Why is capitalist propaganda so laughably bad and unappealin

>>3206921
Capitalists don't have to put much effort in their propaganda, since the superiority of capitalism is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.

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>>3206921
because capitalists have no arguments against communism other than "it doesn't work xD", not to mention capitalism only appeals to 1% of the country so its kind of hard to appeal to anyone

>>3206921
Ayn Rand doesn't represent capitalism, she represents an insane fundamentalist sect of libertarianism.
Also this: >>3206929
Capitalism doesn't need good propaganda. It delivers a quality of life the superiority of which is obvious.

>>3206937
The basis of communism is theft though.

>>3206921
The Chinese businessmen isn't a "capitalist" because he read "the fountainhead" when he was 15, it is because he lied about his age to work in construction so he could support his disabled mother and after a few years figured out there was money in renting out construction equipment then after more years of saving money and hard graft he built up a small business so that his children wouldn't have to grow up in poverty like he did. Capitalism is a success because it works, not because it is an ideology.

Thus, capitalist "propaganda" is the product of a tiny minority of memesters while soviet propaganda was a concerted effort by a regime with a lot of resources at its disposal.

>>3206941
Being forced to worship Mussolini and go die for him in a losing war is a good standard of living?

>>3206948
you can say the same thing about capitalism as well
https webmshare.com/MJOOZ

>>3206962
Even if we count fascism as being a form of capitalism, the average capitalist society is still more prosperous than the average communist society.

>>3206973
How is capitalism theft? You get to keep the produce of your work.

>>3206962
Its supperior to starving under your kike capitalist overlord

>>3206962
Cont. And another thing: what is more common, totalitarianism in capitalist societies, or totalitarianism in communist societies? It's not like there are no communist versions of Mussolini. Far from it in fact, communist history abounds with totalitarian monsters.

>>3206977
Not him but that's not quite true. Most of that is taxed. And (((corporations))) that most people work for get 99% of the funds. It's a ponzi scheme really.

>>3206973
>doesn't deny it
That's wrong though. Capitalism is based on voluntary labour contracts and an increment of holistic valor due to the trade of less-valuable things for more valuable objects.

>>3206986
>Most of that is taxed.
Blame government for that, not capitalism itself.

>>3206986
That has nothing to do with capitalism though.

>>3206937
The major problem with communism that it is based on envy, and the only reason communists have is "muh equality!11111111!!!", and they demand "equality" because they are envious.

And according to those envious greedy bastards - if nine people live great and one is starving - then it is bad, if everyone is starving - then it is good, because it's "equal". Capitalism isn't very great either, but it's based on logical conclussion that your wealth should depend on your own work, while marxists moan and demand wealth because "muh ebil bourgeoise".

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There are like 6 low quality lefty/pol/ neckbeard threads in the catalog right now. Mods do your fucking "job". Those insane trannies/sodomites/teenagers are flooding this board with shitposts

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>>3206988
>voluntary labour contracts
wrong
you either work under shitty employers that crack every bit of labour out of you for minimum wage, or you starve and die; simple as that. slavery hasn't ended, it just became a bit more transparent.
>>3207016
some people might, but most people believe in socialism/communism because of pic related. I think it is both the best and worst system as not very many people are prepared to do what is good for their society and country, looking past their greed and instincts

>>3206997
>corporations
>working for
>"has nothing to do with capitalism"
????????????

>>3207037
>starve and die
I love this meme. Nobody starves under capitalism anymore, but communism starved tens of millions whenever it was implemented.

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>>3207035
i'll tell you the same thing another /pol/ack told me on another thread
not your personal safespace

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Reminder that lefty/pol/ neckbeards are organizing on discord to raid and take over smaller boards to antagonize /pol/

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>>3207045
Pure autism.

>>3207044
what is africa

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>>3207044
never said people starve and die, they instead get exploited working a minimum wage job
>>3207052
>post made in 2016
nobody cares what happens on half chan
>>3207058
pure autism

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>>3207062
Need mo money for dem programs

>>3207065
>never said people starve and die,
Are you so fucking retarded that your short term memory doesn't exceed 5 minutes?

