>Mayans were building huge cities with impressive temples

>>3141092
but they all died

>Creates thread with incorrect historical info. Brings up non-Europeans only when making false accusations against Europeans.
Really makes you think...

>>3141120
Central and Northern Europeans were primitive barbarians.

>>3141135
>were.

>>3141144
At the same time as the Mayans. Despite having access to horses, cattle, and sharing of knowledge

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They were top tier honestly. building this while being insolated in a jungle.

>Mayan civ peaked as Rome was weakening
>Mayan civ was declining as Charlemagne was being made Emperor
>As it peak power ended the HRE came to dominate central Europe
>the birth of new kingdoms in Europe dominated this period
>Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Scotland, France, Castile, Portugal, Aragon, Kievan Rus
>Europeans were living in mud huts

What did OP mean by this?

>>3141230
Their civ is actually from 600 BCE-1697 CE

>>3141092
Pyramids are baby tier. There is kothing impressive about them

>>3141582
>the architectural techniques of their civilization never advanced beyond the ziggurat over the period of a thousand years
lol

>>3141590
>Europeans been living in mudhuts until 1000 years ago

>>3141092
Vast majority of every civilization was living in shit huts at any given period before the industrial revolution.

>>3141586
As impressive as sites like Uxmal and Palenque are, the Mayan pyramids are more in the category of elite piles of stone and not archeological wonders like the Great Pyramid, for example, which was fully constructed from lined & cut stone and has interior entry. (I don't believe any of the Mayan pyramids has any form of interior within the center of the pyramid; at best, there may be a single-room structure sitting atop the pyramid.

>>3141597
>le Greece and Rome are not Europe maymay

>>3141597
Even a mudhut is more architecturally sophisticated than a ziggurat. Ziggurats are literally "we just discovered agriculture and suddenly have manpower to burn" tier.

the only impressive thing about pyramids are the logistics involved to move massive stones and work on them until they have the desired shape.

Other than that it's just a pretty pile of rocks with no architecture involved like mathematics or higher knowledge of static

>>3141590
They actually developed the arch in the early postclassic period, during the Puuc period. And in the Late classic period built one of the largest earliest suspension bridges. I mean can you name any stone age civ that developed similar architecture in Europe?

>>3141608
Mayas had mudhuts too, that's where the commoners lived.

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>stacking rocks
I'm impressed, anything else we can use from these advanced and ancient civilization?

>>3141657
Both Puuc and Late Classic Era are literally thousands of years after the end of the Stone Age. Why would you compare them?

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>>3141092
>>3141597
Estás enojado indio?

>>3141712
It was during the Mayas stone age. Remember that natives in the Americas had a late headstart when they settled the Americas. The chronology in one hemishpere cannot be applied to another when development occurs differently. By the time of the Spanish arrival they were on the onset of a Copper-Bronze age.

>>3141739
>The chronology in one hemishpere cannot be applied to another when development occurs differently
And yet you are trying to do just that.

>>3141746
Someone claimed that they never advanced beyond zigurats in an over a thousand year period. I am simply saying there was development in those years.

>>3141657
>I mean can you name any stone age civ that developed similar architecture in Europe?
No, because the architecture in question would have been so old that it would have been torn down and buitl over again by later civilizations.

>>3141769
No one cares about nuance in a shitposting thread, fuck off.

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>>3141603
Keep LARPing snow nigger. You are like West Africans claiming to be Egyptian.

>>3141712
would you not consider isolated hunter gatherers in the amazon to be stone age?

>>3141805
The Colosseum is not a person

>>3141805
>jews
>white europeans

WE

>>3141823
its to be compared to the hut on the right side I believe

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>>3141839
Nice try KIDF. Jews are a part of the Mediterranean master race by blood. They have a much better claim to the Roman Empire than you ever will. Pic related and countless DNA studies prove this.

>>3141805
>Anglos
>white

>>3141675
Incas were superior to europeans though.

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>>3141092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZTtfc1qF8

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>>3141092
Not really, those temple are contemporary to the Roman amphitheatres

>>3142270
>15000 years of offset
Hehe
Yes really, my eurangutan pet.

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>>3141230
>>Mayan civ peaked as Rome was weakening
It peaked 100-400 years before with El Mirador, the city reached a population of 250 000 people, i.e. 25% of Rome's population with only 7% of the arable land supplying Rome.

>Mayan civ was declining as Charlemagne was being made Emperor
It literally formed a league of city-states (pretty much like the holy roman meme) a century later, the league lasted almost 500 years, quite more than the 90 years of the carolingian empire

>As it peak power ended the HRE came to dominate central Europe
At that point the HRE have been around for 500 years, the Mayans were continually relevant from at least 600 BC, literally as ancient as the Greeks.

>the birth of new kingdoms in Europe dominated this period
Mayans were doing this since 600 bc

>Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Scotland, France, Castile, Portugal, Aragon, Kievan Rus
All of them mudhut tier until civilized by the Romans, which the Mayans predated by at least 100 years. On top of that the Mayans had to develope their civilization on their own. There was no Middle East to give them writting, mathematics, iron, beasts of burden, architecture, etc.

