>no thread on the craziest dictator in the past 100 years

>>3135473
the year 0 was a good idea

>>3135473
He was a Maoist. He messed with Vietnam and Vietnam put an end to him and his government. Then China tries to attack Vietnam, and gets defeated by Vietnam.

was pol pot retarded?

as an ex-commie i never understood how he was planning to reach communism by deindustrializing and building kolkhozes. i mean, that's literally not real communism

>>3135497
Agrarian Society you bourgeois fuck.

>>3135473

Reminder that the US supported Pol Pot, and that the people ultimately defeated the Khmer Rogue savages were the same guerillas who defeated the US during the Vietnam war.

>>3135473
communalism works best in the primitive scale, I can understand why he did it

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What is this? Fucking amateur hour?
>Spent a third of the national budget on a coronation ceremony

>Killed students who protested against expensive school uniforms with Bokassa's image on it

>Personally killed people with his cane

>Reported cannibalism

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>>3135519
I can do one better actually.

>Changed the national motto to "There is no other God than Macías Nguema"

>Banned the word "intellectual"

>Killed people who wore glasses

>Country nicknamed "the Dachau of Africa"

>Had soldiers dressed in Santa Claus outfits execute political opponents in the main football stadium while the song "Those were the Days" by Mary Hopkins was playing.

>Banned western medicine

>>3135510
are you saying... the US lost twice(2) to rice farmers?

>>3135497
>my brand of communism is the true one!

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>>3135556
Just imagine for one moment, you're tied to a wooden pole in the middle of a large football stadium, in front of you are several soldiers dressed as (pic related) and from the main speakers you can here the following song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DQepQaporY

I mean how do you comprehend that?

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>>3135510
>not understand the glory of burger tactics

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>>3135497
Communism is all about feels

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Imagine being a Peruvian philosophy professor, watching what Pol Pot had done in Cambodia and saying: "You know what, this is exactly what my country needs"

And so the Sendero Luminoso was born. If it wasn't for Alberto Fujimori, we would have another monster for this gallery of retards.

>guise gommunism is good!
>PolPot has ALL the answers
>I am going to visit there and show you all!

>wait PolPot killed me?

Fucking commie lover, literally the best case of irony I have ever read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Caldwell

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>>3135473
>He didn't do all that while embezzling 4 billion USD
>He didn't start a 20 year war
>He didn't wear cool hats
>Craziest dictator

>>3135610
>but is ok, because is not true communism =^)

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>After Amin's death, David Owen revealed that when he was the British Foreign Secretary he had proposed having Amin assassinated. He has defended this, arguing: "I'm not ashamed of considering it, because his regime goes down in the scale of Pol Pot as one of the worst of all African regimes"
>in the scale of Pol Pot

>>3135610
Let's be fair though, we're talking about a variation of Maoism. Communism is a theory suited to more urban industrial areas rather than rural areas given the context of the time period.

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>>3135613
Mobutu didnt kill 25% of his population in 4 years. Thats a special kind of dedication.

>pic shows the population of Phnom Penh

>>3135519
>>3135556
Africa is really cheating tho...

>>3135510
>Supported Pol Pot
After the Vietnam War had ended, and even then as only a part of the broad coalition fighting the Vietnamese which included former royalists and moderates.
>Same guerrillas
This meme needs to fucking die. The PAVN was not a guerrilla force, it was a regular army. The NLF was the guerrilla force that was to work in tandem with the regular army, and the NLF got the shit kicked out of them at Tet.
>>3135584
Well we weren't too happy about Vietnam, so we decided to make their occupation of Cambodia as shitty as possible while simultaneously embargoing them. The culmination of this probably helped them to unfuck their retarded economy in the 80's when they began to see the true light of capitalism.

>>3135566
From what I understand, Marxism is based on the idea of taking over from capitalism and building on top of its gains, not reversing course to primitive times and trying to build communism from scratch. Of course, that's just Marxism, not communism in general.

>>3135610
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Caldwell
>He was a consistent critic of American foreign policy, a campaigner for Asian communist and socialist movements, and a supporter of the Khmer Rouge.
If he was a consistent critic of American foreign policy, why did he support the Khmer Rouge?

>>3135519
>>3135556
>[Bokassa's father] decided that he would no longer follow French orders. He released some of his fellow villagers who were being held hostage by the Forestière. The company considered this to be a rebellious act, so they detained Mgboundoulou, and took him away bound in chains to Mbaïki.[3] On 13 November 1927, he was beaten to death in the town square just outside the prefecture office.
>As a boy of 9, Nguema saw his father punched to death by a Spanish colonial administrator when he tried to use his title of chief to negotiate for better wages for his people.
Fucking Europeans created a bunch of psychopaths before they left Africa.

