Is it fair to say that Romans were evil imperialists and that it is good that they were defeated eventually?
>>3106118
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>>3106118
I have some suspicions about OP
>conquer's and civilizes known world
>genocides Jews and Germans
What's the problem?
>>3106118
The truth is Rome was pretty shit, kind of like the Ottoman empire. They simply had areas where no humans wanted to go, it was first when they started to go away from their desert areas that they encountered resistance, since everyone knows the value of green land. The Romans were simply lazy coastal dwellers.
>>3106118
sure, if we think our present morals and social conditioning are immutable and that all of history is a journey to this point, which means that all parts where it has fallen short of our current standards can and must be subject to condemnation.
>>3106521
they feared the persian warrior
>>3106118
They weren't really defeated, at least not in any time frame that could be really considered "defeat."
They were evil imperialists, but they were evil imperialists who codified western civilization. Most civil law codes in Europe today are still ultimately derived from the Corpus Juris Civilis.
>>3106521
>Italia
>6th-2nd century BC
>Desert
Average precipitation in this era was considerably wetter than current times and the south of Italy was known as an agricultural breadbasket.
>>3106118
>Imperialism is bad
>>3106118
"Evil" is a tough subject in history, anon. If you consider the age-old principle of might is right & conquering others to be wrong, then, sure. However, Rome spread the Hellenistic philosophies to western Europe, as well as the concept of the republic, engineering feats, etc. etc., so its a bit more grey.
>it is good that they were defeated eventually?
Their collapse, though tragic, set the stage for a properly fractured Europe, which in turn meant that the countries of Europe had a proper reason to compete - as opposed to China for instance, who crushed most other competing powers due to its sheer weight. Competition breeds innovation, so it could be argued that, without Rome's fall and the rise of subsequent, competing powers, Europe would not have risen to be world hegemon. Whether that's "good" is again up to interpretation.
>>3106118
Their influence was more good than bad, which is evident from the results of their collapse and the dominance of those who sought to emulate them, like the Franks.