What would modern music sound like if Germany had won the second

>>3034629
>no rap, metal, punk, hiphop and other retarded negroid genres
Frankly that would be heaven.

>>3034629
It would be all orchestral type stuff.

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>>3034629
While I do believe >>3034643 to be true, I still think that, because of human nature, subjects of the Nazi regime (worldwide or not) would still be on the never ending quest for the next new sound. Orchestral music would probably get heavier and we would most likely still see a rock movement but with long instrumental pieces.

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Firstly, jazz was never completely erased during ww2. Nazi's preferred to use the method of persuasion, rather than straight out banning. Jazz remained in existence, and was even pretty popular in some instances.
As for the question of what music would be like if the Nazi's had won the war, it is mostly unknowable, but I believe that rock music would definitely still exist in some form for numerous reasons.
As for electronic music, this could be hard to say. It is a fact that countries like Germany, Italy, and France greatly contributed to electronic music after shortly after WW2, but we have to think about how the Nazi's would have viewed it. The futurism art movement (which was started by Italian fascists) received some criticisms from some Germans for being degenerate and not traditional enough, while others thought it was forward-thinking and ambitious. I would place it in the same boat as this.
While we're on the subject, communists in Russia and China did a far more effective job at banning music. Especially China.

>>3034629
Honestly, nazis were turboplebs

>>3034633
This

>>3034852
That's right anon, professor Schekelbaum told me that jazz is a high class patrician music and only plebs listen to Mozart and Beethoven.

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>>3034852
They certainly weren't when it came to classical music. Germany is well known for having many of the greatest and most important composers and conductors of all time. Keep in mind that there were in fact still people alive from the Romantic period during the 30's and 40's

>>3034629
Define won
Do they conquer America or what

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>>3034875
>It's good because it's old!
>I am le redpilled!
Marinetti is spinning in his fucking grave

>>3034852
This.

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>>3034875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-pVz2LTakM

Truly something for an underdeveloped mind.

>>3034909
Not that guy and neither am I defending the Nazis but you're a fucking retard if you think people only like Mozart because his music is old.

>>3034893
Most cpnductors did not like the Nazis. Furtwangler was furious at Hitler for how many composers and conductors fled into exile because of the Nazis. Strauss was on their bad side too.

>>3034920
Oh course. I like Mozart. He's one of if not the best example of culture from his time. That doesn't excuse turbo autist like the Nazis that insist that new genres cannot be good, not on artistic merit, but because they are new

>>3034875
Hehe

Jazz music is pretty diverse nowadays. Just look for jazz fussion and avoid free jazz until you understand its roots generally.

Jazz audience are mostly people with experience with other genres such as pop, rock, classical music, etc. Lots of people have interiorized the chords and generic scales-armonic sounds, so it's kind of hard to look for new original armonic sets of progressions.

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>>3034629
No rap, rock, metal, or any music deemed degenerate and offensive, I would miss Jazz though
The high class music would still be largely orchestral, the average, everyday 'pop' music would probably be based on folk music, or piano and violin based melodic music, basically a very European form of /comfy/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HTcVovJxFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPphy89lvao

European medieval music is unironically better than any of the pop shit produced in the 20th century.

>>3034955
Gay and boring

>>3034955
Maricón.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnE7gckfr58

Would music lead to the decay of a Nazi empire?

>>3035044

this feels like all those generic female vocalists and acoustic guitar covers of nirvana

>>3034633
t. can't have fun

>>3034955
Yet another reason to burn down churches.

>not wanting musical variety
>larping as a Nazi
>using classical music to make-believe like you have class

This thread is full of wehrboos pretending they're are anything other than fedora turboautists. Why don't you broaden your musical horizons and listen to a lot of stuff you unforgivable plebs.

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>>3035327

>>3034629
it would sound like kraftwerk or rammstein

>>3035343
wow, this literal propaganda that makes no attempt at giving the whole picture sure convinced me

>>3034629
Jazz wasn't banned in Germany, if I remember correctly this piece of propaganda was set up by some german governor/mayor who hated jazz himself, but it doesn't reflect the opinion of nazis as a whole.

>>3035411
Nazis radio was mixing jazz with antisemite speech.
it is shown that a humble melody will convince you to do the worst crimes

I don't see how jazz doesn't still exist in that case. Lots of it is heavily related to the big band stuff which is just more lounge-like orchestral stuff.

