couple months, that's not "giving contraceptives without their knowledge." Not to mention Israel wants the Ethiopians to have a lot of kids, more Jewish kids is a win for Israel. It's funny how you right-wing faggots fall for leftist clickbait so easily.
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>>3226676
Putting the /pol/ shit aside, everything Genghis Khan was a much larger tragedy. Killed more both in absolute numbers as well as relative, and destroyed countless civilizations, artifacts, libraries, and other things that are now lost to time forever. All they gave humanity was a shitload of descendants of the Khan.
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>>3227789
>fake
>random
>irrelevant
Meanwhile /pol/ is the boogeyman not organisations that get millions in funding from both government and non government organisations and literally promote the destruction of the various European countries.

>>3227796
>I'm not just saying it's fake but I'm just saying its fake


>>3227817
Typical lies. Ethiopian births declined by 20% and coincidentally its then found out they were being given long lasting contraceptive shots without their knowledge or consent. Pure (((coincidence))) again.
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>>3227829
>Ethiopian births declined by 20%
So did everyones faggot. My grandparents had 11 kids each, this has reduced for everyone. Before they were in Africa, they could have a shit ton of kids. In Israel you can't. This is common sense.
>they were being given long lasting contraceptive shots without their knowledge or consent
They weren't though. Less than a dozen women came forward. Most didn't even take the birth control because it was OPTIONAL, but leftist faggots like you don't mention it. They drove to the centers to pick it up every couple months, if that is "without their consent" you don't know what consent is.
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>>3227829
>Ethiopian births declined by 20%
Source?

>>3227825
Different thing, really. No one cared about human rights in 13th century.
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>>3227844
Where are you from?
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>>3227844
But they did, i read countless articles about it, and no naziboo /pol tier sites. actual news sites, give me a few min. to look them up
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>>3227844
Dont even need a minute,
check that google search
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>>3227858
Jerusalem, Israel

>>3227874
Yeah, """Haaretz""" which is just an AshkeNAZI scum propaganda site. No Zionist want to stop Ethiopian Jews from having kids. Only leftist AshkeNAZI parties that are racist, the ones who try to rip Yarmulkes off Yemenite children.
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>>3227844.
>>3227892
Sure thing Moshi
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>>3227768
Israel is condemning EU migrant policies and standing with the Eastern European states opposing them

Most of the NGO's ferrying migrants are Muslim-run and pro-BDS (boycotting Israel)

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-to-attend-Central-European-summit-497812
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>>3227774
Stop justifying lying dude.
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>>3227896
He was right about everything. You are just mad he challenged the AshkeNAZI establishment.
>"The six million Holocaust victims were reincarnations of the souls of sinners, people who transgressed and did all sorts of things that should not be done. They had been reincarnated in order to atone."
>"After all, people are upset and ask why was there a Holocaust? Woe to us, for we have sinned. Woe to us, for there is nothing we can say to justify it...It goes without saying that we believe in reincarnation...It is a reincarnation of those souls...All those poor people in the Holocaust, we wonder why it was done. There were righteous people among them. Still, they were punished because of sins."
Prove he was wrong.
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>>3226676
This must be bait. Off the top of my head the Belarussans probably had it worse. Jews had done plenty to earn the resentment of Germans (they tended to find themselves at the front of communist and other leftist movements), even if it didn't warrant being killed. Even if we're talking about the Holocaust as a whole, it's not "the most tragic event" either in history or even in the century before. It wasn't the worst in human cost, wasn't the worst in brutality, wasn't the worst in terms of destruction of culture and human achievement (is barely even on the list for that one).

TL;DR no you retard
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>>3227915
this lol. never understood why people have sympathy for the Jews. Jewish Bolsheviks kill 66 million Russians and no one blinks an eye. a couple million Jews die and it's the most tragic thing ever... no fuck that. norman finkelstein broke the code on why, it's all about sympathy for Israel. fuck those genocidal maniacs Jews have been more genocidal throughout history than any other ppl it's about time they got what was coming.
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>>3227902
>Most of the NGO's ferrying migrants are Muslim-run and pro-BDS (boycotting Israel)
Yeah, IsraAid is a Muslim NGO.

>>3227906
>they are lies

>>3227914
He's a Jew so by definition wrong.

