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Has there ever been a State in History that has had such freedoms,

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Has there ever been a State in History that has had such freedoms, liberties and rights as pre-XX century USA?
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Most modern democracies, including the modern United States. They don't have legal slavery, for starters.
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Yeh probably Cossack Hetmanate. Guns, unapologetic, free to travel
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>>3169482
Freedom to the state of anarchy.
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>>3169510
no
Europe's countries are police states and/or burocratic hellholes
also low economic freedom compared to USA

>>3169553
PLC only had freedom to midle nobility, peasents suffer as everywhere else
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>>3169588
>"""economic freedom"""
>EU bureaucracy is worse than chattel slavery
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>>3169588
Peasants actually suffered more than anywhere else since the local noble could literally do whatever the fuck he wanted with them
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>>3169596

>slavery was a thing in late XIX century USA
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>>3169648
Anything goes when you just say "pre-20th century USA"; and even then you had state-enforced discrimination against blacks into the 1960s.

Also "economic freedom" in practice generally means the "freedom" to sell canned meat with maggots and rat shit in it.
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>>3169648
the 13th ammendment allows criminals to be put into slavery during their term.
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>>3169657
you seem like a stupid person
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>>3169482
No. Modern governance is the culmination of governance history.

We didn't build our government and politics from scratch, we build it on top of the past. We learned from the past and corrected them. The civil rights, the anti-slavery movements, and the women's rights for example was a hard fought right that the liberals fought for. The modern people enjoy these rights after having fought against people who did not value those.

However at various points in time, governments and politics have made strides in rights and freedom of ordinary people. It just happened that once those government collapses, these rights were once again reverted.
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>>3169707
Takes one to know one.
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>>3169707
Good retort.
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>>3169648
>pre-XX century USA does not include the ones with slavery

maybe you should specify your date.
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>>3169482
Yeah France
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>>3169482
Most African nations, which have no government and thus unlimited liberty.
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Yes, nearly every country pre 18th century
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>>3171973

>implying
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>>3169588
fact fucks like you should be banned from this board, fuck america and fuck americans
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>>3169482
>Be "free" american
>Can't purchase alcohol until 21

Justify this, burgers.
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>>3174066
too many car accidents
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Your older brother buys you your first drinks, just like how he teaches you how to fight, talk to girls, or whatever
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>>3169482
Switzerland
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>>3174066
Balance between rights and security. Underage teens can't buy alcohol, but can drink it, and thereafter it's their responsibility to not do stupid shit, which is unlikely since they get inebriated
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>>3169482
His is conservative and Conservatism is against big government.
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