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>>3035392
>On a yellow-orange background, the large painting (8 feet high and 6 feet wide) depicts a black woman wearing a blue robe, a traditional attribute of the Virgin Mary. The work employs mixed media, including oil paint, glitter, and polyester resin, and also elephant dung, map pins and collaged pornographic images. The central Black Madonna is surrounded by many collaged images that resemble butterflies at first sight, but on closer inspection are photographs of female genitalia; an ironic reference to the putti that appear in traditional religious art. A lump of dried, varnished elephant dung forms one bared breast, and the painting is displayed leaning against the gallery wall, supported by two other lumps of elephant dung, decorated with coloured pins: the pins on the left are arranged to spell out "Virgin" and the one on the right "Mary".

Such beauty, such grace. A great homage to her heritage, her parents must be so proud of her.

>>3035343
Wait, so what is your solution? Ban any art that is found detrimental to the people?

Really speaks to the emotional and mental weakness of the Nordic people in your image if they're that easily converted to degeneracy by art.

Electro-wagner

We would all be super evolved space conquestidors and music would be irrelevant.

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>>3036142
>music would be irrelevant.

>>3035343
>Nordic man
>shows roman and greeks statues
Wait what, didn't you fuckers help with the destruction of rome ?

>>3034933
It has nothing to do with being old or new. Jazz is shit because it's literally nigger music.

>>3034633
Hope you really like classical.

>n general, I don't believe it's accurate to say that the Nazis hated modern aesthetics in all its forms. In fact they embraced architectural and cinematic forms which were quite progressive for their time.

Not true, anything that was innovative or related to the expressionist movement was banned, even though several of the authors and artists originally supported the far right in Germany only to be backstabbed later for not being neoclassical

>>3036349
Yeah, Stravinsky comes to mind.

>>3034831
>we would most likely still see a rock movement but with long instrumental pieces
A world where progressive rock is the only rock? Now there's an argument for "the good guys lost" that I can get behind.

>>3036460
Why does everybody hate prog rock?

>>3036476
it is bloated and self-indulgent

>>3036478
Don't act like electric cello solos wouldn't be rad.

>>3036486
Jew?

>>3034852
>>3034629
Richard Wagner on repeat.

Someone have that screencap from /mu/ explaining how pleb the nazis were when it comes to music?

>>3036511
Nah, I just have yet to see an electric cello(or other classical string instruments for that matter).

>>3035897
>Really speaks to the emotional and mental weakness of the Nordic people in your image if they're that easily converted to degeneracy by art.
>HAHA you think X is bad for people? You must be weak!

Everytime with you degenerates. Be it drugs, pornography, music, movies, or art, you ALWAYS try to imply your opponent is some how weak for not appreciating filth.

>>3034629
most music would be darker, as they changed the tone we tune our instruments to, A used to be at 432 Hz, and they shifted it to 440 Hz

>>3036573
What does that sound like?

>>3036581
Lower pitched.

>>3036587
Does it sound cool?

>>3036593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM

>>3036600
>I like both
What does this mean?

>>3036516
It's from /his/. Just search in the archive with the keyword 'NSDAP' and 'music'.

>>3036551
There's nothing wrong with not appreciating it. There is something wrong with wanting the state to ban it because you don't like it.

>>3036615
one ear is jewish, the other aryan

music in general is pretty degenerate, people have ear phones on their head constantly are always the worst kind of people without exception, constantly having a need to be stimulated by music is a sign of low iq

>>3036288
So it's shit because of reasons that have nothing to do with music? Wehracucks are cringier than their idols

>>3036288
Do you literally spend you entire life ensuring that everything you consume has literally no connection to black people?

You're literally the white version of those people who complain about literature being full of dead white dudes. Congratulations on being that incredibly petty and childish.

>>3037920
Well, that's just like, your opinion man.

>>3037982
So you want the state to tell you what things you are allowed to look at and what things you aren't allowed to?

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>no jazz
>no blues
>no rock
>no metal
>no hip hop
>no any type of good modern music at all

hitler was literally the "music defener" of his time. a cringey, "born in le wrong generation XD" edgelord. the type of kid who would be wearing a fedora, oversized jeans, sneakers, and listening to the beatles over and over on his ipod in middle school while autistically lashing out on people that make fun of his sanctimonious, "better than you" attitude while simultaneously being a retarded socially inept sperg.

enjoy listening to the same 4 wagner pieces on repeat, stormfags.

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>>3036516

>>3038009
Which types? If you're referring to the type that takes advantage of young children or those who don't want to be part of it (child porn and legitimate rape porn) then you're right.

However, too often I hear people calling for the banning of stuff like Piss Christ or what >>3035445 posted.

>>3038014
>beatles
Joe Cocker's cover of With a little help from my friends is beautiful.

>>3036478
>Bloated
Yeah
>Self-indulgent
So?