What do I win?
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>>3227025

It's yet another "stormcunt has no idea what source analysis is" episode.
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>>3227892
>>3227914
Fuck off sandnigger. Go back to Arabia you Judaized Arab cunt. Palestine belongs to Palestinians not you. Just like how Europe belongs to Europeans.
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>>3227930
Do you have any evidence that IsraAid has been ferrying migrants? What are their ships and when have they done this?
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>>3227930
Stop justifying lying. Stop posting fake twitter accounts.
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>>3226676
>Is the Holocaust the most tragic event in world history?
No.
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>>3227939
cry some more ahmed.
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>>3227939
This, tbqh.
Indo-"""europeans""" OUT
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>>3227939
There is nothing Arab about me. I'm part of the Mediterranean Levantine Master Race. The local Ishmaelites who inhabit Occupied Hebron and other crucial parts of Occupied Israel will be expelled once the Hellenists who run the Israeli government are overthrown.

Judea belongs to Jews. Arabia belongs to Arabs. They must go.
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>>3227915
>>3227927
>Jewish Bolshevism meme
>sins of the father
>ethnic hivemind
Kill yourselves, both of you.

If the actions of others living or long dead justify the deaths of innocent jewish children, then I guess i shouldn't give any sympathy to the krispy kraut kids of dresden, should I? After all, they share the sin of their countrymen.
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>>3227927
If it was about Israel the most obnoxious Jews would be Israelis. They're a selfish people but only because they actually have their priorities straight as a country. Selfishness is good, it means looking after yourself and your people first. It's practically your obligation to behave that way. No, the entitled narcissistic cunts are largely in the diaspora. Dunno why, but they are overwhelmingly liberal. I don't think it's a big conspiracy, probably just alienation way back turning into resentment for not only those who they feel wronged them but the very institutions that allowed it to occur. Look at the buildup towards the Romanovs being lynched. Jews in particular were resentful of the monarchy. With some reason no doubt, but that doesn't make it ok. I think those historical attitudes have carried on and has resulted in the general desire to deconstruct and reconstruct the west and its institutions.

I'm sympathetic when people talk about the "Jewish question" (in essence that Jews cause inordinate problems and what to do about it) but where my sympathy ends is when they're condemned wholesale or it's suggested that it's some innate property of being Jewish that makes you a Marxist provocateur
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Should I visit Haifa or Tel Aviv? Haifa seems like the nicer city tbqh
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>>3227973
>the most obnoxious Jews would be Israelis
You must have never met a Moroccan Right-Wing Religious Zionist before.
Source:
>>3227817
>>3227914
>>3227967
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>>3227915
You don't know history.

These "Belarussans" killed during the WW2 were mostly Jews.
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>>3227972
>Jewish Bolshevism meme
Literally the only part of your post even remotely related to mine, so I'll only respond to that (don't even know why you gave me a (you) for one line of greentext). It's unquestionable the Jews were and still are prominent in leftist movements. Doesn't make the movements themselves "Jewish" (you'll notice I didn't say that), but their disproportionate presence is guaranteed to stir up resentment from everyone opposing the movement. Find studies comparing ethnicity and political affiliation. It's not new-Nazi propaganda or Holocaust denial rhetoric. It's factual. If you want to take issue with the facts it should be with what they're used to justify and not the indisputable facts themselves.
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>>3227980
Acre is pretty comfy
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>>3227986
>"Belarussans"
I'm sorry, were the people living in Belarus not Belarussans? It's easier to pretend to have credibility when you're at the very least coherent my friend
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>>3227986
In 1939 there were 375,000 Jews in Belarus, or 13.6% of the total population.[3] Some 246.000 Jews of 375.000—66% of the Jewish population—were killed in Belarus during the Holocaust.[4]


In total 2,290,000 Belorussians died in the war. Most were civilians. Why do Jews keep diminishing the suffering of other peoples?
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>>3228008
>Why do Jews keep diminishing the suffering of other peoples?