>>3141586
>>3141590
>>3141654
>Other than that it's just a pretty pile of rocks with no architecture involved like mathematics or higher knowledge of static
jesus christ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaLRMq8sgYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE6Fy1s0pfU

>>3142270
Not really, that temple was built in the 12th century.
There's nothing equal to it in the rest of the world and its engeneering much more impressive than a bunch of arches stached over each other if you ask me.

>>3141092
They hadn't even invented the wheel before Europeans arrived

Really triggers the neurons...

>>3141155
>German Barbarians had access to horses and sharing of knowledge

>>3141805
>Euorpeans

>>3142940
neither did europeans, even if they had beasts of burden to pull those wheels

>True (freely-spinning) potter's wheels were apparently in use in Mesopotamia by 3500 BCE and possibly as early as 4000 BCE,[4] and the oldest surviving example, which was found in Ur (modern day Iraq), dates to approximately 3100 BCE.

also
>the Mayan estimate of the length of the synodic month being more accurate than Ptolemy's,[2] and their calculation as to the length of the tropical solar year was more accurate than that of the Spanish when the latter first arrived

>>3142940
Yes they had, monkey.

>>3142927
>It peaked 100-400 years before with El Mirador, the city reached a population of 250 000 people

In your imagination retard

>>3142927
You have many fair points, but to say its engineering is more impressive than say, the Pantheon or the Hagia Sophia is maybe a bit of a stretch.

>>3143222
He's right though. Have you seen the size of El Mirador? La Danta the city's main temple is larger than the pyramids of egypt.

>>3143242
Considering Amerindians reached America 15000 years after eurangutans settled on europe... Is it really impressive? Hehehe

>>3143263
lol, no it is not.

>>3143264
Damnit not you again.

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>>3143287
Sometimes educating you people is tiresome. But here you go.

>>3143314
Fake picture

>>3141092
Why would you praise the product of slave labor? This rock hut is a monument to human sacrifice. It's an attestment to their savagery.

Don't always take things are face value, that picture actually disproves their civility.

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>>3143316
>>3143328

>>3143339
Actually most of their temples were built by guilds of workers, craftsmen for the city. Slaves tended to do other kind of work,

>>3143340
Again, false.

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Why not build something useful?

>>3143340
El mirador biggest pyramid is 72 meters high

>>3143410
They built aqueducts too. A water feature in Palenque is the earliest known example of engineered water pressure in the Americas. And it wasn't unique to that city.

>>3143414
You're missing a 1 there.

>>3143449
Not comparable to Roman ones though

>>3143456
Again, bullshit, you fucking wewuzzer, el mirador is 72 m

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_structures_built_before_the_20th_century

>>3143457
goalpost shifting
>>3143461
The entire structure is 172 meters making it one of the largest in the world.

>When the large man-made platform that the temple is built upon (some 18,000 square meters) is included in calculations, La Danta is considered by some archeologists to be one of the most massive ancient structures in the world.[11]

>>3143500
It doesn't say anywhere that it's 172 meters high, you wewuzzer

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>>3143518
>El Mirador cuenta con la Pirámide de La Danta la más alta de los mayas (72 m), y de América, y una de las mayores del mundo, midiendo todo el complejo de piramides 170 metros de altura, con un volumen de 2,800,000 m3, 200.000 más que la Gran Pirámide de Keops en Egipto. La Pirámide de El Tigre, de 55 m es la segunda mayor del sitio, la National Geographic Society, filmó aquí el Documental El Amanecer de Los Mayas en el 2005. Un reciente estudio realizado por el arqueólogo guatemalteco Carlos Morales-Aguilar comprobó que la ciudad de El Mirador fue planificada desde su inicio, y a su vez se encontraron numerosas alineaciones entre varios edificios muchos de los cuales sirvieron como puntos de observación astronómico. Estos estudios han registrado fenómenos interesantes relacionados a la traslación del sol y la luna en ciertas épocas del año.

>The magnitude of El Mirador is staggering, though less than 10% of it is excavated. Mossy stone temples, crumbling guard towers and gleaming white staircases stand among the thick jungle.

>We picked our way around sprawling El Tigre, Los Monos and La Danta temple complexes made of limestone platforms topped by three pyramids. Jaguar masks were carved into monuments, and remnants of elevated causeways connected it all like ancient superhighways.

>Archaeologists believe this was once the largest city in the Western Hemisphere, with as many as 200,000 people and a million more in surrounding cities.

>>3143457
You are correct
The new world ones were actually clean

>>3141092
Letting niggers on the internet was a mistake.

>>3141092
Rome was conquering the world while these savages were living like Africans.

Also Germans were already building castles when these were built.

>>3141805
What is this meme? Is this like the nigger counter to the fact that still today they can't feed themselves?

Why are eurangutans so triggered in this thread?

