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I notice that a lot of anti-Irish sentiment in the 19th-century

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I notice that a lot of anti-Irish sentiment in the 19th-century US came from other European immigrants to the US, rather than from native-born Americans of that era. Eg, Thomas Nast loved to bash the Irish, and he was an expat from Bavaria. What motivated this animus?
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>>3220689
Pro-Anglo bias + classism tied with ethnicity.
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>>3220689
Religion had a part too. The Catholic Irish (and also the Italians but their 'swarthy' complexion was the main point of prejudice there) were seen as intruders in a 'Protestant country' in a way that other immigrant groups from that period like Germans and Scandinavians weren't.
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1. Catholic culture was seen by puritans as promoting alcoholism and general low-bred attitudes
2. Irish laborers were high in number and uneducated, giving Americans a poor impression of them
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>>3220689
>Smokes
>Loves a good drink
>Carries weapons
A true blue American patriot by today's standards.
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>>3220863
>le puritans
I hate this meme. Puritans haven't been relevant in America since the mid 18th century and if it wasn't for Tocqueville nobody would parrot this meme.
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>>3220900
Okay kid whatever you say, just a wild coincidence that the most violent expression of anti-Catholic, anti-Irish, anti-Italian, anti-Jewish, anti-socialist, and anti-alcohol sentiment in the US was a WASP enclave
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>>3220913
>anti-Catholic, anti-Irish, anti-Italian, anti-Jewish, anti-socialist
Other than anti-Catholic this has absolutely nothing to do with Puritans.
>US was a WASP enclave
Yes, and the vast majority of WASPs were Episcopalians who were always hated by the Puritans, with a smaller Presbyterian minority. Puritans haven't even been in charge of the shitty colony they founded, much less the entire nation.
>kid
I'm in my 30s.
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>>3220689
Immigrants tend to flock towards unskilled labor and a willingness to work in professions/conditions that the natives aren't, hoping to bide their time and ubild up capital and eventualyl break into higher strata of society.

Their main competition are other groups of immigrants, not the natives, and a new wave of Irish (or whomever) coming in are most likely to immediately impact the second to newest wave off the boats.
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People forget this now because the Irish have been so thoroughly anglicised but back in the day they would've been a very visible minority. They dressed very strangely, spoke a weird language (and even when they spoke English they held onto the weird grammatical quirks of their own language), and practiced a very low-church form of Catholicism that might look slightly pagan to the untrained eye.
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>>3220689
Nast and other Protestant germans were Republicans and hated the irish who were mostly democrats.
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>>3220913
puritanism was primarily a New England phenomenon. Has nothing to do with WASPs.
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>>3220875
Don't forget

>talks shit with his black neighbor
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>>3220913
>KKK
>Puritans
Get lost brainlet.
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>>3220913
>anti-Catholic
Yeah, they were Protestants. Good work there.

>anti-Irish, anti-Italian, anti-Jewish
Fucking WUT

>anti-alcohol
The Puritans were drinkers. Alcohol was an unavoidable part of life for them, and they also viewed it as a blessing. Hell, one of the earliest construction projects at Harvard (established by Puritans) was a brewery. The rum trade was one of New England's most profitable. The Puritans were Reformed Protestants coming out of England in the 16th and 17th centuries. The temperance movement was a 19th century phenomenon.

This is a level of historical ignorance that simply baffles me.
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>>3220900

you realize that still in the late 19th century school children in boston were punished if they attended Christmas?

also, the secon awakening with al it's evangelical sects and reformism (anti prostitution, anti alcohol,...) played a large part.
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