>2017
>Not embracing His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular (and also the king of scotland)

Pol Pot was a good dude but cmon man can he real beat Idi Amin?

"Only several thousand Kampucheans might have died due to some mistakes in implementing our policy of providing an affluent life for the people."

"I came to join the revolution, not to kill the Cambodian people. Look at me now. Am I a violent person? No. So, as far as my conscience and my mission were concerned, there was no problem."

>>3135610
But pol pots people didn't do that, it was anti-commies that killed him. Maoism is still retarded though

>>3136005
That's not what the Wikipedia article says.

>>3135556
>Had soldiers dressed in Santa Claus outfits execute political opponents in the main football stadium while the song "Those were the Days" by Mary Hopkins was playing.

truth really is stranger than fiction

>>3135556
>>3135519
What the fuck is Africa's problem

>>3135610
I heard his last reported words were "at least it wasn't real communis-"

>>3136223
Literally both of those guys had their fathers executed by Western colonial authorities.
Not to say they would have turned out great otherwise, but still... makes you go "hmm".

>>3136242
I still maintain that colonialism was a net positive in general but damn man, europoors needed to chill out some times

>>3135583
It was an art installation

>>3135605
Nice revisionism.

Are there any proper good dictators left? Qaddafi seems like the last one.

>>3136304
I've got bad news for you...

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>>3136313
*Seemed
Also not trying to start a "le trump is a dictator xddd" shitstorm, but he understands the importance of bling.

>>3136304
Assad doesn't dress like an imbecile or do anything that's actually batshit insane (remember that immoral /= insane) but his followers and his admirers treat him like a hero

>>3135508
Then it has very little to do with the original Marxian Communism (which was inherently tied to industrial capitalism) and basically seems like an exaggerated form of MLM.

>>3135634
How did they manage the increase from 1978 to 1980?

>>3135893
As I quoted here >>3135630 his regime was one of the worst of all African regimes (at the time), but the scale is named after Pol Pot, so I doubt he upstaged him in atrocities, though he definitely had superior title.

>>3136304
Kim I guess.

And I dont know what goes on in Sudan.

>>3136304
Central asians and venezuelans too

>>3136304
>Qaddafi
he got FREEDOM'd years ago man, have you not read the news in a few years?
but North Korea is the only batshit crazy state left of the old school

>>3136292
Fujimori is 100% getting out this 28 mark my words.

>>3136546
Eritrea is pretty bad

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>>3136292
t. the red guard

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>>3135473
>kills off the urban fags
heh yeah sure was crazy...

>>3135508
Marxist never gave a fuck about peasant.
Fuck the peasant class. It's these retards that hold back society as a whole with their retarded beliefs on traditions.
Every other class has more fucking value than these mouth breathers.

>>3136253
Bullshit.
We should have just planted the idea of nationalism into their fucking heads and left. After a few centuries, we would have fully functioning nation-states in Africa with fewer ethnic identities and languages.

Genocide and ethnic cleansing is the only answer. Doesn't have to be physical and homicidal, but it needs to happen in order for progress to occur.

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>>3136234
>>3135621
Fuck no. I bet he died thinking he deserved it. Some of these nutters need to be lynched, there is no cure for their retardation, not even death.

>>3136448
Not even. It was based on the assumption that Cambodians were racially superior to everyone else. Cambodians had always been farmers, it follows that farming is superior to every other form of economic activity.
Their ultra-racialism and ultra-nationalism would perplex Hitler himself.

>>3135556
Why Santa Claus outfits in the first place

>>3135634
they moved the displaced population back to the city. Still impressive he killed 25% of his total population in 4 years. Not to mention he died peacefully without any trial for his crimes.

>>3137700
fuck meant to respond to >>3136448

>>3137064
>Genocide and ethnic cleansing is the only answer. Doesn't have to be physical and homicidal
Ah, do tell about that non-physical, non-homicidal genocide and ethnic cleansing.

>>3137064
Nationalism, like communism, is a disease of the mind whose effect is mass murder.

>>3136448
Because he kicked everybody out beforehand to go become affluent farmers in the countryside,

>>3136304
Teodoro Obiang, the president of Equitorial Guinea, although not as batshit insane as the previous one, he is still pretty fucked up.
He spoke in tv about how proud and happy he is to be a dictator and that there is almost no torture in Guinea (almost laughing his ass off).

