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Was dealing with a money lender really that terrible? Why couldn't

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Was dealing with a money lender really that terrible? Why couldn't Europeans pay their debts?
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>>3140595
No. Most money-lenders were philanthropists.
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>>3140595
Everyone on earth were niggers until the early 1700's
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It was more about class. Nobility hated being reduced to worrying about money and they hated having obligations to commoners. Like your trust fund friend who borrows your car and gets annoyed when you care about getting it back, since a car is trivial to him.
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>>3140595


merchants have always been viewed with suspicion in aristocratic societies because they can gain power through money rather than through lineage or martial prowess.

Even today people usually hate anyone they owe money too, but in olden days. When you add to that cultural biases which see buying and selling for a living as dirty or immoral it gets worse
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>>3140595
Related (not OP): why were the Habsburgs so bad with money?

See: Wallenstein and Samuel Oppenheimer
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>>3140982

Like this guy said: people who are rich by birth always look down on people who get rich by actually doing shit.
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>>3140595

Technically usury is a sin which Christians conveniently forgotten after Luther died.

(Luther was the biggest hater on merchants and lenders since it was sort of a thing Jews did mostly but he always was pissed at Christians who did it as well)

http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-14/luther-on-use-of-money.html

It is forbidden by the old and new testament.

The reason Jews got around this was that the old testament said "Don't lend money at interest to your brother" which they took as meaning other Jews so taking advantage of Christians was ok.

Christians were forbidden by most religious laws from lending at all so they had to rely on Jewish bankers for most of the earlier Middle Ages history.

Eventually the Venetians got around to lending themselves and infiltrated the Catholic church (Dondalo!) and the Catholics Church became a bank itself.

So much modern Christians ignore the Biblical instructions except for the Orthodox at this point which have gotten the Russian government to help with banking that isn't usury like the Muslim banks (though I don't know still seems like usury)
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>>3141169
Lending money to people isn't taking advantage of them, though, unless they're mentally challenged or something.
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>>3141169
The problem is that usury works really well on a large scale, so if you actually were to follow those religious laws on a national level your country would fall way behind financially. So those groups set up elaborate systems which basically outsource the usury so that believers can still feel good about themselves.
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>>3141277

To be fair, usury is required for capitalism to work and I suspect that is a reason most Muslim countries do so poorly in terms of economic development.

However, you shouldn't really call yourself Christians if you ignore the lending money at interest rule in the Bible because it feels better to make money.

>>3141274

Lending money at interest is usury according to Bible and says its evil to do it.
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>>3141294
>according to Bible
ayy lmao
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>>3141169
You are delusional. The Old Testament never says lending money at interest is not okay, just that it's immoral to do at very high interest. Jews were allowed to lend money but the King would usually decide the capita.
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