>>3142927
Roman architecture was far more impressive and complicated than some stacked rocks.

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Mayans and Aztec are trash only Incas are superior

>>3142053
T. Evo morales

>>3141092
That's a pile of rocks...
Meanwhile in Europe they had mastered central heating systems and shit. Not to mention the wheel, metallurgy, sailing and other little things.

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You admire temples? Really OP? Because in the city I live in right now there are 3 temples from sanding and still being used as temples for 1700 years. What were the Aztects doing 1700 years ago?

>>3144764
>15000 years of offset
Not surprising knowing that Amerindians reached America 15000 years after eurangutans settled on yurop.

Try again, chimp.

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Europeans lived in houses and built huge buildings 6000-7000 years ago (6-7KYA)

Modern day Western Europeans moved west into Europe from the Burned House Horizon.


> YOU'RE RETARDED

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>>3144852
another temple

>>3141092
>Romans

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>>3144852
>Burned House Horizon.

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>>3144852

cont-

WE STILL BUILD IN THIS STYLE

> pic related

>>3144852
5000BC + 15000 offset = 10000AC
Not surprising knowing that Amerindians reached America 15000 years after eurangutans settled on yurop.

>>3144936
>>3144933

>>3144831
>15000 years
>fifteen thousand
Every human was a hunter gatherer at that point dude.

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Europeans were never inferior to native Americans

>>3144936
You're retarded. You built with what you have. Many Europeans moved into new territory in Western Europe that was untamed wilderness. Do you genuinely expect them to have prepackaged societies? It takes 100s, even 1000s of years to create civilized life in wilderness with Bronze Age technology. Really, people like you should be intellectually sterilized.

>>3144950
Wrong. The progress of civilization and the accumulation of knowledge started again on America. Yet Amerindians got quicker to the beginning of the bronze age in less time compared to eurangutans.

>>3144954
You're retarded. You build with what you have.

Many Europeans moved into new territory in Western Europe that was untamed wilderness. Do you genuinely expect them to have prepackaged societies? It takes 100s, even 1000s of years to create civilized life in wilderness with Bronze Age technology. Really, people like you should be intellectually sterilized.

>>3142927
That bird thing is cool as fuck

>>3144975
?

Your reading comprehension is really low

>>3144974
Seriously that's fucking flat earth tier of retardation.

Saying that they started over again when they moved in is like saying the fucking Spanish started at year 6000BC the moment that first Carrack that reached American shores and ran its keel aground.

Fact of the matter is very simple. The Mesoamericans failed only in one thing - evolution. Their downfall were the dirt and germs the Europeans carried with them. And I say that again, it's only them that failed to adapt, not the Africans, not the far east Asians not even the Inuits.

>>3145046
Nomadic and obsidian tools as well as cave dwellers have been on all America on their archaic phase.

Try again with some facts, chimp.

>>3145014
You're retarded, my point stands against your complete lack of refutation. I don't care if you're that tranny nigger or a white from /pol/. you're all retarded before me.

>>3145079
You're retarded

>>3144974
lawl, it's not how it works. Human settlements in Europe and America were at the exact same point of advancement 15000 years ago.

>>3145119
Wrong. Europeans had 15000 years of advantage yet they hadn't even reached the level of hydrodynamics technology as Tenochtitlan. Try again, chimp.

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>>3144810
bitch please

>>3145147

You didn't post that you tranny nigger.

>>3145156
A fucking baby starts to build pyramids with blocks, it's a logical progression for someone who can't stand upright.

>>3145145
>amerindians got to America 15000 years ago
Hehehe
This monkey can't even read well.

Try again.

>>3145183
Not sure if you're retarded or drunk but in any case:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefish_Caves

>>3145203
I don't know why you keep making eurangutans look worse. Are you the retarded eurangutan of the group?

>>3145266
Ok, you're drunk. It's alright anon, tomorrow is another day.

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>>3145156
1300AD Fucking wow...I wonder what those Europoors were doing 800 years earlier. Can i see the glorious interior of the Moon temple anon? Please I'm dying to marvel at its greatness.

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Jungleniggers didn't even participate in the Finno-Korean Hyperwar. All further posts in this thread are void

>>3145344
So not an argument? Hehe
>>3145369
>15000 years of offset
Not even worth to check it out. Eurangutans...

>>3145520
Bluefish caves, America: -24000
Lascaux, Europa: -17000
Both paleolithic societies.
...
I like your conversation, continue please.

>>3145520
So?

Iceland was populated first in 1000 AD so they're the most advanced people on the planet?

What retarded convoluted way of thinking is that?

The only thing good about 'Civilization' is that it gives anons, like the one's in this thread and threads like this, something to wave their dick to, as well as something for them to dick ride on

>>3141675
This analogy would make more sense if he chewed and spat 47 bowls of cereals

captcha: have more

>>3145853
Are you proud of those paleolithic findings or something?
>>3145865
Wrong. They weren't isolated to the influx of european culture later.

Amerindians started the civilization race from the beginning again. Deal with it, chimp.