>facism never took root in Britian Pretty sure it did and

>>3027542
Because they only had 50,000 members at their height and were in decline untill WW2 and Mosley's arrest destroyed any relevance they had.

>>3027569
most fringe political movements would kill for those kinds of numbers

>>3027571
Most movements also dont recieve large sums of money from Adolf Hitler http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1513465/Oswald-Mosley-was-a-financial-crook-bankrolled-by-Nazis.html

>>3027542
Real fascism didn't, reactionary anti Semitism did
And if it was more important to our history we'd remember it better
Also mosley was a reactionary himself, an upper class lord with an estate that flip flopped between conservative and labour FUCKING LABOUR as he pleased

>>3027577
>telegraph
Good choice anon, burn the guardian

>>3027579
>Real fascism didn't
Literally every fascist regime adopted anti-Semitism when it was geopolitcally opportune.

>>3027594
Antonio Salazar, the fascist leader of Portugal, was alright with Jews iirc.

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>>3027542
Would you let this man babysit your kids?

>>3027599
Salazar's repressed national syndicalist and drew his ideology from the catholic church. He was never fascist in the same way Franco abandoned falangism.

>>3027542
GB at the time was not such the basketcases that Italy, Germany or parts of Eastern Europe were. They were the victors in WW1 after all, and up until post-WW2 de-colonization was probably the apex of British Empire

>>3027594
When I say fascism I mean importing directly the Italian model and not changing it
This is coming from a monarchist who hates fascists and Nazis for what they did to this world not some skin head reactionary btw
>>3027599
How was he with their African colonies

>>3027577
Many movements receive money from ideological allies. The Spanish Republicans were largely funded and supported by foreigners. Is that a problem?

>>3027600
No, he'd turn them into ubermensch.

>>3027608
Portugal entered colonial wars with its African colonies under him in an attempt to keep when every other country had given up. Salazar was very critical of countries he considered "young" or "of no tradition" so he likely didn't think highly of African countries which tended be newly independent.

>>3027621
I never implied anything beyond the fact that Mosley had a large amount of help from Hitler.

>>3027635
Nothing inherently wrong with that.

this eternal anglo meme is going too far, enough with the anglophobia on this sub

>>3027658
Take the Habsburg-pill.

>Fascism is good guys!
>dress in all black and look like insane german scientists from movies

kek

>>3027542
Facism always have conflict with Captalism. Typical capitalist don't care about nation, fundamental ethnics of country, state interest, they think much more lower, only banal greediness for he-self and maybe his clan.
Private capital like cheap labor, and best source of it - is foreign migrants. For example for selling apples on streets don't need education

>>3027638
Most people aren't edgy neo-fascists like you, and would find something wrong with that.

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>>3027748
>literally dressed up like edgelords
>mfw current right wing movements are also dressed like edgelords

>>3027594
Italy didn't until later, when it started sucking up to Germany, before that they actually gave refuge to Jews.

Real British fascism is worshipping the Queens behind not some faggot marching around the streets.

>>3027600
>when your realize that the harry potter series is based on 1930s british facism up to including the physical apperance of the main character

>>3027542
Well, Britain wasn't by any means ripe for Fascist takeover.
They ruled over more land in the interwar period than ever before in it's history, wasn't hit too hard by the great depression, and already had authority-figure types to march around in pomp ceremonies about. The country didn't appear to the average man to be declining, so they didn't have that revanchism needes for fascism to root itself.

>>3027600

Whats his stando, /his/?

>>3027859
[Civilization]

Is that rachel maddow?

>>3027751
Hitler was a vegetarian and banned testing on animals.

>>3027899
Also Adolf leave off smoking. In this aspect he was better model that smoking Stalin and smoking and drinking alcohol as a camel Churchill

>>3027542

By the same standard, has Islam taken root in the UK because groups like Sharia 4 UK have had to be banned?

>>3027751
Strictly speaking people back then didn't think of the nazis as the monsters they were made out to be during and after WW2. Even today a rigid and proper analysis of the Hitlerian regime in the public is largely impossible on grounds of it being too recent.

Today you can talk of the benefits of Genghis Khan's Mongol Empire but back then people saw him as a genocidal tyrant. And that is not to say that Hitler was wholly good. He wasn't. There were positive and negative aspects to his rule and whether or not these aspects were positive or negative is different for different people.

So long story short. Hitler was probably not a nice guy but we can't be trusted with our judgment because we are still too morally invested to analyse him.

