Now that the dust has settled, can we agree the French revolution

>>3156818
>republicanism
>clearing up useless monarchical dynasties since the fall of the roman empire

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>>3156818
>natural hierarchy
>divine right
>stability
Oh boy, can't wait to join the next succession war

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>This kills the monarchist

>>3156882
Charles II is still better than any democratically elected "leader" in the western world today

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>>3156886

>>3156890
Okay smart guy what did he do wrong during his reign?

>>3156900
everything

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>>3156818
Just think... we could have been exploring the outer reaches of God's domain by now...

>>3156869
>since the fall of the roman empire
You're a complete retard.

The only purpose monarchs have in the present day is for ceremonial purposes and as figureheads, they have no place in government.

A constitutional monarchy backed up by a strong parliamentary system is the proper way to govern.

>>3156900
He was an inbred retard. He literally did nothing thus, an incompetent ruler during tough times in Spain.

>>3156905
Such as...

>>3156905
His reign wasn't actually that awful. He was a retard sure but he didn't fuck Spain up or anything.

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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that the French Revolution didn't change anything about the historical course France was taking since the 13th century, and that both sides obsessing about it are just LARPing.

I'd say even the Fronde was more relevant.

>>3156937
Really nakes you think that even a literal retard is a better ruler than a democratically elected one.

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>>3156882
>This kills the republican.
Sometimes literally.

>>3156960
What do you mean exactly? French Revolution had a major impact on all of Europe.

>>3156818
Monarch is actually awesome...if you are the king

For all the rest of possibilities it sucks.

>>3157000
t. Marxist

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>>3157004
>it's pretty great to go to prison because the king finds it funny

Apologists, I swear

>>3157000
It's actually better to be an aristocrat in a monarchist state than it is to be king. Without the aristocracy to back them, the king holds no power.

>>3157014
>I get my opinions on monarchy from Game of Thrones and LOTR: the post

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Now that the dust has settled can we agree that agriculture was a mistake?

Monarchism is rooted in genetic supremacy like eugenics

Republicanism is rooted in societal supremacy

Whichever you are drawn to determines your opinion on monarchism vs republicanism

If monarchy is superior, why didn't it survive?

>>3156934
That's working well for the Anglos.
Democracy was a mistake

>>3156934

"Constitutional Monarchy" is for boring losers. Full republicanism all the way is the only way.

>>3156934
That's literally combining the worst aspects of both republicanism an monarchism.
>squabbling parliament like in republicanism
>monarch exists but he's literally useless and serves only as a money sink

>>3157117
If Germans are the master race, why did they lost both wars? The answer in unnironically the jews

>>3157117
>If Bach is superior to Ariana Grande, why do more people listen to Ariana Grande?

>>3157129
Republics are just an excuse of the oligarchs and the rich to make people believe the have anything. You really can't trust in someone who was ambitious enough to become a PM or president to be looking for the greater good and not his own. Having someone been literally born to it and educate them since day one is relatively the safest choice.

>>3157162

>An entitled moron is better than somebody who had to work hard to succeed

If the Renaissance was also a mistake, yes. Otherwise no.

>>3157172
>he believes meritocracy ever existed or can exist

>>3157193

>he thinks that giving immense power to an inbred 15 year old is a great idea

>>3157208
You still can't skirt around the fact that meritocracy is more of a pipe dream than communism. You scrap artistocracy and it will just get replaced by oligarchic nepotism. You can't outfuck human nature.

>>3157215

>so instead, let's give an inbred 15 year old control of nukes, this will turn out well

>>3157224
>America has been ruled by various types of Kennedys, Bushes, Clintons and Roosevelts
>m-maybe they're just really hard workers

>>3157229

>So instead let's give the nuclear codes to an inbred 15 year old

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>>3156818
>Now that the dust has settled
This wild ride has not even ended

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>>3157229
>privilege exist in republics therefore we must support a system that gives one person the most privilege
Letting perfect be the enemy of good desu

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>>3157172
>90% of the world's top 1%
>meritocratic in any sense

for every bill gates who actually worked his way to fabulous wealth and wild success there's ten thousand cunts who just inherited their business empires, also

>monarchism
could be worse, could be better, like most government systems

>bringing back aristocracy
>pretending the masses can go back to being shut out from the political process in the information age
>pretending that monarchs didn't spend the centuries at the height of their powers trying to neuter their aristocrats
pic related

>>3157239
Why do people think that monarchies are dictatorships?

>>3157322
l'etat c'est moi

>>3157087
Are you saying republicanism is for proles?

>>3157239
>keeps using this strawman
There's no rule that requires 15 year olds to be eligible for rulership.

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>>3157034
>I get my opinions on monarchy from Disney Movies

Are you seriously saying that absolutism is a medieval fantasy set up? Because I swear...

>>3157087
>Monarchism is rooted in genetic supremacy like eugenics
No it isn't. Its rooted in historical supremacy if anything

>>3156934
No, that's republican dictatorship. Any other answer is spooked as fuck.

>>3157000
Kang is usually the good guy if he gets to be an enlightened guy. It's the noble class who are the real assholes.

>>3157149
More people listened to Bach if you count the past, and so many will still listen to Bach in the future when Ariana Grande gets forgotten.

>>3157322
because they fucking are? "constitutional monarchies" are just republics with a useless figurehead.

Have any monarchs ever held actual power and authority themselves? Monarchism seems to function more as an oligarchy where the monarch is subject to the influence and whims of their council, nobles, clergy, generals or what have you.

>>3156818
Yes it was, the American revolution however was the right step and its a pity Europe never fully embraced the principles it laid down

>>3156975
Hitler was a republican, moran.

>>3157386
then its not a monarchy

>>3157552
>I have never studied the 19th century

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>>3157086
Now that the dust has settled, can we finally agree that hunting and gathering was a mistake?

>>3157121
You are living in the most pacific era of mankind and thats because of democracy

>>3157717
Despite democracy*

>>3156818

Monarchy itself is a useless political ideology

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>>3157717
It's because of McDonalds. It's a proven fact that countries with McDonalds in them are more secure and less warlike than countries with no McDonalds.

>>3157717
more likely its because nukes made war between great powers unthinkable

Yes. It's the source of everything wrong with western society

Evola was right, as evidenced in this thread.

You can see it displayed here, two different tactics of subversion mainly: First, blaming the system itself, instead of blaming the people within the system (saying it's a problem with monarchy and not a problem with bad monarchs). Second, the linear view of history as unfolding according to a certain narrative, this post in particular shows this line of thinking clearly: >>3156960

>the historical course France was taking since the 13th century,

The view of history as unfolding according to a certain "historical course" or linear narrative, driven by mystical and pre-determined forces when in fact history is driven by people.

>>3156921
Not an argument

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>>3156818
Yes.

>>3156924
Why?

>>3157687
Absolutely. We must return to the pre-Lapsarian mode. Our first punishment was H&G, and each attempt to escape that punishment has had terrible consequences.
The coming of Communism will be followed by the Second Coming. Dies Irae draws near.

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>>3156818
It was a huge mistake.

>>3156818
Everyone ITT who uses late renaissance and enlightenment feudalautism as an example of monarchy being bad is a brainlet.
The amount of strawmen is staggering. Do you think any monarchists want to be ruled by the likes of (((Habsburgs)))?
Is having countless aristocrats and nobles who have greater power that the king part of an absolute monarchy?
Most monarchists are mediaeval autists, try arguing why Alfred the Great, or Charlemagne, Edward I, or Henry V were bad.

>>3158219
christianity is le dumb!