Because they have no soul or conscience. This is why I could give a shit less about "MUHH 6 GORILLION." 66 million Christian Europeans were killed by a Government that was 90% Jewish and no one blinks an eye.
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>>3228015
>Because they have no soul or conscience. This is why I could give a shit less about "MUHH 6 GORILLION."
Absolutely 0 self awareness
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>>3227997
I'm just saying that many people killed in the BSSR were Jews. They were the main target of the Nazis.
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>>3228019
>"most" turned into "many"
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>>3228008
66% of Jews and how many percent of ethnic Belorussians died? More than 66%? I doubt it. Also, how many of these 2.290.000 "Belorussians" were actually ethnic Poles?
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>>3227991
>and no one blinks an eye
Did you miss the fucking Cold War? That thing where the democratic west and communist east nearly incinerated each other multiple times with nuclear hellfire over the dangers of the Soviets?

First, there is the matter of time. The Nazis industrialized their genocide, such to the point that in merely a half decade managed to exterminate millions of people while still engaging in total war on multiple fronts (bad idea, btw). The Soviets' death toll while larger (ignoring also the huge number of deaths caused by the German war machine in WWII that weren't final solution related), it was over a much longer period.

Second, the Germans were defeated and the Nuremberg trials brought a lot of evidence into public light. The crimes of the Nazis were laid bare for all to see, complete with confessions. The Soviets never got their trial. The fall of the USSR didn't open up the archives anywhere near as much as western historians would have liked. In fact, access got worse and worse over time. It's very difficult to get a complete picture of the expanse of soviet human rights violations because we simply don't have the documents or the physical evidence for it (Russkies aren't too keen on letting us in to prove their totalitarian government fucking killed a lot of innocent people). Without expanded and declassified archive access, or a large trial to synthesize the available evidence, the crimes of the Soviets will never be as well proven or definitely documented as those of the Nazi's. Besides, it's been so long that so many of those responsible or those who could testify are dead.

There's a reason why, odious as they both may be, the Nazis rank more despicable than the Soviets for most people.
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>>3226676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Lithuania
>More than 95% of Lithuania's Jewish population was massacred over the three-year German occupation — a more complete destruction than befell any other country affected by the Holocaust.

Imagine if there was a 95% chance you were gonna die.
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>>3228015
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>>3228033
There's a 100% chance we're all going to die.
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>>3228040
You know what I meant. 95%, wiped out in 3 years. Systematic AF.
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>>3228033
To be fair though, most of the killing was done by lith collaborators and not the Nazis themselves.
Lithuanians (and Balts in general) are pretty much animals, tbqh.
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>>3228031
>The Soviets' death toll while larger (ignoring also the huge number of deaths caused by the German war machine in WWII that weren't final solution related), it was over a much longer period.
It's not really largel. For example Snyder put it around 9 million (including the famine from 1932-1933).
Roughly half people who died in Gulags died during the war.
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>Before the war, approximately 70,000 - 80,000 Jews lived in Greece; by the war's end, fewer than 10,000 survived. In 1919, the Jewish population in the city of Ioannina was 3,000. On the eve of the Holocaust, it was 1,950. In 1948, there were 170 living in the city; by 1967, their number had dwindled to 92. Today, less than 35 Jews remain in Ioannina.

I hate the Nazis so much. The Greek Jews were an Ancient Jewish community. They were the Hellenistic Jews. Look at this Jewess, she is one of the very few Romaniotes left. They annihilated an Ancient Jewish community because of what some Eastern European Jews did. If we're being honest the German Jews hated the Ostjuden more than the Nazis did.
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>>3228062
Just further indication to where (((Nazi))) loyalties truly lied.
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>>3228015
>90% Jewish

wut
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>>3228024
>the suffering of the over 1.5 million Belorussians is worth less than 250k Jews
Nice mental gymnastics.


Let's talk about how many people died so the Jews weren't completely wiped out of existence.
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>>3228024
>ethnic Poles
Probably zero, since peasants polish-lithuanian weren't allowed to move about in both PLC and the Russian Empire. There might've been some polonized Belarussians, but they weren't "ethnic poles" by any measure.
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>>3226676
>holocaust
>real historic event
wow calm down there buddy
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>>3226676
>>3226752
>>3226777

>Is the Holocaust the most tragic event in world history?

