Sup /his/
I'm watching this video of Thomas Sowell, about his book "Conquest and Cultures", and he makes an interesting point:
The radical difference of the kinds of animals found in Europe and Americas for taming and labor.
Like there was no cow, horse, camels or Ox alike in Americas to plow or transportation.
i fund very interesting point the ability of theming animals and the development of civilization itself.
Anyone here has some material about or something like that I can read? is this discussion suitable for this board?
>>3098568
why didn't they just domesticate the buffalo?
Sounds like Guns, Germs, and Steel.
>>3098603
Yep, i know this work, but i was searching something more like :
how human "enslavement" of animal " is indistinguishable from civilization process.
>>3098568
This is pretty common knowledge here, lurk more newfag OP
The available plants matter more tee bee aytch
>>3098603
Thomas Sowell's culture series predates Guns, Germs, and Steal.
>>3099064
But! Y no farming in north america like aztecs etc furthermore Y no domesticated turkey???? Like chicken in the old world.
>>3099562
Alright fair point. Injuns might actually be retarded. They don't go bald though.
>>3099562
There was lots of farming in North America. Pretty much everywhere besides the great plains and great basin was practicing agriculture. And the turkey was domesticated, in Mesoamerica.
>>3098568
This is a fine point, but there's no reason to think the geography wouldn't provide a feedback mechanism to the genome. This would only be accelerated by the advent of civilization and widespread conquest and genocide. I haven't seen this vid but if it's along the lines of GG&S as other anons are saying, it's only one side of the story. I would check out "the 10,000 year explosion"
>>3098568
He's a sellout coon. Don't bother with his bullshit, he's a pawn for the white man.
>>3099064
>As I said previously Sowel is /ourguy/, most of /his/ points are quality.
fuck off, sowell shill. he's just mediocre ideologue who /pol/ likes to elevate to signal "im not racist! look i like this house nigger who also thinks niggers are lazy!"
>>3098568
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/06/010608081621.htm
Huh, what did they mean by this?
>>3098568
Well many parts of Central and South America did have access to Llamas, and as it turns out those do seem to be the places where they've established more of a civilization rather than just tribes and confederacies.
Horses were domesticated on anatolian lands. Eurangutans didn't do nuffin but steal that merit from them.
Llamas and vicunas have been bred to give them wool, meat and some help for carrying weight.
Amerindians were in the beginning of the bronze age even though they reached America 15000 years after eurangutans settled on europe.
Incas were superior to europeans. Get over it.
>>3099707
>"im not racist! look i like this house nigger who also thinks niggers are lazy!"
How is that wrong? There are very vew negros like Sowell who reject the negro "victim" culture.
>>3099707
Assblasted nigger who is perpetually butthurt over Thomas Sowel calling out nigger culture detecdted.
>>3100677
>Central America
>llamas
>>3098568
>the ability of theming animals and the development of civilization itself.
That's great and everything, but Mesoamerica had no access to tamed beasts of burden and they developed several highly advanced cultures.
There's also evidence of the development of similar cultures in the American Southwest and Plains before the abandoning of the developing cities in said area (eg. Chaco Canyon, Cahokia etc) for some reason.
>>3098603
Guns, Germs, and Steel reads more like an excuse generator for Sub-Saharan Africa's lack of a cradle of civilization and actively ignores the cradles of civilization in the Andes and Mesoamerica.
>>3098568
>yfw he put "Akshully Irish were practically slaves too" meme in his otherwise well done Black Rednecks and White Liberals
ffs man, why did he have to put this /pol/-tier garbage in his book
>His later columns comparing Obama to Hitler
Really disappointing stuff.
>>3099707
>who /pol/ like to elevate
As usual, /pol/ doesn't know what the fuck it's talking about. Yes, they try to pass Sowell off as the "le based redpilled black guy", but that's not actually who he is. Read his response to the Bell Curve, he's pretty good at putting neo-nazi "muh IQ disparity" stuff in the trash.
>>3098568
>An economist tries to speak like he knows shit about history.
Already watched this episode
>>3102419
>What is timbuktu
>>3099707
It's true and it's a shame seeing him used that way. Sowell's stuff is genuinely must-read. And not in a "he's great relative to low black standards" kind of way. No, his stuff is genuinely recommended reading by normal standards.
>>3103260
Unfortunately, he occasionally espouses shitty conservatard talking points. But the good points he does make, make up for it imo.
>>3103297
Arab colony
>>3103313
Explain Ashanti, Mali, Loango, Swahili
>>3103297
A meme really. It was the biggest center of scholarship in West Africa, but West Africa itself was peripheral to the Islamic world so that doesn't mean much, plus by the time it became a center of scholarship the Islamic world was already growing intellectually stagnant. So nothing important ever came out of it.
>>3103313
Also a meme. It was founded by local Tuareg nomads and it's scholars were mostly local, though often claiming distant Arab ancestry as Muslims everywhere tended to do.
>it's a black economics pop"sci" episode
>>3099707
>studying human history
>believes the races to be equal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoNhacojmM
>>3098568
Someone probably already recommend it but I'm not reading the thread. In case they haven't, check out Guns, Germs, and Steel
>>3098619
There's a great chapter about domestication of farm animals, and of crops themselves, in "Sapiens: A Brief History of Mankind". I think the section in the book fits your description perfectly.
>>3098601
The American Bison "buffalo" is 6 feet tall and 2000 pounds. They can outrun and out jump a horse.
they also don't have an exploitable family structure. one of the ways you tame and domesticate animals, is by making humans recognized as the alpha of an animal's social group. some herd animals don't have alphas and just form massive herds for mutual protection.
>>3098858
corn, potatoes, squash, beans, etc
they had advanced farming techniques like Three Sisters and dead fish for fertilizer.
>>3103424
Mansa is 100% west african