>>3207037
> or you starve and die
> or you starve and die
> or you starve and die
> or you starve and die
> or you starve and die

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>>3207065
It's so cringy when lefty/pol/ neckbeards try to mimic the aggressive style of actual /pol/lacks.

Meanwhile in the lefty/pol/ discord...

>>3206948
False. The basis for capitalism is theft. The basis for communism is correcting that injustice.

>>3207037
The most of those people became rich because of their own work.

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>These are the "people" raiding /his/ starting 10 shitpost threads every hour and chimp out about actual /pol/ content

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>>3207073
are you so fucking retarded to not understand basic comprehension skills? oh wait; you probably come from pol, not a big surprise.
nobody is going to want to starve and die, so they do a shitty minimum wage job that totally isn't slavery to barely get by. thanks for proving to me that you fail to read between the lines
>>3207075
leftypol discord is full of anarkiddies, doesn't surprise me really

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>>3207037
>>3207045
>>3207065
>>3206937
>>3206921
Nazis watchout

>>3207154
refer to the pic above you
those are anarchists, and yes they are children/manchildren

>>3207154
I laugh my arse off every time.

>>3206929
This. Communism is the definition of failure.

>>3207062
Africa hasn't had a peace time famine since the 80s...when the communist DERG were still running Ethiopia.
The west literally dumps its surplus food supply in Africa.

>>3206962
100 percent state controlled planned economy, not capitalism.

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>>3207087
"Actual /pol/ content" doesn't belong here, Fascist failure. The sticky literally says
>/his/ is not /pol/ with dates

>>3207207

Where does it belong to then? r/the_donald?

>>3207193
See >>3206921 the video right here. Unless you're telling me Ayn Rand was a Socialist? Also they had private control of the means of production. You're such a simpleton you don't even know your own brain dead ideology.

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>>3207154

>Sieze the memes of production comrade LMAO

>>3207087
/leftypol/ discord is full of fucking furries and bronies, it's cancer

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>>3206921
>don't posting real anticapitalist propaganda

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>>3206929
>Capitalists don't have to put much effort in their propaganda

The amount of money put into Berlin and Greece, for example, where the socialists can see the obscene wealth on display, does not support your views.
Its just that capitalist propaganda was building paradises near the border, so people can look and dream, and hiding the ghettos further away from it. Not posters and movies.

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>>3207289
>a big wall of concrete and security towers is not a sign of communist propaganda

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>>3207289
>Its just that communist propaganda was building paradises near the border, so people can look and dream, and hiding the ghettos further away from it. Not posters and movies.

>>3207304
The TV tower was built in such a way and place, so that the people on the other side of the wall can look at it all their lives.
It was an obvious monument to capitalism right there for everyone to see.

>>3207289
>have office building on the capitalist side where you can see over the wall and watch people starve to death and get throttled by secret police while you do your accounting
Comfy as fuck.

>>3207318
The wall of Berlin was built in such a way and place, so that the people on the other side of the wall can look at it all their lives. It was an obvious monument to communism right there for everyone to see.*

>>3207344
>i am pretending to be retarded and there is nothing you can do about it xD :D :P

Fuck off.

>>3207340
Thats clearly a more modern building, dummy.
And people were in deep shit on both sides of Berlin, the westerners had to import food with helicopters.

>>3207318
The tower was actually in East Berlin.

Fun fact, when the sun shines on the tower, a cross is formed. The communist authorities tried to get rid of it but it never worked, and it was called the Pope's Revenge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernsehturm_Berlin#.22Pope.27s_Revenge.22

>>3207349
Hey idiot, don't you understand yet? you can shit in capitalism whatever you want but you can deny the same justifications can apply in those communist utopias too.