Not remotely...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNK655iUtr0
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What holocaust?
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>>3228043
Pretty fucking awesome.
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>>3227927
There's not source for that quote.
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>be jew
>get kicked out of every fucking nation you settle in for centuries

It's surely a coincidence.
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>>3230159

why do you always bring this kind of misleading information up? if you actually looked up the expulsions and the reasons behind each one, it was usually over trivial stuff like being scapegoated for the bubonic plague; a random shizco knight with "divine" visions that command him to start a pogram against jews; a witch hunt style mob attack because a criminal blamed something he did on the jews; kings exploiting the merchant culture of the more wealthy jews and letting them in for a few years and when their usefulness dried out, they were kicked out, and then let in again for the cycle to repeat adding to the total count; people irresponsibly taking out loans and not paying them back, etc and so on. Why do you /pol/acks have such a vendetta against the Jews? Have you been personally wronged by one? I don't understand why anyone would create and spread false flags and misinformation to try and incite hate against a group of people they probably haven't any experience with let alone a bad experience.
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>>3230197
why do you anti-white cucks want a safe space so bad?
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>>3227849
>Different thing, really. No one cared about human rights in 13th century.
Mauvaise foi. I presume that you don't care about the fate of the new world natives for the same reason?
Fun fact: no none cared about the joos in the 40's neither.
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>>3226676
In terms of percentages, Romani got it even worse.
>Be gypsy in Poland
>Get shot

>Be gypsy in Russia
>Get shot

>Ge gypsy in France
>Get shot

For those few gypsies that even made it to a camp, they were typically there as long as it took to line them up and shoot them.
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>>3230416

Worse than that.
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>Waaaah weep for the victims of circumstance.

Why is victimhood all people know today?
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>>3226676
No. There have been worse horrors.
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>/pol/tards lying and getting BTFO
Nothing new under the sun.
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>>3230487
Ironic of those who take pride in victimhood suddenly using words like "BTFO", that's not consistent with the application of your victimhood principles.
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>>3230501
>Ironic of those who take pride in victimhood
Everyone you dislike is not the same person, my schizophrenic /pol/tard. Not that your point isn't retarded anyway.
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>holodomor did not happen
:^)
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>>3230416
>>3230444

>be me
>have great-grandfather who served in the 101st Airborne during WW2
>was dropped into Eindhoven, Holland fought in and around the town during Operation Market Garden
>read about Settela Steinbach, a Gypsy girl who was killed Porajmos and became infamous because her face was caught on camera by a German film crew taping deportations from Westerbork transit camp
>she was from Eindhoven, same town my great-grandfather helped liberate
>arrested in May 1944, deported to Auschwitz in late July, killed in early August
>tell my grandpa about this and show him the video of her
>tears roll down his eyes, he simply says "we were four months too late"
>turns out his youngest sister was around the same age and they looked a lot alike

I never saw that man cry once in my life and it damn near broke my heart to see it.
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>>3230553
You are very brave to post this.
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>>3230565

I've never told anyone about it until now.
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>>3226676
>Jew
>Hardworking

Lol at whoever fell for this /pol/ bait. Everyone knows that jews are not hardworking
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>>3230197
A Jewish girl rejected me when I was 11 so I had to promote genocide against her family and people
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>>3226676
>Be rich jew
>Fucking over Germany for profit
>Things start to smell bad for us
>Flee to the US
>Laugh alongside my other elite jew friend in NYC upon learning that lower class jews that had nothing to do with our schemes are placed in concentration camps back in Germany as a punition for our crimes
>After the war, use their suffering to obtain Palestine
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>>3227717
>Hating /pol/ is reddit
Next thing you'll be saying that not wanting to literally fellate Gobbels is reddit.
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If the Holocaust was real then it would have been the BEST thing to happen in recent history
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>>3230197
Draining a young child of all it's blood isn't trivial you fucking vampire
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Life as a slave in southern United States was far worse...
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>>3230921

t. Tyrone Kang
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Not really. The Lolcaust was quite fun.
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No. People die from starvation and diseases all the time throughout history.
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>>3231317
Hmm, a small detail is that people were locked in camps where they depended on those who kept them under lock to be fed though. Also, it's curious how starvation and typhus had a preference for jews over other prisoners. And I don't see how starvation and typhus explain people being shot or gassed for their religion, oh wait, I assume that wasn't real, right?
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>>3230244
>When you have no real response so you just meme.
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>>3228526
>probably zero
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Belarus
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>>3231445
>Also, it's curious how starvation and typhus had a preference for jews over other prisoners.

