why are individuals in the hard sciences so keen on seeking public

>stupid determinist philosophy
you almost had me there

>>3179280
im referring to folks like harris and pinker who mechanistically apply evo theory to all human behavior. do you have a counter argument?

>>3179287
you aren't being specific enough for anyone to present a counter argument

>>3179287
>do you have a counter argument?

Do you have one at all? Because all I read was

>boohoo why are they more convincing than the shit I believe

>>3179250
You telling me experts in one field act like experts in another? Why I never.

This isn't something exclusive to professionals within the natural sciences, but it's much easier to spot there.

>>3179250
Because they're autistic and can't appreciate the beauty of history and the humanities. Last STEM president to take office was Jimmy Carter.

Scientism. People who aren't philosophers don't understand what philosophy actually is and what it's for. Science and philosophy aren't competing and they aren't trying to answer the same questions, but most people believe this to be the case. It's natural that in our post-industrial environment the masses would default to scientists as the people with answers to everything; they facilitate the creation of all of our cool gadgets and toys after all. Science became fetishized after WW2 in mainstream thought and culture. The discovery of relativity and quantum mechanics left this sense that science was uncovering the magical and mysterious underworld of reality itself which directly implied in a lot of people's minds that science was accomplishing philosophical goals (in other words, there was this implied belief that because quantum mechanics are so strange, invisible, counterintuitive, and revolutionary, they must be something like meta-physics). I think this essentially explains why scientists born in this later time themselves have this arrogance about other fields.

I'm 25 and planning on doing ancient history at uni.

Any tips?

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Because, largely due to the technological advancements and conveniences that long work in the hard sciences has helped to improve the immediate, material lives of people for whom immediate material comfort is really the only thing that matters, anyone who can lay hold to being a scientist is in some sense considered a priest in our society. Especially if you're a materially successful scientist with a popular-level book out and appearances on TV, which is where all serious intellectual activity occurs.

We've always given more credence to TV and to easy, quick answers resulting in immediate comfort. It's satisfying to hear the likes of Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins, the ex-Christopher Hitchens, et al. tell us that we need not worry about the questions of philosophy or complex questions concerning ethics and history. It's all so simple, just listen to these buzzwords and discount everyone who doesn't sound exactly like us. It's really just religion for people who have convinced themselves that they're too clever for metaphysics.

>>3179422
It's also because scientists accomplish things and make life better, but philosophers don't actually do anything but play word games.
People notice that.

ass

>>3179478
>Playing word games
> literally writing in a created language

Lulz

>>3179478
Science, when applied correctly is essentially nihilistic. It tells us how the world functions, but it makes no moral distinction. The latter is what we have philosophy for.

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>it's another &humanities inferiority complex thread

>>3179471
Sam harris literally isn't a scientist though.

>>3179706
Reminder Sam Harris's mother was Jewish and he is a crypto Jew that has never said anything bad about Jews, while making a career out of insulting muslisms and christians

>>3179250
>>3179631
A much more interesting topic is when engineers think they understand things like economics and political government and start memeing things like libatariam, becuase they think human society's will magically run best if set like the self correcting machines they make.

>>3179829
to be honest economics and political science are not really hard science.
It isn't possible to make accurate prediction anways, so you don't need a degree to make up some theories

>>3179821
He never insults anyone, he has criticised Islam and Christianity and he has indeed criticised, your religious ideologies aren't above any scrutiny where any criticism is "an insult". You're also talking rubbish, he has criticised Judaism as well.

>>3179840
>He never insults anyone
Have you read the end of faith? It's a emotional rage fest at Muslims

>>3179882
You clearly haven't read it.

>>3179287

Harris did his undergrad in philosophy, and Pinker recently linked to an article on twitter that argues against pop scientists who don't understand or respect philosophy. I don't think these guys are a problem.

>>3179829
>listening to engineers

You some kind of faggot or something?
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