>>3206921
Because Capitalist societies don't rely on propaganda to keep their people in line, unlike Commies

>>3207357
>The communist authorities tried to get rid of it but it never worked

This is an urban legend, its trivial to get rid of it if they wanted, just paint the windows or put some shading cover on them.

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>>3207362
Sure they don't.
https://youtu.be/Y6vHXumb47M

>>3206921
This thread is the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Some of the most powerful propaganda symbols of all time were from capitalist countries.

Pic related, Hitler kept a copy of this in his desk, realizing that truly effective propaganda doesn't try defending anything, it changes the subject and goes on the offensive.

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>>3207386
Forgot pic

>>3207357
Ah yes another tale of how divinely assisted emancipators stuck it to the communists once despite not actually quite managing to overthrow them.

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>>3207386
Behold the capitalism victims

>>3207416
This a history board, not a fantasy board

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>>3207416

>hurricane katrina
>actually counting natural disasters

holy shit nigga BAHAHAHAH!

>>3207416
>Vietnam
>caused by the US
mate, the French started that one.
>Korea
>not caused by North Korea

>>3207416
>Belgian Congo colonisation: 10m
>Congo (Free State) 1886-1908: 8m
wew lad, i never knew the Belgians somehow managed to genocide them twice

>>3206929

fpbp /thread

>>3207353
>Communists essentially besiege West Berlin by blocking off literally all ground access
>Allies manage to airlift over 8000 tons of provisions per day to Berlin while Soviet citizens are struggling with even having enough food for themselves
>The USSR pussies out after less than a year and lifts the blockade

The Berlin airlift program is evidence of the superiority of the capitalist governments you fucking nog lol

>>3207435
>implying the right doesn't do the same with Holodomor

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>"Every socialistic type of government where the State theoretically owns everything, and everybody does their little part to help the State, inevitably produces bad art, it produces social inertia, it produces really unhappy people, and it is more repressive than any other kind of government."

Soviet culture was real, it was an attempt to create a new man and new society build on the philosophical foundations of egalitarianism and progress.

Fascism was an orgiastic "acting out", beyond the savagery and violence it extolled, it was kitsch folk dances and some vague idea of traditional values.

"Capitalist propaganda" was just scare mongering at such ridiculous levels, that it happened at the expense of ordinary working class people and unions, especially during the Reagan era. It is such an "in your face" exaltation of social darwinist egocentrism that only the dumbest Americans ever took it seriously in the cold war.

>>3207961
>Soviet culture was real.

Yes a real copy/paste. Totalitarian are always obsessed to the idea of the new man, who adapts perfectly to their remiges, communism is not very different in that matter.

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>>3207416
>literally everything bad is capitalisim
Socialists when will they learn

>>3206921
>Why are Communists/Socialists better liars than Capitalists?

>>3206977
Where does property come from if not from an initial act of theft?

>>3206921
because your opinion blinds your judgement

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>>3208083
>>3206973
>>3207078
Yes "theft"

>>3208147
I asked you where property comes from.

>>3207416
>tfw the dinosaurs went extinct because of capitalism

>>3208147
Hey, when there is nothing left to be stolen, theft s no longer an issue. Life is just a question of priorities.

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>>3208147
Of course all capitalists get their property starving a lot of children, militar conquest and controlling the minds of the proles with the market. You see, rich are the EVIL incarnate, get them comrades, eat the rich.

>>3206921
The real and effective propoganda if capitalism is the art and entertainment produced by capitalist countries.
Hollywood movies, rock bands, and blue jeans work better than shitty posters and military parades

>>3206929
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

are communists only capable of communicating in shitty memes?

>>3208358
Yes.
The "/pol/" in "/leftypol/" is there for a reason, you know.

>>3206929
Fpbp

>>3208147
Communism can never be achieved because all of them are emo twinks.

>>3207289
Yeh, because it isn't like Berlin is the capital city where large buildings have to be contructed for a dense population or anything /s

>>3206921
Why use propaganda when you can use facts?