How can average IQ in China be around 105 when most of the population

>>3094668
Genetics you idiot.
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>>3094668

They cheat.

Because China is extremely corrupt and Chinese students lie and cheat constantly. + only the people worth being educated are educated well and most of the population is ignored for such polls.

t. Chinaman

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>>3094668
>ost of the population is dirt poor farmers with barely any education
But that's wrong you fucking retard.

>>3094679
Doesn't successfull cheating imply being clever?

>>3094668
Confucianism creates worker ant mentality.

>>3094687
>About 35 percent of China's labor force is in agriculture (compared to 2.5 percent in the U.S.). There are 425 million agricultural workers (200 million farming households) in China. A little over a decade ago China was home to 700 million farmers. They made up about 60 percent of the population.
Fucking retard yourself.

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Anyone who believes that pic is retarded

>>3094668
Chinks have great big brains. There's about 40% correlation between brain size and IQ.

>>3094699

>>3094699
China also has the biggest urban population in the world, and it's only growing at extremely high rates. It's well over 56% at this point. Compared to say, 2010 when it was 49%.

>>3094675
Hong Kong scores the highest on IQ tests in the world. They do better than China but they are also Chinese. What does this mean?

>>3094739
Cantonese are the master race.

When they conducted the polls for IQ they only polled urban areas in China

>>3094668
Last time I posted this shit for fun I got banned, lol.

>>3094792
This is true.

An accurate Chinese would be at around 100(higher than US average(98)), given the large disparity between urban/rural. If their rural states develop in the coming decades, this average will rise back up to ~105 or even 108 like other developed East Asian countries. However that will take few more decades.

Source for the 100 is "Infrastructure and Productivity in Asia" book.

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>>3094668

>>3094668
>believing the Chinese
HAHAHAHAHA

>>3094668
I.Q is mostly just a test. And like most tests, if you study hard enough you can do well above average(see scores of Indian immigrants in the U.S.)>>3094899

/thread.
Also, don't some African tribes not even ave a written language? How the fuck are they administering a useful IQ test to these people?

>>3094835
I'm funnier than you, it seems.

>>3094914
>underestimating the Chinese
HAHAHAHAHA

>>3094668
I actually believe that. They are bunch of sly, crafty, underhanded bastards. Jews of the east Asia, maybe even worse.

>>3094668
worth noting that High IQ =/= achievement. Most Chinese are born into poverty and the economy offers no outlets for opportunity

ITT : damage control

>>3094700
>basing an opinion of the chinks based on their performance more than a century ago

imagine being this dumb
also remember that the brits already passed over Hong Kong back to China m80

>IQ tests
Lol fuckin retards

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>haha these iq test shows that nogs are huge ass retard subhumans
>oh wow these chinks have a higher score than us this means that theyre invalid

what do they mean by this?

Read about the Flynn effect.

IQ shifts with development. IQ doesn't explain stats faliure in Africa. Africans now are at early 20th century American and European levels.

>>3094668
Aren't studies made in China usually falsified in some way?

>>3095186

You either have to assume the Chinese are lying (they are) or that they are actually a standard deviation smarter than rich nations, have a better education system, and have no crime, but still manage to have about 1/5th rich nations per capital income and produce a comparitively tiny amount of patents and inventions.

>>3094899
>ISGP-studies
>site full of conspiracy theories

Stop.

>>3095277

...do you actually think that the relative wealth of different nations is constant? Why are you on a history board?

>>3094675
/thread-ing yourself after a shit tier pol answer

kys

>>3094668
They might be lying but also the conditions a man is living in do not determine the IQ some has, that was exactly the problem with the first IQ test created which was optimal for urban people.

It's genes my friend.

>>3095392

> Implying I implied that.

According to the Chinese they have far superior K-12 education when compared to America or Germany.

They are also apparently have higher IQs.

Yet they do very little innovation and instead invest in a huge espionage apparatus and copy Western innovations.

They absolutely destroy the GRE, but where is the huge wave of Chinese scholars?

Having worked in admissions and TA'd, it's pretty comical to see Chinese who are top quintile in English verbal reasoning according to the GRE who can barely write coherent English. They pay full price though so they always get in.

>>3095603
>Yet they do very little innovation and instead invest in a huge espionage apparatus and copy Western innovations.
Americans copied from the german/french/british when they were start up.
The pre-industrial europeans copied from the arabs.
The arabs from the greeks/indians.

Growing countries always copy first and then innovate.

>where is the huge wave of Chinese scholars?
Chinese students have been taking over many of the top universities. Infact in the US, there's a bamboo ceiling so the asian-americans don't outnumber the whites in the higher ed system. The only state that doesn't allow this is california. In this you see the Chinese higher ed students outnumbering the whites.

>>3095590

But that isn't true.

Environment has a huge impact on IQ. Genetics only explains a large chunk of variance when you look at people living in largely similar environments.

IQ has risen almost two standard deviations since the 1930s. That's not from changing genetics.

>>3095635

Asian Americans go to American schools.

As for Chinese at top schools, I know. They pay full sticker price. They get let in even if they are grossly unqualified and rubber stamped through.

I had graduate students who literally couldn't write 8th grade English getting Master's degrees and we're a top 10 school.

The Chinese will pay the ridiculous sticker price and their rampant cheating means they inflate a schools apparent admissions standards.

>>3094899
>Bushmen: 54 (39 lowest)
IQ is a spook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o

>>3095672
Huge number of non-Asian Americans Chinese are flooding the top universities. With the bamboo ceiling in place, they get pushed out to lesser universities/colleges.

The rich Chinese can easily afford the sticker price and the school will look the other way when they cheat because donations/money.

>>3095140
Please screenshot a single post that states those two things at the same time. Are you sure you're not conflating different people? Do you know that /pol/ doesn't deny that Asians have a higher IQ than whites?

>>3095637
No, not really. There's the g factor.

>>3095769
>/pol/ doesn't deny that Asians have a higher IQ than whites
But that doesn't mean they're smarter than whites. Its only culture. If they're truly smarter, how come they're poorer than Americans?

Checkmate Chang

>>3095787

Great argument. Solid evidence.

>>3095769
Anon didn't mention /pol/

>>3094899
What these IQ tests don't account for women menstruating who have shown to have astronomically high intelligence levels for that brief period of time. Suppose the women tested were on their cycles at this time, it could manipulate the numbers. Not to mention some countries have caught on to this and scored higher than others.

>>3095862
Funny thing is by assuming he did he pretty much outted himself as /pol/. Why else would he react so defensively.

>>3095828
The very existence of the g factor pretty much disproves your constructivist claim you retard. It's solid 70/30, mostly on heritability.

>>3095877

> The creation of a purely theoretical measure of "general intelligence," by scientists proves anything about the heritability of intelligence.

You're just throwing out random words from psych 101 aren't you?

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>>3094899
>86% white
>argentina

why is India's IQ so low? I'm pretty sure Indians are smart

>>3097209
There are more poor people born in India than India can educate them.

This run away effect leads to lower IQ. Like China, when they're both developed properly, their IQ will rise up. China's IQ is ~100 for average but its true IQ will probably be 105 once they've developed the rural sides.

Likewise, India's IQ right now is a ~85 due to them have shitloads(pardon the pun) of poor and undereducated people. Once they develop, they'll be around ~100 or so. China's goal is much more doable in short run due to state mandated effort on education is strict. India's efforts are bit loose as they're based on democratic principles and the power to change are based on local people.

>>3094668
because this is bullshit

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>>3097209
Because the Indians you meet are the ones smart enough to get plucked by the First World to be used as Scientists/Doctors/whatever else, instead of incentivizing their own populace.