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How did he achieve what no other emperor or dictator could in history: total submission and unquestionable loyalty of the populace?
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>>3122570
>How did he achieve what no other emperor or dictator could in history
Many other leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro and Papa Doc have done that.
> total submission and unquestionable loyalty of the populace?
Brainwashing of the populace, using real fears (American invasion and destruction of Korea) to his favor and consolidating power, brainwashing people, secret police, jailing and execution of dissidents, selected truth regarding the outside world and extreme border regulation.
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>>3122580

Are people really that easy to manipulate?
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He didn't achieve it. He inherited a system.
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>>3122583
hahahaha
yes

When you have absolute total control over the media, the education system and the military and police you can pretty much do anything. There are still older people in Eastern Europe that still parrot communist propaganda lies.
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>>3122586
>He didn't achieve it. He inherited a system.
This. Probably 99% of the population grew up in the regime.
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>>3122583
Yes, especially when 98% of them aren't allowed to leave and everything they've read or heard on the radio and TV praises glory upon one man.
>>3122586
he consolidated and created it somewhat. Kim Sung-Il and his still living brother were actually more like classical Marxists instead of the extreme cult of personality it is today.
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>>3122570
When your country gets literally flattened and almost third of your population gets wiped out by some assholes from the other side of the world, and the guy who's in charge successfully makes it look like HE single-handedly saved the country and its people from complete annihilation, he can pretty much sit back and enjoy instant ascension to living godhood and eternal devotion of the populace.
If anyone thinks the fanaticism of north koreans and their hatred against America aren't genuine, he's a fucking idiot.
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>>3122593

Why are humans so weak? :(

I would just kms if I had to live in a system like that with no hope or prospects of a revolution.
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>>3122570
because he is the son of a god.
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>>3122608


You probably are living in a similar system already.
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>>3122593
> There are still older people in Eastern Europe that still parrot communist propaganda lies.
is what they say anymore propaganda than what you think, say, do and aim for in your life? activates my almonds...
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>>3122570
he did nothing, it's his father and grandfather who did it.
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>>3122608
You probably wouldn't realize it with how much of a walled garden NK is.
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>>3122623
>everything is propaganda, there's no truth or lies
wow so deep
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>>3122605
>Kim Sung-Il and his still living brother
Kim il sungs brother is still alive?
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>>3122636
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Yong-ju

Also
>It was the period when the WPK was focusing ideologically on Kim Il-sung's Juche; while Kim Jong-il actively stood for this process, Kim Yong-ju, having studied in Russia, supported a more classical view of Marxism and was not fond of the extensive personality cult built around his brother.[3]

He used to be strongly opposed to Juche and the formation of the cult of personality in the 60s and 70s.
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>>3122570
Asians
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>>3122570
Asians are insect-like and soulless creatures.
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>>3122634
that's not what i said. there are truths and falsehoods, but you yourself are might be an imperfect instrument to make that judgement.
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>>3122570
>unquestionable loyalty of the populace
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>>3122690
Hmm... the people in OP's picture don't look insect-like or soulless, they just look brainwashed or like they're acting.
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Same shit happens in American "democracy".

>cult of personality
What is Mount Rushmore?

>glorification of miliary
Come on.

>no free speech
Have fun having your voice heard if you don't have a view approved by the capitalist media.

>Founding myths
Washington chopping down the cherry tree, the idea that America was founded on anything other than black and brown slavery and exploitation

Long live Juche. Hands of North Korea, Syria, and Venezuela!
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>>3122724
Are you serious? The media and internet aren't nearly as censored by burgers, you are free to leave if you want and there aren't nearly as many government inferences in daily life. America really isn't a democracy. You could've made a point by saying that propaganda controls the will of the people, and that democracies aren't really free.
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>>3122690
>Asians are insect-like and soulless creatures.
Nah. Only Koreans. There's only one notable Korean revolt: the Tonghak Rebellion.

Meanwhile China and Japan overthrew failing governments as a hobby.
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>>3122570
He and his family are somewhat deified and almost have mythology surrounding them kinda like Hirohito in the 30's and 40's but with actual power and the country has also developed an extremely effective cult of personality. People you see crying at the funeral of Kim Jon Il were not acting many were very genuine and even some defectors return.
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>>3122746
Huh? The history of South Korea is full of political upheaval. And what about the Gwangju Uprising?
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>>3122736
>America really isn't a democracy.
I think it is (well, a republic, but you know what I mean). It's just that most people don't vote in most elections.
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>>3122570
Isolated country + Stalinism.

Pretty simple really. Like tankies.
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>>3122570
Any proofs of "unquestionable loyalty"? Many North Koreans hate this scrub.
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>>3122784
>Many North Koreans hate this scrub.
[citation needed]
who are you to make such a sweeping statement?
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>>3122750
There are also many defectors in jail in South Korea because the authoritarian regime there doesn't allow them to return to North Korea.
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>>3122798
every north korean escapee says the same
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>>3122607
>how dare you defend a democratically elected government from a Stalin and Mao backed despot, all those deaths are your fault
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>>3122861
>ROK
>democracy
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>>3122583
Notice how the concerns of the people are perfectly correlated with how much the TV and the Press talk about them, even in the West. It's literally about creating context and narrative.
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>>3122861
worst korea was a fucking dictatorship you braindead yank
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>>3122882
Of course it is, democracy doesnt mean elections.
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>>3122724
>>>/leftypol/
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>>3122724
Venezuelan here, please put hot lead through the roof of your mouth ASAP or just come here theres 30,000 murders a year so an edgy little first world faggot would be easy pickings at the food ration line.
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>>3122570
Plus they have a good quality of life
Capitalism its not the only way
Another economic system instead of capitalism doesnt mean necesaarily pooverty or unhappiness
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>>3123390
dayyyyum. Venezuela bringing the caliente!!!! SNAP!
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enjoying this bread while waiting to take ein shit tbqhonest
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>>3123390
Venezuelan here too, 30 000 people are Kulaks.
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>>3122882
>>3123067
Syngman Rhee got over a million votes, he was beloved by the people and many in North Korea would have voted for him too if they were allowed to.
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