>>3034633
>punk
Rock hasn't been black since Elvis

>metal
>What's NSBM?

>>3037975
>ensuring that everything you consume has literally no connection to black people
Besides music that's not really hard to do.

>>3037959
>Wehracucks
>using reddit lingo

>>3038045
>what's NSBM
Subhuman LARPers playing nigger music while screeching about how much they hate niggers?

>>3036288
And anime is made by a bunch of buck toothed, greased hair, slanty eyed sons of bitches, yet here you are in 4chan

>>3039515
I don't like anime.

>>3039515
The Japanese are honorary Aryans

>>3038102
Only a few niggers are able to make good jazz. If you knew about it, you would notice it.

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>>3039520
And yet you're on 4chan

>>3039536
>These non whites are okay because daddy Adolf said so!

>>3035445
As a (((((((((((((((((ju))))))))))))) I'd be hard pressed to find more than 0.1% of us who like or make this kind of stuff. Get fucked wehraboo.

>>3039550
So what? I don't have to like it.

>>3036551
>Everything I don't like is filth

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>>3034955
You realize that most top tier Nazis were Atheists, Pagans, and Spiritualists, and that while Hitler outwardly kept good relations to the Deutsche Christen he actually hated the church to the core and had a plan in place to destroy it after the Endsieg, and that Himmler planned to replace it with a "cult of the Teutons" that would have had pagan SS priests?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany#Nazi_views_on_Catholicism

If you think Christianity would have survived the Nazis winning the war, you are a massive retard.

>>3034629

>what would music sound like?

100x better

>haha fucking turboplebs, they can't understand the deep artistic significance of Gucci Mayne and other non white music artists, lol I'm so glad i listen to diverse music I hate being white I'm so tolerant and cultured

>>3039764
Do you really think people give a shit about the ethnicity of artists over the actual music they create?

>>3036476
If I want to listen to someone masturbating I can open up pornhub

>>3038019
This is why Italian Fascism will always be better than poor dumb Nazi scum
Niggas had noise musicians in their ranks

>>3039988
he's projecting

>>3039550
So liking chan-style websites despite the fact that are originally Japanese is fine, but liking jazz because it's originally black isn't?

>>3038014
>good
>modern music

>>3037997
The state already does man.

>>3039988
>Do you really think people give a shit about the ethnicity of artists over the actual music they create?
Of course they do.
If they didn't hip-hop would not be dominated by African Americans. "Authenticity" is a huge component of the genre and most people aren't able to suspend their disbelief and believe Joe White Rapper is a respected figure in the African American criminal underworld.

>>3040179
Not really, so long as it's not child pornography other work that deeply impacts the subject of the work I can look at anything.

Do you have any good evidence to back that up?

>>3034909
Like anybody likes any jazz that isn't decades older than themselves.

>>3040193
Except that one of the biggest selling rap artists of all time is a white dude. Eminem's whiteness never slowed him down from becoming one of the most respected rappers of all time. Really, the biggest reason rap is dominated by black people is because rap tends to be urban and focus on the issues of poverty and racism. This makes the underlying themes in rap more receptive to the poor black community.

>>3040055
That's the beauty of fascism. Every nation is to have it's own version that suits it's peoples and their temperaments. Diversity.

>>3034629
It would be cold and soulless, just like Germans.

>>3040229
That's the beauty of fascism. Every nation is to have it's own version that suits the state and its temperaments. Diversity.

fixed that for you.

>>3040223
Also, to further back up my point I'd like to include the following from wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem#Legacy

A number of artists have cited Eminem as an influence, including The Weeknd,[270] Crooked I, Tech N9ne, Logic, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, T.I., B.o.B, Jhené Aiko, 50 Cent,[271] Usher,[272] Earl Sweatshirt, Ab-Soul, Freddie Gibbs, Kendrick Lamar,[273] Ed Sheeran,[274][275] Lana Del Rey,[276] Big Sean,[277] J. Cole,[278] Skylar Grey,[279] Bubba Sparxxx,[280] Asher Roth,[281] Machine Gun Kelly,[282] Yelawolf,[283] Hopsin,[284] Tyler, The Creator,[285] Hollywood Undead,[286] Kiiara,[287] Chris Webby,[288] Chance the Rapper[289] Stalley, Royce da 5'9", Joe Budden, Tony Yayo, and The Game.[290]

Rappers David Banner,[291] Wiz Khalifa,[292] Talib Kweli,[293] Kool G. Rap,[294] Redman,[295] Kurupt, Dr. Dre, N.O.R.E., Rakim, Busta Rhymes and Jay Z have each called Eminem one of the greatest rappers of all time.[296]

>>3040249
not an argument.

