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Is this fantasy armor or a legit knight armor from the Middle

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Is this fantasy armor or a legit knight armor from the Middle Ages? I can ID the helmet as a barbute but was it ever used with this kind of plate armor with chain mail in the neck?
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>>3195410
I'd say that it's somewhere in between.

Each individual piece of the armor is historically accurate, but the suit as a whole is not. Plate armor of that period should have a bevor protecting the neck, rather than an aventail. And that style of armor is meant to have rondels to protect the upper arm/armpit area. That's the biggest issue really, since it looks like this dude just has cloth there and the pauldrons/rerebraces don't extend down to cover the inner side of the upper arm as they would on armor that didn't have rondels.
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>>3195410
Barbutes didn't have visors.
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>>3195536
>I'd say that it's somewhere in between.
This.

>Plate armor of that period should have a bevor protecting the neck
I would say so too, the helmet seems atypical.

However, it should be added that people experimented with sallet-variants with integrated neck protection. For one there's this bellows visored sallet that was quite famously depicted here. I don't think the historical object it's based on still exists though, so the possibility that it's a composite of two different objects or a plain historicism is not quite unlikely.
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>>3195644
A more likely example would be this helmet, attributed to Lorenz Helmschid from the possession of Maximilian I. There is another quite famous sallet-combination with a more conventional bevor setup but also fully integrated into the helmet by the same maker. It should be added that this was at the very end of the 15th century, so these might as well be transitional pieces towards what later became the close helmet.
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>>3195656
Here's the other one I was talking about.
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>>3195410
This helmet is most likely inspired by this one here, albeit it's questionable whether it's a historical piece or a composite/historicism.

Authenticity of the helmet aside, it clearly does not match the style of the armour, both in design and period.
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The arms are wrong. You never had armour plates for the individual fingers, you just had a bent piece of steel in the shape of the outside a closed fist so you could grasp your weapon but still move your fingers
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>>3195687
People actually had both kinds - in particular if we're talking early modern armour, but also medieval/renaissance.
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>>3195703
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>>3195706
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Thanks guys, I also found this replica armor and have the same question about it. Also what are those huge things on the elbows and knees? Did real armor have that?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEDIEVAL-WEARABLE-KNIGHT-CRUSADOR-FULL-ARMOR-SUIT-BEST-SOLID-QUALIFIED-GIFT-/252983683433?hash=item3ae700a969:g:q2IAAOSwRJ9XhLO~
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>>3195771
They're clearly bent in the fashion that they allow for the movement of limbs while still covering vulnerable spots in joints.
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Did this ever exist?
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>>3195771
That's a fairly poorly made armour.

>Also what are those huge things on the elbows and knees?
Take a look at >>3195721 to get an idea what these are meant to look like.
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>>3196078
What about this one? This seems to look better.

https://www.amazon.com/NauticalMart-Medieval-Knight-Century-Combat/dp/B07169HCRV/ref=pd_day0_468_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07169HCRV&pd_rd_r=7SST5DVAXCR9BAC1JM0R&pd_rd_w=YdDAW&pd_rd_wg=rYEjU&psc=1&refRID=7SST5DVAXCR9BAC1JM0R
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>>3196111
Yes, you're essentially looking at a reproduction of a 15th century Italian armour, like those found in Churburg Castle which belonged to the Lords of Matsch.

The various parts seem a bit misproportioned (compare with the suit in the picture that is clearly tailored to fit) but otherwise it looks suspiciously well made for something that costs just $699.

Personally, I'd be very sceptical of such a low price.
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