Porn didn`t exist back in the day, masturbation wasn`t allowed

>>3119828
>masturbation wasn't allowed
>therefore, no one masturbated

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Q: what is the world's oldest profession?

>masturbation wasn`t allowed and sex before marriage was a no go

medieval Europeans weren't all super-pious puritans

>>3119828
>pic unrelated
the guy in your pic masturbated on the streets

They masturbated and had premarital sex. Sexual motivations are among the most powerful ones in humans. Repressive morals don't do shit. Casual sex wasn't invented 70 years ago like traditionalists think.

>>3119845
Also that smaller human is known as a chicken, and it looks as if he's choking it

>>3119828
People masturbated. Also, prostitution. Plus sex before marriage did occur even if it was frowned upon.

>>3119828
People masturbated and had pre-marital sex just as much as nowadays. It's just that they were more secretive about it. You probably wouldn't even tell your closest friends because most people would be ashamed of it. But they did it anyways.

Another fact: Abortion methods did exist as well.

>>3120266
The Romans discovered a plant that induced abortion pretty much painlessly, and used it so much it became extinct.

>>3120288
yes, and there were other more dangerous methods as well... such as crudely inserting a pointy stick inside the vagina, or simply pushing the abdomen.

>>3119828
Masturbation "isn't allowed" either nowadays and still people do it. Ffs m8

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>>3119828
>Porn didn`t exist back in the day
U wot m8? Also masturbation is older than humanity. For fucks sake your "unrelated" pic was infamous for jerking off publicly.
Whorehouses and free roaming whores were fucking everywhere.

>>3119841

Is that a bath tub with a table in it?

>>3119841
>Western Ganachakra

If I watch porn and masturbate, but am a virgin, am I still considered pure by Christian standards? What about hentai?

You have to pick a time period and a place. Japan in the 1700's and France in the 1100's can both be called "back in the day", but they were not the same.

>>3119849
>>3120266

This is completely historically inaccurate. Why do some peoplr think people always hsd the same mindset of modern people?

>>3119828
>Porn didn`t exist back in the day, masturbation wasn`t allowed and sex before marriage was a no go.
I smirked.

>>3120534
Enjoy hell.

>>3120534
Is Jesus your savior? Do you have a relationship with God? These are the things that determine your salvation, not a list of merits and demerits. No one is 'Pure" without Jesus redeeming sacrifice.

>>3120543
Because masturbation jokes and references to premarital sex were found carved into the fucking walls of Pompeii. [spoiler]Also because human brains haven't meaningfully changed on a genetic level throughout all of human civilization and a lot more of human behavior is predicated by brain structure than people are comfortable with.[/spoiler]

>>3120543
>People wanting to fuck is a modern phenomena not hardwired in our bloody brains
ok mr.post-modern.

>>3119828
>masturbation wasn`t allowed and sex before marriage was a no go
in what? 1900 USA? Rest of the world never had problem with brothels, not even the Greek or Romans

>>3120603
The equivalent of bathroom graffiti is not enough evidence to say how all of humanity acted in all its history.

And ideology affects how people act. People born in 1890 had a much smaller number of sexual partners than those born in 1940/50.

>>3120612
Judging that you have no self control whatsoever on your sexual desire and that you should act on it is.

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>>3120599
>t.

>>3120599
Can you define "Jesus" and can you define "savior?
And what do you mean with "relationship" and "God"?
Serious questions.

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>>3121320
Jesus of Nazareth was a peasant born in Roman occupied Galilee, who gave up worldly life after his baptism by the itinerant preacher John the Baptist. For a short period of time, he taught a moral system of humanly goodness that he saw as the true will of God, and not the arbitrary Law set forth by Hebrew society.
Savior refers to his teachings setting you free from want and the sin which want drives out of men. If all men were to live in accordance with his will, the all of Earth would be a Kingdom of Heaven, as man would be following the natural Will of God.
God is the arbiter of the Universe, or an abstraction of Cosmic Action and Evolutionary consequence.
Relationship is how man acts in accordance with this.

"Rape" was a sport back then.