>>3135881
>muh ebil whitei!

>>3137758

>nationalism is a disease of the mind

Oh wow, you sure are progressive.

>>3135610
SO YOU'VE BEEN TO SCHOOL FOR A YEAR OR TOO

>>3136223
They're black. The other guy rants about "muh trauma, muh ebil whites" but literally all african leaders have been like this since before the times of colonialism (except the smart ones don't act like clowns). Look at Shaka Zulu, he was like all those monsters, just less comical because he wasn't retarded. Look at the bambara slaver states. Chief brutality is inherent to Africa (and not even unique to them).

>>3137779
It's true. Look at the greatest nation to ever exist, the US. No proper nationalism with state pride, just a blob of states under the flag "United States of America". The country don't even have a proper name. This is the kind of nationalism we should foster all over the world. Not a pride for a nation but just a senseless pride for your fellow man that's not rooted in anything outside of living close to each other, no matter their color, background or religion.

>>3137806
you obviously do not live in the US, nationalism here is fucking through the roof.

>>3135584

Plausible deniability bro

>>3135494
>Then China tries to attack Vietnam, and gets defeated by Vietnam
It's the other way around actually, but some can also argue that the main force of Vietnam wasn't in homeland and China caught them by surprised. Nevertheless, the small scale conflicts continued to 90, and Vietnamese didn't get any advantages from that, but Cambodian communists couldn't never regain the power as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_1979%E2%80%9390
http://www.historynet.com/war-of-the-dragons-the-sino-vietnamese-war-1979.htm

>>3136476
>but the scale is named after Pol Pot
>This reading comprehension

>>3137793
Now I am actually wondering if the song is based on this.
They recorded it in 79, one year after the incident.

>>3137816
Not him, but I think you mean patriotism

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>used treason and violated international law to obtain info to smear his opponent
>banned press that said he had small hands
>called Bill Gates up to ask him to shut down the internet (to stop muh terrorists)
>removed judges at will
>tried to pardon himself (tfw to smart for law and shit)
>used the presidency to siphon off government money for himself and his friends
>contracted his own companies for government programs, essentially pocketing taxes
>had a piss party with Russian hookers
>took advice from Alex Jones before the election on how to defeat the interdimensional, satanic lizard people in the govt
>climate denier
>STILL thinks that gases can't escape a room with a closed door
>when he shakes hands he grabs their hand and yanks it, walks around without letting go for 30seconds
>fired people because he didn't like their tie
>fired people because he didn't like their facial hair
>believes he is a genius
>does whatever Saudi and Israel tell him to
>wants to "bomb the shit" out of the middle east (again)

What a loser.

>>3138034
>expecting something different for american "democracy".

This is the president you deserve burger.

>>3138049
Yes he is we deserve an actual president rather than the piece of shit we had for the past 8 years.

>>3138034
>contracted his own companies for government programs, essentially pocketing taxes
Is that legal? Doesn't sound legal

>>3138034
>>climate denier
I'm pretty sure Trump thinks that climates exist

>>3135556
You left out the best part
>During Macías Nguema's government, the country had neither a development plan nor an accounting system for government funds. After the killing of the governor of the Central Bank, he carried everything that remained in the national treasury to his house in a rural village.

>>3135497
He was a utopian socialist who wanted to wind back capitalism rather than replace it with something newer.

Pol Pot certainly wasn't a Marxist and was obsessed with French philosophy. He wanted to create a communism as laid out by Proudhon, Babeuf, and arguably Rousseau.

>>3137064
You really think Africa would be better off as thousands of homogeneous nation states, versus 20 heterogeneous states?

>>3136223
Everywhere on the planet, leaders tend to be people who are charismatic and well-connected, rather than skilled or well-educated.

In a region with as little development as Africa, demagogues sometimes rise to power with absolutely no political experience or understanding.

>>3138235
If he does get impeached (which probably will not happen) it would be for something like this, not Russia

>>3135583
Kino

>>3137758
Then why don't you go burn down all your ID cards, passport and national flags? You fucking cuck.

>>3137758
>t. rootless cosmopolitan whore

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>>3138034
>talking about a mass murderer that no sane non-faggot defends
>leftypol defends him and deflects to Trump
Pottery

>>3137806
>the US. No proper nationalism with state pride...
This is what leftcuck / libercuck actually believe....

They not only have "state pride" but also have rampant "faggot pride" same as Europe, which is even more toxic and disgusting nowadays.

>>3138517
He was too pure for this shitty world.