>>3040260
What are you talking about?

>"Authenticity" is a huge component of the genre and most people aren't able to suspend their disbelief and believe Joe White Rapper is a respected figure in the African American criminal underworld.

You implied that a white rapper would never be seen as a respected part of rap (which is what I assume you meant by African American Criminal Underground). Surely a list of rappers who consider Eminem an influence on their music and who consider Eminem on of the greatest rappers of all time is a valid counter argument.

>>3040272
>valid counter argument.
no, it's not.

>>3040260
Kinda like you've never seen a white person before.

>>3040281
How so? What would you consider valid evidence?

It sounds to me like you're simply moving goalposts.

>>3040290
No self-respecting white person would ever sing the songs of Niggers or subhumans

>>3040294
I finally see now.
Enlighten me more in the more redpilled board
>>>/pol/

>>3040272
>Surely a list of rappers who consider Eminem an influence on their music and who consider Eminem on of the greatest rappers of all time is a valid counter argument.
What is it with your kind and citing statistical anomalies as if they're a trends?
Is the fact that there were black jazz musicians in the early 20th century who achieved mainstream prominence, or that white jazz musicians cite them as an influence somehow an argument against the statement that race played a huge part in the mainstream success of musicians during the time period?

>>3040294
Can you at least tell me when you're trolling me? I actually put some thought into what I posted.

>>3040290
The person you are responding to is not the person you responded to.

>>3040312
Because jazz, much like rap, has heavy ties to the cultural roots of African Americans. It makes sense that a lot of the dominant jazz performers would be African American.

>>3040382
but my point is at the time most of the dominant jazz performers were WHITE, because there was a bias against black artists. Imagine a world where the majority of rappers who recieved mainstream radio play were white and only a handful of black rappers ever made it big, that's what jazz was like the in the early twentieth century.

Which is why I say that pointing out Eminem as evidence that there isn't an, at a minimum, implicit bias in favor of preferring black rappers is flawed.

>has heavy ties to the cultural roots of African Americans
It's not the 80s anymore, rap is mainstream. There is no reason whatsoever for the airwaves to be dominated by African American rap artists when people of every race in America emulate and imitate hip hop culture. Once again it comes down to a sense of authenticity, if record producers are not able to create a plausible "urban", and by "urban" I mean black hood-rat persona around an artist, they will not make it big.

Even if Germany "won" the war (USSR collapses, some kind of white peace signed with the British, USA stays neutral), the US is still the economic and cultural center of the world. Rock and pop music still develops and becomes part of the underground resistance culture in occupied Europe.

>>3037939
not liking music is actually more indicative of mental problems that liking music a lot

>>3040193
>If they didn't hip-hop would not be dominated by African Americans.
Here's a tip: rap and hip hop aren't just for Black Americans anymore. Maybe it was in its earlier days, but I've heard both black and nonblack rappers from the UK, Canada (disregarding Drake,) Australia, France, and then there's that whole Korean hip hop thing. That's also not mentioning the role that latinos have played in hip hop over the years. What you neglect to consider is that popular American rappers don't take up a fraction of artists involved with the genre.

>>3034629
>>3034843
Electronic music, yes. Electronic dance music from disco to house to techno, drum and bass, etc? Hell no.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_musical_genres_of_the_African_diaspora

>>3038014
You forgot house and techno. Sure, house and techno were influenced by European music, but so was hip hop in the 80s during the electro/b-boy craze. Techno is literally from Detroit, which is why Detroit techno is a thing. Look up the Belleville Three.

>>3038045
>Rock hasn't been black since Elvis

Inherently false. Rock was still a genre mostly black people listened to until the Beatles, and even then black people made up a huge chunk of rock fans until funk came around. Even in the 70s before disco was created (not popularized, created), rock music was still popular among black people, who mixed psychedelic rock with soul, creating some of the most amazing music of the 70s: Psychedelic soul. And that's not even including jazz fusion, like Herbie Hancock, or proto-punk and proto-hardcore punk bands like Death and Bad Brains.

>>3034633
if you dont like it, you could just not listen to it. Instead of forcing your autism on the rest of us.

But something has survived and it´s called VOLKSMUSIK ...

https://youtu.be/QBgZNAjEwCs

>>3040193
>who is filthy frank

>>3034629
Why do you fags think Nazi Germany would have conquered ALL the world?

Their endgame was invading all Europe and the Middle East and dividing it with Italy. Then Japan would have all the Pacific and probably some mainland USA territories like Alaska.

