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How did haplogroup E enter Europe? If it's connected to

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How did haplogroup E enter Europe? If it's connected to agriculture as many seem to believe, why isn't it found at the G-dominant Neolithic sites? Why does it peak in Kosovo rather than Greece or Albania? Why is the only prehistoric E sample from Spain, and that E-V13 (Balkan) rather than the North African E-M81?
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>>3053098
Europeans are the true chosen people of God. The Children of Israel.
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>>3053098

Kosovo being especially rich in yDNA haplogroup E could just be a founder effect from the particular Albanian population cohort that settled the region under the Ottomans.
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>>3053153

>settled the region under the Ottomans

Plz stop.
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>>3053153
But who was the ancestral group to Albanian, Montenegrin, and Greek E?
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>>3053098
EV13 entered europe at the latest the early bronze age.

Probably just human migration from anatolia.
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>>3053494

Local farmers.

See https://www.yfull.com/tree/E/

E-V13 has no meaningful relatives outside a single Latvian and that relation goes back to 5600 BC, consistent with the Neolithic.

The idea that E-V13 came from outside Europe is science fiction since nothing ancestrally related to it exists outside Europe that is younger than the Neolithic.

It just wasn't common anywhere before the Kosovo inbreeding effect. A family turned into a thousand villages.
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>K*rds are more Greek than Turks
lol
also
>posting Eupedia maps in 2017
underage OP please fuck off to where you came from.
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>>3054103
>Local farmers.

But it's not found at neolithic agriculture sites, only G and J are
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>>3054611

E-V13 is found but rarely like the Spanish 5000BC and a single individual from the recent Hungary Neolithic paper. Maybe it was more frequent in some unsampled region but it doesn't really matter. Inbreeding can blow up any haplogroup with enough luck.
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>>3053098
The ALBANIAN EMPIRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGnMK3l9_OA
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Dienekes sez it was Bronze Age Greek expansion

I am a Greek
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>>3054652
Wait a minute who claims to be Pelasgians. Isn`t it now a universally accapted fact that we are Illyrians and that Serbia is Kosovo.
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>>3054695

Dienekes doesn't even update his shitblog anymore because he was proven wrong about everything
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>>3054705
This, Dienekes a shit.
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>>3054695
Dienekes says the Greeks invented fire
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I'm not saying it was Kangz, but it was Kangz
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>>3054705
But he's right, it does correspond to Greek colonization (except for Britain which can be explained by Romans)

The real question is how many of them lived in Europe before Indo-Europeans arrived, like how we keep finding dudes with hap C
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>higher in Central Greece than in North or South

What did genes mean by this?
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>>3057318
that haplogroups are shit.
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>>3057331
At last I truly see, all civilization we owe to Azeris
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>>3057318
CRETAN ARCHERS
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>>3057343
Yes and obviously those green parts of other countries are all products of Azeris.
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>In fact, it has been calculated that E-V13 emerged from E-M78 some 7,800 years ago, when Neolithic farmers were advancing into the Balkans and the Danubian basin. Furthermore, all the modern members of E-V13 descend from a common ancestor who lived approximately 5,500 years ago, and all of them also descend from a later common ancestor who carried the CTS5856 mutation. That ancestor would have lived about 4,100 years ago, during the Bronze Age. Almost immediately afterwards, CTS5856 split into six subclades, then branched off into even more subclades in the space of a few generations. In just a few centuries, that very minor E-V13 lineage had started an expansion process that would turn it into one of Europe's most widespread paternal lineages and reach far beyond the borders of Europe itself, also spreading to the eastern edge of the Mediterranean, the Caucasus, Kurdistan, Iran, and even Siberia.

>This data suggests that the fate of E-V13 was linked to the elite dominance of Bronze Age society. The geographic distribution of the six main branches show that E-V13 quickly spread to all parts of Europe, but was especially common in Central Europe. The only Bronze Age migration that could account for such a fast and far-reaching dispersal is that of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. At present the most consistent explanation is that E-V13 developed from E-M78 in Central or Eastern Europe during the Neolithic period, and was assimilated by the R1a and R1b Proto-Indo-Europeans around the time that they were leaving the Pontic Steppe to invade the rest of Europe.
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