>>3137816
Patriotism, not nationalism you stupid fuck

>>3138625
Lol

>>3136448
Khmer Rouge fell in 1979, people started returning to the cities. They didn't just massacre the cities they relocated them to small villages to form an agrarian society.

>>3135583
Sounds like something out of a metal gear solid game.

>>3136304
He tried to develop his nation a bit, but he ended up basically pay his citizens not to riot. Hardly among the best.

>>3135519
The Burmese dictator had a fear of integers of 5, he made his money in denominations of THREES.

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>>3135519
>>3135556
>" His full self-bestowed title ultimately became: "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular"

>>3135583
>record scratch
>freeze frame
>now you're probably wondering how i got in this situation

If he's such a communist, why is his name /pol/ pot?

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>>3138939
>Lefty/pol/ pot

>>3138939
Pol Pot stands for Political Potential, which is what French Marxists called him.

>>3137727
Eradicating a culture is a form of genocide/ethnic cleansing and it doesn't require massacring the population to accomplish it. Look at Latin America.

>>3135519
those are straight lies spread by buttsore opposition and never proved

>>3138886
Who are then among the best?

>>3136304
Kagame is still running an extremely tight ship over in Rwanda.

>>3135486
You're a bad person

>>3136304
I mean that he seems like the last one who didn't just inherit it from his father and do the same gimmicks he did, not that he's still around.

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>>3137779
>>3138568
>>3138583

Delicious /pol/ tears

>>3139451
>I have severe autism!
>fuck off autist
>Haha, nice butthurt!

>>3135473
He was backed up by the CIA,if you still think he was a communist then you aren't very smart

>>3139488
Fuck you he was the closest to pure communism the world has ever had. Not his fault that the french intentionally set up post colonial cambodia to be a tire fire if anything but (((capitalism))) was tried.

>>3139518
In what way was he closest to "pure communism"?

>>3135583
The song fits the whole crazy guy executing people after he's gotten the power situation, 8/10 execution song choice

>>3135583
>>3135556
That's one of my favorite songs ever, what a cool guy!

>>3138978
Hate this fucking meme. If food availability had really declined in the long term after communists took over Russia, China, and Vietnam, the simultaneous increase in population and life expectancy would not be possible.

The Brits have even surpassed Italians in creating lewd gameshows

>>>/int/77576662

How can spaghetti niggers EVEN COMPETE?

>>3139458

>disliking nationalism is autism

>>3139700
Probably the single most autistic thing people do with their minds, just below becoming "anti-theists"

>>3139624
>holodomor
>iron rice bowl
Gee, I wonder where this meme came from?

>>3139913
The meme isn't "famines happened"

The meme is "people in communist societies were hungrier than they had been in preceding decades", and it's patently false

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>>3139624
commies breed like rabbits comrade.

>>3139926
No I'm pretty sure the meme is that famines happened (which is true), you're just too much of an ass-blasted leftypol ideologue to accept that

>>3139935
If there was constant starvation, how could life have been improving by every QoL indicator?

>>3140010
Nobody denies that famines happened. The question is to what degree socialistic policies can be implicated.

>>3139926
Collectivization has always produced a famine. Stay mad, Comrade Dipshit.

>>3140113
Pretty heavily lad

>>3135893
Idi Amin is a top tier whacko and I am sad he never got that boxing match with Julius Nyerere but he was little more than a goofball with a penchant for ethnic cleansing, torture and showing his ass off on the world stage. Pol Pot was something out of an incredibly edgy Manga. Pol Pot had more vision. Oddly enough, their reigns ended up ending similarly; they got to big for their britches and they picked a fight with a larger neighbor

>>3139624
> There's one ... about a labor camp in Gansu ... where there were more than 3,000 "rightists." Now some prisoners in labor camp get special privileges. They might get extra grain, or they might be allowed visits from their relatives, things like that. This is in return for special jobs they do. There are three people here, named. Wei Changhai. Rightist. His job? To sell dead bodies.

When I was in labor camp, there was a guy like that. He drove the truck out every day to sell dead bodies. Sometimes I went with him. They all had enough grain to eat, those guys. He looked pretty healthy.... They were so strong, not like us who looked like we might keel over any minute. We asked our brigade leader why this was, and he said, "I'll show you something." He took us to the graveyard, which was a huge area of wasteland where they would dig pits, throw in the bodies, and then cover them up again.