Since Europe would have been governed by nazi puppets then I'm sure all the modern music would come from America, and I mean the continent.

obviously that would dipend on the strength and size of the Reich, at its best it would have impeached the decay of all arts that America created. Music would've probably without all of those lewds and sexual messages and It would still be art by definition (art=beauty+emotions).

>>3041543
>cuckistani fags

>>3040055
Italian fascism was dumb as fuck

>>3035343
>muh nazi safe space

>>3041728
when the normies Will take over everything you'll be glad you'll have a place to go, a place to speak in freedom

>>3040193
>He doesn't listen to Lil' Dicky

>>3040519
So what's your excuse for why non-black rappers from Korea, Australia, Canada, etc. don't make it but in America?

You're only reinforcing my point.

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Argentinian tango used to be very popular in Europe, also white lol

>>3034831
do it again bomber harris

>>3034831
you had your brain installed upside down if you think rock music had any origins inside classical music

your precious rock and metal wouldn't exist without """negroids""" and the music they brought with them directly from Africa.

>>3034893
20th century classical is trash

the sound of modernism in free fall

>>3042108
>nd the music they brought with them directly from Africa.
LMAO

>>3042083
you mean andalusian (moorish/blackanegro)

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>>3039536
>this is what naziboos actually believe

All music would consist of fat fucks in lederhosen shouting in their beer hall and slopping beer everywhere. WW2 nazi music is the worst.

>>3040481
>reasonable response proposing a sound and valid argument has no replies
never change /his/

>>3036288
Let me guess, you came to 4chan around 2012? Because that was the time when retards like you came, who didn't understand satire and took the nazi meme literally

>>3040553
Exactly. Middle class black kids + Euro "musique concrete" electronic experiments = modern dance music

>>3042137
>t-the nazi thing is just a meme guys! it's all a big joke guys!
oldest meme in the book

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>>3042127
Well tango is played with a german instrument (bandoneon). It certainly appealed to northern europeans.

>>3040310

He's not wrong though?

>>3042156
It's literally a meme, and a really old one at that. It's a prime example that some thoughts can spread virally despite being irrational.
As for 4chan, yes it started as a way of being edgy and keeping normies at bay, until low functioning people like you started spouting it left and right.
Saying jazz sucks because it was invented by black people is such a stupid statement I'll just let it stand as it is.

>>3042057
I'm having trouble figuring out what you even mean by that. Rappers that hit it mainstream aren't the only popular ones with a following. And even so, there are American white rappers that have enjoyed mainstream success other than Eminem, like G-Eazy, Mac Miller, Post Malone, Macklemore and Ryan Lewis, Machine Gun Kelly, Action Bronson, Yelawolf, etc.. Just off the top of my head. Actually, forgive me if the last 2 aren't exactly mainstream. It's been a long time since I've listened to the radio.

There are even more examples of influential and well-respected white rappers like RA the Rugged Man, Vinnie Paz, Ill Bill, Apathy, Celph Titled, and so on in hip hop's vibrant underground scene, and Bones is very popular with new school listeners.

I'm not familiar with the extent of commercial success of non-black rappers in other countries but I'm pretty sure Korean hip hop is popular in its own country while also making some waves with some American audiences.

You have a less than normie-tier understanding of rap music and it shows.

>>3042108
metal actually has a lot of classical influence. If you replace the guitars with violins it sounds like a string quartet

>>3042133
>Sloshing beer around in lederhosen
That unironically sounds like a blast.

>>3042270
cuck

>>3042267
lmao
GTFO newfag the Nazism was never ironic.

>>3042137
2007. I was a NS long before 4chan even existed.

>>3042286
>calls me a cuck for listening to arguably one of the most masculinity-charged genres of music.

Lel.

>>3042270
>I'm having trouble figuring out what you even mean by that.
Then you're an idiot. Which is unsurprising, as you're honestly trying to pretend that race is irrelevant in a sub-culture that revolves entirely around emulating the customs and practices of a race.

>>3042307
That's a perfectly rational accusation as you enjoy listening to men rapping about how easy it is for them to fuck your girl and how superior they are to you not only physically but financially as well.

>>3034633
>metal
I agree with you on the others but fuck off

>>3042314
Because it hasn't been important for gauging how well someone raps and the quality of their work for years. You're original argument had to with how """""""rare""""""" white rappers are in hip hop and how Black Americans are the only popular and widely respected hip hop arists, clearly showing that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Hip hop is international. It has been for almost as long as it's been around.

>>3042322
2bh I place myself in those shoes when I listen to rap. If you start feeling disrespected when you hear lines like that you're listening to it wrong.

>>3042267
i like jazz and i'm not a naziboo i'm just saying the anti-semitism has always been sincere on 4chan. the sincerity came before the irony.

