What did the U.K. gain from fighting World War 2? >w-we stood

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>>3207259
protected europe from fascism and anti-freedom, and showed what a dying empire is capable of to a belligerent fool who thinks he can conquer europe ez pz and get away with it

>>3207259
The NHS

europe was divided for half a century, the wet dream of Nigel and they used this time to, actually they havent used it for anything

>>3207283

You didn't read the question. I didn't ask how moral we looked standing up to Germany, I asked what we GAINED from it.

It probably was a lot harder for them to predict what the outcome would have been for them if the axis won, even if they were part of the axis.

What they "gained" from fighting the nazis was a predictable outcome.

>>3207259
As with most things in Europe it was to preserve the balance of power in Europe, I didn't end how they thought it would but that was the initial idea anyhow, in the end nothing was 'gained'

>>3207259
Having an ideological enemy located thousands of kilometers to the east instead of offshore. Remember the only thing that made Seelowe impossible was a lack of time and more pressing concerns to the east.

>>3207324
prestige, and freedom
hitler would have no doubt conquered the uk if he was given the chance, luckily germs don't know how to make a proper airforce or navy

>>3207342

>declare war on someone
>surprised when they want to conquer you, even after rejecting a peace offer

Hmmmm. You wouldn't happen to be a boomer, would you?

>>3207259
>strengthened alliance with France and US
>non hostile Germany
>didn't need to pay for poor countries anymore once empire gone
>beveridge report paving way for free health care
>more socially mobile and wealthy population in long run

why control an African country's wealth when they'll just give you it for a pittance worth anyway and just call it fair trade

>>3207259
Hitler would have become the first leader of a united Europe, dwarfing everything the UK could possibly line up against the united power Germany, Italy and France.

>>3207259
Preventing Germany from becoming the dominant force in Eur- oh wait they failed at that too.

>>3207630
>strengthened alliance with US

That is rather fancy way to say:
>became America's vassal state

>>3207259
>regained honor from betting BTFO at Munich
>dismantled their biggest enemy on the continent
>achieved permanent peace in Europe
>post-war economic boom
>restoration of British values
>Germany reopened to British markets

Nice try /pol/

>>3207381
>declare war on someone
It was Germany who declared war on Poland you retard

>>3207674
that came later in historical context it wouldn't be till the suez canal crisis that became apparent who was the new dominate power

>>3207259
Nothing, which is probably why you tried avoiding war and appeasing Shitler for so long.

>>3207324
Because you can enforce your agreements and go to war for your allies or you could be like Hitler and prove to the rest of the world that your promises aren't worth the paper they're written on. Of course you turned into cucks because Stalin was bigger and scarier than Hitler so you let him have Poland anyways. Also power politics, UK foreign policy has always been to make sure nobody on the mainland became too powerful.

>>3207690

And subsequently the U.K. declared war on Germany, when they needn't have. Stop avoiding the point like a dribbling spastic.

>>3207781
You haven't answered the original question yet.

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>>3207686
this
>>3207259
>>3207840
>>3207844
>only want to hear the answer you want to hear
>>>/pol/
you can circlejerk there

>>3207840

>needn't have

Apart from having promised to do so very loudly and clearly?

>>3207844
I literally did. They interfered because the policy of the nation was to keep the mainland from being United and too powerful. If you choose not to defend Poland you send a clear message to the rest of the world that your word means nothing and that you can't be trusted.

What did the G*rmanic have to gain from throwing Europe into chaos twice, first creating the Soviet Union then allowing it to conquer half of Europe giving it the power to start proxy wars all over the world and stifle progress?

>>3207686

>permanent peace in Europe

WW2 led to communism spreading throughout Eastern Europe and the Balkans to be a nationalist mess

>>3207259
Pride that let them view the end of their empire (which was going to happen one way or another) as a burst of heroism rather than a flaccid retreat from various nations that they had held under the whip.

>>3207336
And the complete lack of air and sea dominance necessary

>>3208040
You know, like with the Czechoslovakia.

after this though the British had enough and finally grow a pair to tell Germany that enough is enough.

>not an argument
Helping to depose a war mongering douchebag that failed to uphold any agreement when his country started a war 30 years earlier is definitely an argument.