You're not serious are you?
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>>3232206
What did you interpret that I meant?
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>>3228033
>tfw the three stooges were Lithuanian Jews and their families probably died
F ;-;
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This thread is good, bump.
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>>3226777
>>3226908
>>3227530
>>3227576
>>3227699
>>3227789

Look at the emotional anti white cucks having a shit fit whenever their safespace is disturbed
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>>3233772
you mean what you're doing right now?
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>>3233790
Why are you anti white cucks shilling so hard?
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>>3233805
aw, triggered lil pussy.
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>>3233806
>calls others triggered
>wants an anti white safespace
You shills are pathetic
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>>3227431
>I find the whole "destruction of the white race" thing utterly ridiculous because not only are these Jewish people white, but the vast majority of their friends, who are not Jewish, are also white. Why would they want to get rid of themselves?

Because they preach race mixing for everyone BUT THEMSELVES. Why would you even think they claim to be white, as soon as they get put in a corner for being white they turn to the 'b..but I'm jewish!'-argument.
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>>3227530
Why gas them, when there are so many more convienent ways to mass kill people. People don't need that much to die. But no let's put them in a room, equiped with the necessary systems for activation the Zyklon B pellets (which needed a special system to be used, as explained by the vendor) and gas-tight doors, instead of just burning them like ISIS does now.
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>>3233953
Shooting them puts alot of psychological strain on executioners
Also there was only a select group that were gassed,most other were starved
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>>3233934
>Because they preach race mixing for everyone BUT THEMSELVES.
Proof?
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>>3233969
>Shooting them
Were did I say shooting?
I said burning.

>starved
Yes, tends to happen when there is a food shortage
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>>3233815
He never said anything about safespaces

>projecting this hard
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>>3233995
Look for it yourself, they don't exaclty hide it from you. You have access to internet, use it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiqyOsv6LfI

For promoting race mixing, just look at media. For example, advertisements show way more mixed couples then are representative.
Youtube has a lot of video's on statements of zionist jews in high positions promoting race mixing. Barbara Spectre is only one of them, but is a strong example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
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>>3226676

It does make you wonder, though. Imagine if Americans hadn't been so selfish about their "neutrality" and had declared war on Germany the same time that Britain and France did. Just imagine how many lives could have been saved.
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>>3234011
Gassing was a special case
Also it seems that starving really particularly targeted this one specific group if that was the case
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>>3234046
Imagine if Chamberlain hadn't needed to declare war on Germany for invading Poland because of some Polish-British common defense pact. Just imagine how many lives would have been saved if world war II never occured.
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>scapegoated for the bubonic plague

There is ample evidence nowadays to suggest that """merchants""" brought the plague with them on sea vessels which helped it spread.
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>>3234084

>Hilter wuz gud boi he dindu nuffin
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>>3234065
>Gassing was a special case
That wasn't what they first claimed. Just like the total amount of jews that died. Now that they have been proven wrong, the numbers and methods changed several times for several camps. But that's not what the public gets to know, as my little sister gets the 6 million + gas chambers story told at school.

>Also it seems that starving really particularly targeted this one specific group if that was the case.
I would like a trustable souce on that before I blindly believe those claims.
Not that it's impossible, if there is a food shortage you could focus food distributions to non-jews, but that hypothesis doesn't make it real.
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>>3234108
I didn't even claim he had a legit reason for invading Poland, what are you on?
I only claim Chamberlain was reluctant for starting a war, but was pressured to because of the pact.
Way to make assumptions..
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>>3234113
2.5 million gassed, 2.5 million shot, 400.000-700.000 starved/dying of typhus. Roughly six million. This is the official narrative.
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>>3234113

That's not remotely surprising. The history books get revised all the time in response to new research or new information.
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>>3226676
Slavery of africans
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>>3226676
>Barely 6 million death
>Not even half of that was jailed for a long period
>Got killed in the most human way physically possible, with a bullet in the head for a million and by gas for most of the others
Not even in the top 10.
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>>3234144
This. The brutality of the Arabic and Atlantic slave trade was far longer.
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>>3234137
Stalinism death toll's going down, Hitler's going up.
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>>3234146
If you include other victims of Nazi crimes the number would be at least 12-14 million.
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>>3234146
>gas
>humane
It took like at least ten minutes for them to die.
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>>3234159