4chan has always been a place for (((them))) to brainwash psychologically weak and naive people, whether that be stormfronters, foreign internet brigades or cybercriminals

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rap is like a high school power fantasy for idiots

the white equivalent is listening to anime OSTs and imagining that you are goku defending the earth from Freeza

>>3042369
> You're original argument had to with how """""""rare""""""" white rappers are in hip hop and how Black Americans are the only popular and widely respected hip hop arists, clearly showing that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

But they ARE rare, and bringing up underground literally who rappers doesn't counter this. Nor does the pointing out the existence of non-white rappers in other countries counter anything as they emulate the BLACK hip-hop culture of America.

Let's revisit my argument regarding jazz in the early 20th century, does the fact that there were black jazz musicians who were hugely influential to white jazz musicians undermine the historical fact that an artist's race was a huge factor in his success in the 1930s?

>>3042464
>the white equivalent is listening to anime OSTs and imagining that you are goku defending the earth from Freeza
Stop appropriating Asian culture

>>3042369
>2bh I place myself in those shoes when I listen to rap.
t. Cuck in denial

>>3042578
>bringing up underground literally who rappers doesn't counter this
Lmao. I posted a pretty strong list of white mainstream rappers popular in America before getting into the underground shit, and the underground rappers aren't "whos" either. Anybody with an interest in rap past current mainstream personas will recognize a lot of those names.
>G-Eazy, Mac Miller, Post Malone, Macklemore and Ryan Lewis, Machine Gun Kelly, Action Bronson, Yelawolf
Let's add Iggy Azalea, Riff Raff, and Rittz to that incomplete list of mainstream rappers for good measure. All examples that have popped up within the past few years and are still currently popular as well. You're so wrong and out of touch with reality concerning this and it hurts.

Oh, I also can't forget to mention the Beastie Boys and their influence in the early days of hip hop either.

>Let's revisit my argument regarding jazz in the early 20th century
I don't give a fuck about your critique on the origins of jazz, it's not what I addressed and you're simply moving goal posts. That being said, this will probably keep moving in circles as you reject and ignore every piece of information that you don't like, so fuck off already.

>>3042723
>Anybody with an interest in rap past current mainstream personas will recognize a lot of those names.
So in other words you acknowledge that mainstream rap is dominated by blacks, despite their being not only a minority in the United States, but a minority among the consumers of rap over all, and this supports your argument that race doesn't play a factor how exactly?

>you're simply moving goal posts.
How can I be "moving goal-posts" when I'm reiterating my original argument, you moron?

Stop listening to nigger noise it's clearly rotting your brain.

>>3040176
>i think all modern music is only the musical-industrial complex on mainstream radio

>>3042754
Okay you have to be legitimately retarded or trolling. There's no other way that would explain it. Here I'm going to say it again, and I'm going to make it really easy for you to understand this time.
The following is an INCOMPLETE list of WHITE rappers that are CURRENTLY POPULAR and MAINSTREAM in AMERICA.
>G-Eazy, Mac Miller, Post Malone, Macklemore and Ryan Lewis, Machine Gun Kelly, Action Bronson, Yelawolf, Iggy Azalea, Riff Raff, and Rittz
>How can I be "moving goal-posts"
Because it's not what I touched on and addressed, idiot.

>>3042807
>Waaaah why aren't you pretending my list of literal whos is a valid counter-argument?
If I turn on Hot 97 right now, and listened for 6 hours how often would I hear a track performed by one of the "mainstream" artists you gave as examples to disprove that rap is dominated by blacks?

>>3042845
>His first major-label album,These Things Happen, was released on June 23, 2014. The album peaked at number3 on the USBillboard200. His second studio album,When It's Dark Out, was released on December 4, 2015. It featured the single "Me, Myself & I", which reached the top 10 of the USBillboardHot 100.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-Eazy

>Azalea's debut studio album,The New Classic(2014), peaked among the top five of several charts worldwide and received generally mixed reviews. It topped theBillboardTop R&B/Hip-Hop Albumsmaking Azalea the first non-American female rapper to reach the summit of the chart.[2]The album was preceded by her debut single "Work", and generated the USBillboardHot 100chart-topping single "Fancy". Additionally, she was featured onAriana Grande's single "Problem", which peaked at number two while "Fancy" was number one; Azalea joinedThe Beatlesas the only acts to rank at numbers one and two simultaneously with their first two Hot 100 entries.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iggy_Azalea

>On July 19, 2015, Malone released a music video for "White Iverson", which has received over 330 million views since its release. After the initial hype of "White Iverson", Post released several other popular singles through his SoundCloud, including "Too Young", "What's Up" "Patient"and "Tear$", all of which experienced similar levels of popularity.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Malone