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>>3207259
The true answer is what every state ever wants from fighting a war: SECURITY.
If Germany (or any European nation) can dominate Europe, they can build a fleet and invade the British isles (as they have no need to build a huge army to battle other European nations and will also have the economic power and resources of a continent). Therefore British historical foreign policy is two fold:
1. Have a big fucking fleet
2. Make sure that no nation in Europe can build a big fucking fleet
You achieve the first by being an island (spend less on army and more on navy whilst continentals do the opposite)
You achieve the second by supporting European nations fighting against said European power (WW1, WW2, Napoleonic wars ect)
Its a sound policy that has worked for almost 1000 years.
All Anglo perfidy has been just.

>>3207259
Not getting invaded by Germany.

None of the countries that were occupied by Germany had a very pleasant time, so that was a positive outcome.

>>3208256

Hitler wouldn't have invaded us if we hadn't declared war on him. What would be the point?

>>3207283
>protected europe from fascism and anti-freedom
because the USSR was a bastion of freedom, right?

>>3208588
Basically that is a poor assumption to make.
What did Britain gain out of the war? Removing Germany from a position of military power. Germany had already been the main instigator of one world conflict, and now a similar highly militarized and aggressive Germany had emerged from the interim, with the Nazi's committal to Lebensraum and their highly organised and militaristic society it was only going to be a matter of time before some form of conflagration was started up again. The whole acts of appeasement by Chamberlain and the French in regards to first the re-occupation of the Rhineland, Anschluss of Austria and then further on with the claimed reclamation of the Sudentenland from the Czechoslovakian's and then full conquest of the entire country proved that an ideologically driven Nazi Germany would engulf the surrounding European powers if not kept in check. The red line was Poland and the Gdansk corridor, Hitler wanted to repatriate the Prussian part of Poland awarded to them at the end of the Great War, and if he had respected Czechoslovakia it is likely the Allies would have allowed him to reclaim without too much protestation. The actual invasion of Poland with the intent of conquering territory it what set the wheels in motion for the war.
It was not waged from a moral position, but rather a position of security against expansionist German's.
Interestingly enough had the German's likely left Poland alone and waged war against the USSR it is likely the Allies would have supported this, in the hopes that the Germany would have destroyed her military power fighting the Soviets, and that as a counter, the Soviets in their own rights would have been conquered, thus removing the threat of international communism. Something the British and French were equally at odds with.

>>3208588
Eastern Europeans were oppressed under communism. They would have been exterminated under Nazism.

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>>3207686
Came to post this. Fucking pol wants to circlejerk until we "admit" the Nazis were the gud guys.

>>3208256
>>3208531

Not only this but Germany never had any possibility of actually invading the UK, there's this thing called "the sea" in between, makes it very hard to get tanks there without naval and air superiority.

>>3207259

Alliance forged in WW1. Really there was no need for Britain to risk it all for the sake of Belgium and Poland but for France, our newest Best Friend? It was worth the effort.

>>3209052
If I recall, the RAF was exhausted, but luckily retard Hitler chose to give up after their resilience

>>3208531
The USSR was invaded by Germany first, and they had a non-aggression pact with Germany.

I'm still gobsmacked at how good Dunkirk was. Really hit home. These guys, the British, were the good guys.

>>3208531
I doubt Britain would have declared war on Germany if it seemed likely that war was avoidable.

The British army wasn't up to par, the government was unwilling to spend money on it etc. But Germany was well up for a continental scrap; rearmed and then some, invaded Czechoslovakia and Poland. And as nice as it is to be separated from Europe by the sea, the British can't afford to be totally uninvolved in what goes on there.

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This. It also indirectly gained technology, Cold War tensions, and a radically changed political landscape.

Later, it would gain an ally in West Germany.

>>3207259
>What did the U.K. gain from fighting World War 2?

finally got rid of the Empire

>>3207324
>>3207259
The moral high ground.
Its a tried and true anglo tactic.

>>3207840
Poland and the UK had an agreement. The noble seed of albion kept true to said agreement. Also punishing the Germans is always fun.

>>3208121
Britain wasn't allied to them.

It delayed German dominance of Europe.