Bloodlands makes the case for roughly 14 million non-combatant deaths in Eastern Europe during the war, 2/3 of which can be attributed to Hitler, the remaining third applicable to Stalin.
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>>3234172
What about Yugoslavia and Western Europe?
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>>3234166
It would depend of the gas used but the agent in zyklon B take much less than that to kill you unless you are around the DL50.
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>>3234137
Yes but that 'new research' should've happend before they made those rough claims, based on 'this many jews went it, this many were alive when we liberated the camps, so a - b = 6 million death. I tgrossly dishonest to make claims on such grounds without doing some real historical investigation worhy of the name 'historian'.
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>>3234191
Of course. Same with Stalin. 60 million? 20 million? Completely made up numbers. Including the great famine it's unlikely that more than 10 million died during his regime.
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>>3234191

>'new research'

It's just new research. There is no reason for any strained emphasis.
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>>3232206

Why did non-Jewish prisoners in the same camps not suffer the same level of starvation and disease as Jewish prisoners? Why did Allied military prisoners not suffer the same level of disease and starvation as Jewish prisoners? Weren't they all connected to the same supply network?
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https://youtu.be/U6fmcXouVxg
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>>3234033
>A jew here and there promotes an idea
>somehow this means EVERY jew is in on it
This is why people don't take you seriously. Are all men rapists, too? Are all white people responsible for American slavery?
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>>3234166
That was because of the massive chambers and the amount of people in them, the concentration was not high enough for a quick death, but the intent was there.
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>>3234191
>that 'new research' should've happend before they made those rough claims
Some research started immediately after the war but for a long time people kind of had other problems, with the whole continent lying in ruins. It also took some time to find and analyze sources, and much only surfaced daces after the war. It makes perfect sense to publish based on incomplete data as "this is what we know, this is what we think". In history you don't know what other sources might come up, it doesn't make sense to "wait". Wait for what? You don't magically know what sources existed in the first place much less what sources survived and are lie undiscovered somewhere.
It didn't help that most of the holocaust took place in communist Europe where research was very difficult.
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>>3234146
Dying by gas is extremely distressing psychologically. Dying by cyanide specifically is very painful and takes a couple minutes.
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>>3235332

No dude, if you start off with a rough estimate and then researchers refine it over time then that's proof of a conspiracy!!!!!!!!! [satire]
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>>3230568
You haven't had to fabricate it until now.
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The Jews are a tribe that have been insular and unassimilated among other peoples for 2,000 years ever since their diaspora. Their diaspora was not triggered by Roman greed as the Jews want you to think but rather a Jewish genocide of Romans.
I could go on, but the simple truth about the Jews can be wrapped up in a single concept- they view all others as lower indivduals and their false altruism is a front for pushing agendas that suit them. The Jews themselves have an inward nature not apparent to others but known to other Jews, a cultivated mindset passed on to their progeny. You can see this as Jews continuously sought to deconstruct the European identity through emigration (Hart-Cellar Act), Feminism (Betty Friedan, Bella Abzug, Gloria Steinem), the destruction of the European mind through media, and so on. This has the manifold benefit of both revenge and making the masses more controllable by creating false sides to argue against each other- the Jew has no real political ideology beyond the one of the self and the tribe. A good example of this is how Sheldon Adelson, a "Republican" billionaire who donates tens of millions who is also a rabid Zionist and Haim Saban, a "Democrat" billionaire who also donates tens of millions and is also a rabid Zionist, work together in concert controlling both parties for Israeli benefit.
The problem with this age is people assume because they are more knowledgable about the natural state of this world that they also are more knowledgable about the state of man- wisdom cannot be replaced by given facts. So many of our predecessors, great minds such as Marx, Voltaire, HL Menchen, Luther, the teligious and irreligious, the left and the right warned us about the Jews.
The Jews use the Nazis as a straw man to hide this wisdom and experience. I suggest /his/ should look deeper.
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>>3226706
>Stalin purges jews from party and gov in Great purge
>purges jew dominated NKVD next
>?????????
>muh 60 gorillions!
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>>3226676
Horrible for sure, but pretty overrated.
The end of classical antiquity is a far sadder, but more abstract event in my opinion. A lot more people probably died, too.
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>>3234046

Sorry we didn't want to lose more of our own and be dragged into saving eurofaggots from themselves, again.
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>>3234046
>Imagine if Americans had taken the brunt of the war instead of the Soviets, fighting a nation halfway across the world that was no military threat just to save my people.
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>>3235444
German Jews were pretty well assimilated
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