>In early 2010, Miller signed a record deal with Pittsburgh-based indie record labelRostrum Records. He subsequently began recording his debut studio albumBlue Slide Park, and released it on November 8, 2011. The album went on to debut at number one on the USBillboard200chart, making it the first independently distributed debut album to top the chart sinceTha Dogg Pound's 1995 album,Dogg Food.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Miller

>>3042845
>>3042911
>Macklemore and Lewis' single "Thrift Shop" reached number one on the USBillboardHot 100in 2013.[5]The single was soon dubbed the first song since 1994 to top the Hot 100 chart without the support of a major record label byBillboard, although Macklemore, in a slightly unusualrecording contract, pays a nominal percentage of sales to useWarner Bros. Records' radio promotion department to push his singles.[6][7]Their second single, "Can't Hold Us", also peaked at number one of the Hot 100 Chart, making Macklemore and Lewis the first duo in the chart's history to have their first two singles both reach the peak position. Macklemore and Lewis released their debut studio album,The Heist, on October 9, 2012, which charted at number 2 on the USBillboard200. The pair won fourGrammy Awardsat the2014 ceremony, includingBest New Artist,Best Rap Album(The Heist),Best Rap SongandBest Rap Performance("Thrift Shop").
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macklemore_%26_Ryan_Lewis


>His major label debut album,Lace Up, was released in October 2012 to positive response from critics. The record contained the singles "Wild Boy", "Invincible", "Stereo", and "Hold On (Shut Up)", and debuted at number four on the USBillboard 200chart; it was later confirmed to have sold more than 178,000 copies. In early 2015, he released the singles "Till I Die" and "A Little More" for his second studio album,General Admission, which released in October 2015, and also debuted at number four in the US.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Gun_Kelly_(rapper)

You are really, really fucking stupid and arrogant. I don't even have to listen to any of these fucking rappers to know they exist.

>>3042911
You didn't answer my question.
If I turn on Hot 97 right now, how often would I hear a "G-Easy" track played?

>>3034629
Jazz originates in scotland, it's just that americans butcher every cultural thing on earth.

>>3042941
You wouldn't have to sit and listen for long, because all of these rappers are insanely successful. White rappers are mainstream in America. Just fucking accept it holy shit.

>>3042807
>Action Bronson
>white
wew

>>3034629
>What would modern music sound like if Germany had won the second world war?
Better.

>>3042972
>a ginger with colored eyes isn't white
Wew.

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>>3042982
>this is considered white in America
All of my kek

>>3042960
>You wouldn't have listen long
That's funny because I'm currently scrolling through Hot 97's playlist and I don't see a single track from one of these apparently mainstream white rappers listed.

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>>3043022
Are you saying that if you saw this fat fuck on the street you wouldn't consider him white?

>>3043028
Sure, a single radio station is indicative of popular music as a whole. Meanwhile, I couldn't go a single day without hearing any of these fgts mentioned. I don't even listen to the radio nor do I listen to those artists. It's feels over reals for you, I guess.

>>3043135
I wouldn't even consider him human, much less white.

>>3043161
Because yurangutans are subhumans.

Incas were superior to yurangutans.

>>3043417
What

>>3042148
Don't forget a mixed crowd of gay and straight (mostly gay until around 1986) black people and Jamaicans who loved rave and hip hop music.

>>3043135
M8, what are you expecting? You're arguing with a dude who seriously gives a shit about the ethnicity of people who make music.

I imagine that music, much like almost everything else in his life serves as a facet for more obsession over race.

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>>3034633
>This rap genre is dirty, niggerish, and nonintellectual
>Literally characterized by a heavy emphasis on complex rhyme schemes and words rather than sounds and notes

Lmao hypocritical classicalfags need to die

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>>3034955
>everyday 'pop' music would probably be based on folk music, or piano and violin based melodic music
I'm suddenly okay with how events transpired

>>3044261
I can only imagine that anon suddenly crying about how he is being oppressed because his waiter was a black guy or something and saying he can't possibly be one because blacks don't have jobs.

>>3039565
Shutup (((fag))). Nobody cares

>>3044640
Of course nobody cares. I know what site I'm on.

>>3034875
>>3034893
Turbopleb apologists.

>Music and composers who did not fall into the RMK's definition of "good German music" were deprecated and then banned. The Institute proscribed various great composers of the past, including the Jewish-by-birth composers Mahler, Mendelssohn, and Schoenberg, and also Debussy, who had married a Jew. The music of politically dissident composers such as Alban Berg was also banned. And composers whose music had ever been considered sexually suggestive or savage, such as Hindemith, Stravinsky and the like, were denounced as "degenerate" and banned.