>>3121368
That's a nice image, but I'm not baiting. What I don't like about what was said in your comment and >>3120599 too is that these expressions are very subjective. I mean, let's pick relationship, for example. "how man acts in accordance with this". I can just ignore it, and that would be a relationship by your definition of relationship. In that way, according to your own words, I would be saved. What bothers me is that I have to actually do something to go to Heaven (if it exists), just being the lazy and saying "oh, I repent it ;)" probably won't work. I mean, technically, I can say I believe in God and Jesus, and maybe I even mean it, but I guess that's not enough. Whatever. I think this is more of a general complaint that life sucks & I probably will go to Hell anyway as opposed to an argument. I hope that, if God exists, He at least doesn't send me to Hell. Pray for my soul if you will.

>>3119828
Rape. Im not kidding you

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>>3119828
>masturbation wasn`t allowed

>>3119828
>Porn didn`t exist back in the day
There's a little thing named imagination. You should try it
>masturbation wasn`t allowed and sex before marriage was a no go
Murder is illegal, but there's still murderer.

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>>3119828
>masturbation wasn`t allowed and sex before marriage was a no go.

>>3119828
Visit a Muslim country and ask there.

>>3119828
god doesn't see it when you do it in bed

>>3120653
1. You're moving the goalposts. Most people TODAY aren't constantly having casual sex 24/7: contemporary studies indicate that the mean average of sexual partners a person will have in their lifetime is seven (and this number is doubtlessly dragged upwards by a bias towards high-partner outliers over low-partner outliers). The topic of this thread is "if people didn't have porn and didn't masturbate and have casual sex, how did they deal with rampant sexual desire?" The answer is "your question is built on a faulty premise: pornography, masturbation, and casual sex have existed throughout human history, even if taboos surrounding them, demographic usage, etc. were different in different time periods". Now, you're moving the goalpost to a claim that implies that everyone in the modern day uses porn, masturbates, has casual sex, or a combination of the three. which is empirically false.
2. Prove that the average human being at the end of the 19th century had "far fewer" (which I believe can be reasonably defined as "a 33% or greater difference") average sexual partners than someone in the same population 60 years later, AND that this difference was exclusively due to ideological shifts, and not some other factor. No anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 "you first"
The theory I'm asserting makes fewer claims, and therefore requires less evidence.

>>3119828
>masturbation wasn`t allowed
People didn't dislike Diogenes because he masturbated, they disliked him because he was a homeless man who masturbated in public.

>>3123969
1- You were the one arguing that casual sex was common, without even mentioning in which era. Sexual morals change from time to time.

2-

http://www.norc.org/PDFs/Publications/AmericanSexualBehavior2006.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3532829/

>>3124147
>>3123969
Also, I wonder, what kind of person who posts on the "History & Humanities" board had no idea that the Sexual Revolution happened?

That the Sexual Revolution happened is something that no one (outside of this board) argues.

>>3124147
1. I wasn't trying to say it was common, I was trying to say it EXISTED. Sorry if that came out weird, English is not my first language.
2. Well, that's interesting, but I'd argue that part of why this sort of thing, like the Sexual Revolution, happened was the increased availability of birth control, abortion, etc. in the 20-21st centuries.

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>>3120543

Dude. The crusaders literally had a bunch of prostitutes follow them around.

So much so they figured they need to send them out of the camp so god would favor them when they attacked Jerusalem.

https://books.google.com/books?id=AkCKZ9Hs4-QC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=expelled+prostitutes+from+camp+siege+of+jerusalem&source=bl&ots=3UjPsVouhx&sig=eDIQL2hur_LeIs6LUqjWS23ZsOo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKrNTzwJ3VAhWBjz4KHV9PAXkQ6AEIJDAA#v=onepage&q=expelled%20prostitutes%20from%20camp%20siege%20of%20jerusalem&f=false

Actually it was kind of a ritual by the 4th crusade.

"Ok. Dudes. In order for this battle to be successful we need to expel the whores again!"

But then after battle crusaders would get drunk and fuck a bunch of bitches again.

>>3124189
STOP YOU FUCKING KEK
MUHFUGEN KNIGS WUZ PURE AN SHIEEET

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>>3124189

Did they have any drawings of these prostitutes?

I'd like to see them for historical research purposes.