It was a ghastly chaos. One would have an arm broken, another a leg missing, one would be naked. He dug one up and said "Look!" The body's clothing was ripped open and their chest had been cut open too. There was no flesh on the body's bones. It was skin on a frame of bone. You couldn't eat the flesh on those bodies because there was nothing on them. But when we looked inside, we saw that the heart, liver, and lungs were gone.

http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/cannibalism-11222013104349.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3IUU59B6lw

Is he right lads?

>>3140755
>RFA
Really nigger?

>>3141511
Oh sorry anon, I hope this next website will be good according your standards.

http://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub6/item2854.html#chapter-8

>>3141508
Damn, Chomsky's great at avoiding answering questions.

>>3141569
How does he avoid answering the question.
The question was have you finally seen the light on the atrocities of Pol Pot and he walked through his thought process precisely and why he believes what he does.

>>3135556
>>3135583
>Just imagine for one moment, you're tied to a wooden pole in the middle of a large football stadium, in front of you are several soldiers dressed as (pic related) and from the main speakers you can here the following song:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DQepQaporY [Embed]
>I mean how do you comprehend that?

Directed by Christopher Nolan

>>3136329
>that pic

I mean it's not even ironic or funny. It's actually impressive.

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I'm sick of all you fucking post industrialists criticizing Pol Pot and his policies. Pol Pot was and remains a hero to the Khmer people as well as humanity, he was a beacon of light in the industrial wasteland which was being perpetuated around him. After the industrial revolution humanity has increasingly become alienated and thus Pol Pot had a grand vision of establishing and agrarian society which would truly be free. He only wished the best for his people and for them to live in a peaceful agrarian society without the alienating forces of modern society like education, healthcare and in general industrial and post industrial technology. The only problem his revolutionary regime encountered was that the Cambodian population was well over the limits that could be sustained with the adaption of agrarianism and thus those who could not work in the fields like mankind should were lost. Hopefully one day the world will realize the genius of Pol Pot and we will abandon this alienated modern society in place for a truly free agrarian society.

No gain in keeping, no loss in weeding out!

>>3142127
Is that an actual poster from democratic Kampuchea? Obviously it's been photoshopped a little bit but I've never seen any propaganda posters from that time period.

>>3135630
prime example what happens when you bite the hand that feeds you. (((((((((((((((hand)))))))))))))))))

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>>3142127
>pol pot was a autoriatarian anprim

>>3136572
Venezuela is not a dictatorship you moron.

Maduro and the socialist party just lost the parlamentary elections in 2015. He will most likely lose the presidential elections next year too.

>>3137040
FUKEN KULAK SHITS!

>>3137040
This, that's why neo-liberalism's so good. It's destroyed the peasant class and left us to be ruled by the progressive, beautiful bourgeois class, with their superior beliefs about how great it is to take cock up your ass

>>3139528
In the sense that he killed a lot of dudes and communism=satan, of course.

>>3143041
That and also agrarianism is more gooder and he brought the country p. close to having just one class

>>3135473

reminder that Varg literally has the exact same ideology as Pol Pot

>>3143047
kek
He's such a fuckin autist, but I love him

>>3137758
Nationalism is just a logical extension of tribalism, which is deeply embedded in the hman psyche due to 200k years of human evolution. Communism is a jerk off philosophy invented by a fat lazy Jew. Don't ever compare them again, faggot.

>>3143047
Can you develop your argument? My knowledge of Varg is limited to memes about his murder of the Mayhem guy.

>>3143088

Varg hates modern society, specifically civilization because its jewish.

Varg hates nationalism and the idea of states, he wants to live in "Europe" not in the nation state of norway or france

Varg wants to return to basically a primordial tribal society of small local tribes living across europe, like germanic barbarians in the days of the roman empire, (the romans are the bad civilized people and probably jews to)

>>3142950
it is, though, if he wasn't he would be out already

>>3137727
Linguistic genocide, cultural genocide, mass deportation

it's kind of insane how he pretty much got away with it too

some time under house arrest in his final years isn't all that much of a punishment

also, rips to shreds the delusion that america was ever "anticommunist" ideologically, when they gladly teamed up with china to protect the khmer rouge from the vietnamese

>>3136304
Central Asia has some fun ones

>>3142826
kek

>>3142950
Didn't he have the congress dissolved.

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>>3142950
Venezuela is a pseudo-democracy like the rest of latin american shitholes. they have the president they deserve.

>>3143464
This. Fuck america and their twisted sense of morality.

>>3143464
America's an Anglo power at the end of the day. The pretend eras of "anti-fascism" and "anti-communism" it goes through are just the modern extension of England's ancient practice of siding with whatever continental power was weaker against the stronger one