>>3034629
Better question, what if the Soviets won the Cold War and dominated culturally? I can't imagine bourgeois American pop would be accepted outside of the US Remnants.

>>3034941
Jazztwats don't understand music at all. They reduce music to masturbatory self-expression.
>>3034941
Listening to 'a lot of stuff' is not a mark of quality. You don't listen to good music.

>>3038019
Austria's the worst part of Germany though, they're pretty right on that.

>>3042757
It all essentially is. I've listened to more 'modern music' than you. Mind you, I have been out of it since maybe 2013.

>>3034629
Similar to soviet musical scene. Most musicians would have been forced to spread state propaganda.

>>3042464
>all anime OSTs are from bad shounen
The best parts of my favorite OST are pop and house tracks from fairly established (even international) musicians.

>>3044419
>complex
They aren't.

>>3042807
All of those people are low test submitters half of which are Jews the other half are so pussy they make female pop stars look masculine

>>3043417
t.british male

>>3045420
>anime intros with house music in them

Thank you mid 90s.

>>3034843
the commies were better at stamping out degeneracy than the nazi's in many cases it seems.

Even the "high level" degeneracy, as Mao basically banned most high culture and shit.

though he did allow Ode to Joy.

>>3045582
Most of the house are just inserts. The best track is a damn insert that spans nearly half of the final episode. The pop tracks are the OPs and EDs.

>>3045415
This is not really true, at least not for post-Stalin Soviet Union and its satellites. Western genres existed and they were more or less accepted by the government. But the songs were usually about everyday silly stuff - going out with your girlfriend, holidays, school and so on. Political songs criticizing the Communists were of course banned.

What was the nazi's opinion on folk music?
Were the musical traditions of germany still around or had they been long abandoned?

https://youtu.be/MErDNv1Qroo
Your move, Naziboos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2bvPzvFlP8

Would the Nazis enjoy the greatest German song of all time?

>>3045584
Nazis were more of focused on MUH RACE than actually maintaining a degeneracy-free society, so that'd be about right.

>>3045410

Tons of music you don't like would not exist because nazis would say it's "le nigger music"

>>3045421
Spoken like someone who's never listened to rap.

Aside from rhyming, I wonder if you'd be able to identify any of the literary devices present in this.
https://genius.com/Gza-duel-of-the-iron-mic-lyrics

>>3034629
Nazis didn't mind Negros. On the list of races they hated Negros were not present. So negroid music in itself was nothing bad for Nazis. They only claimed that Jews are using negroid music to degenerate society, but the music in itself is not evil. So probably they would have promoted something like "arian Jazz" similar to the soviet Union with their "soviet Jazz".

>>3034831
we'd probably have nothing but prog metal by this point

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>>3045421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPcR5RVXHMg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooOL4T-BAg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWveXdj6oZU

""Not complex"" lmfao classicalfags need to kill themselves

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>>3045584
>This is what Maoists actually believes

>>3045817
>didn't mind negros
Top lel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_Bastard

>>3042276
>metal has a lot of classical influence
lmao that's bullshit. metal's foundation is pretty much psychedelic rock + blues + punk. any classical influence it has is mostly limited to certain subgenres and the whole idea that "metal is modern classical" was pretty much invented by varg because he was really butthurt about niggers and then appropriated by fedora power metal/prog metal fans who wanted to feel superior to all the plebs who like britney spears

>>3047249
Has Varg ever not been asshurt by niggers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWO5Ai_a80M

>>3048187
He literally considers anything south of Norway niggerlandia

>>3046326
please tell me this is bait.

>>3042083
Wasn't tango invented by black people

>>3049555
Yes. Believe it or not, Argentina had black people in the past.

>>3045421
https://www.google.nl/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Aesop-rock-zero-dark-thirty-lyrics

>>3040229
>>3040055
Please don't confuse Futurism with Fascism, Marinetti was for the Republic, the minimum wage, the easy divorce and the universal suffrage, despite what the initial manifesto may imply, his kind of government would have probably not seen women as mere child makers.

Fascism was for the return of the Roman empire, in art too, but Marinetti said that the past, everything that came before had to be destroyed. He basically makes fun of the Winged Victory of Samothrace, because in terms of classic art that was the peak of dynamism, but it failed to portray that, instead living as something static unlike Boccioni's "Forme uniche nella continuità dello spazio".

>>3034875
I'm sure you know a lot about classical music, that's why you can only namedrop the most entry-level composers.

>>3034875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxadblDT6zI
This is just shit, innit?