>>3027859
[ZA BURITANNIA]

>>3027542
>blackshirt faggots get their ass handed to them by 1930's antifa
these guys truly where weak bitches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street

>>3028152
>Commies punch cops
>Mosley just marches the other way

Mosley was a pussy, this is true, but the commies never beat him

>>3028152
>cops protecting bitch ass right wingers
Every fucking time

>>3027542
look like they're about to drop the hottest album of 1943

>>3028464
>Cops enforce the law, even when lefties don't like it
>This confuses and angers the leftie

>>3028483
Almost never see cops protecting any lefties when they protest or march, usually is to contain them

>>3028500
Probably because lefties always chimp out.

>>3028500
Because the right is generally more careful about adhering to the law.

Also
>Fascism
>Not centrist
>Mosley
>Not a leftist
Comintern go and stay gone

>>3028515
But when right wingers do it, it is no chimping out right? Police almost show up to agitate and contain a lefty gathering but protect a right wing march

>>3028523
Don't need to tell me what I already know senpai

>a leftist is the leader of a radical centrist party
Kek

>>3028500
Pretty much every time except when lefties attack cops. Problem is that they attack cops extremely often compared to right wing groups.

>>3027959
>benefits of Genghis Khan's Mongol Empire
No. There were no benefits. They literally destroyed Persia's Golden Age and made them regress until the Safavids ~500 years later.

>>3028543
never seen right wingers riot and vandalize private property in this day and age

British mentality would actually lend itself well to fascism. A fascist Britain would be a serious economic force to reckon with.

Conversely, USA has the perfect structure for soviet model socialism.

>what is UKIP

>>3030017
a failed party that gets less seats than the lefty jocks?

>>3030017

UKIP is just a conservative party dissent movement, they're not fascist by any means.

>>3030027
>conservative party
>not fascist

>>3028439
I am undefeated in all street fights, mma competitioners, boxing matches and armed conflicts. No one, not even militaries armed with modern air craft carriers has been able to beat me.

>>3030037

Conservative party isn't fascist you butthurt illiterate.

>>3030037
(You)

>>3030050
same here.

small world, eh?

>>3030050

Yeah, but what's your power level?

>>3027542
It was a fringe group that completely ridiculed all the time especially after they had to wimp out of marching on a Jewish neighborhood because they were afraid of getting beaten up.

>>3031902
It's so high, no scouter has been able to measure it. No one has been able to find words to even describe how much power I have.

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>>3027867
>>3027978

>>3027542
Brits (rightly) thought that funny clothes and funny marches were silly. No chance of Fascism ever taking over.

>>3027569

Don't the BUF hold a record of one the largest political meetings ever held in Britain?

>>3027579

Mosley wasn't anti-semitic. He just wasn't afraid to call his opponents out as Jews when they were taking anti-British standpoints.

>>3027959
>people back then didn't think of the nazis as the monsters they were made out to be during and after WW2.
In the late 1930s, Leadbelly wrote an anti-Hitler song. It talked about his cruelty to the Jews and how America needed to fight him. This was before anyone knew about concentration camps, or even before America entered the war effort. If a black folk singer who had spent most of his adult life in rural prisons and had no relationship with Germany saw Hitler as a bad enough figure to write a song about, that's a pretty good indication most viewed him negatively back then.

>>3027959

>Hitler was probably not a nice guy

People will think you're an idiot if you say shit like this in public.

>>3027959
>Benefits of being KHANNED
>Byzantine territory cannot be regained
>less tax on Silk Road
>gunpowder has already spread

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>>3027542
>Why is black shirts still so obscure in British media?

The western world had this big hardon for the fascists, but got embarrassed after they liberated the camps and it was impossible to pretend that the antisemitism was just political theater.

So now they just pretend that it was only this insignificant fringe movement.

>>3027542
To answer quickly, fascism took root in Germany with the poor. Thing is with Britain was that since the end of Asquith's liberal government after WW1, Labour have ALWAYS had the working class vote, always will. There may be accounts from the time of people saying they just looked fucking stupid too.

To summarise:
>they looked fucking dumb
>couldn't establish any worker votes, because labour and commies
>couldn't get many fat cats donors because tories

They did manage to get some funds off the Daily Mail though

>>3029978
Yeah because burning houses in east germany for refugees is not destroyment of property.. cmon I aint no communist nut but our neonazis have a teadition of burning stuff and shooting up restaurants (nsu)

>>3032868
Are you implying that police dont investigate arson or that they didnt investigate NSU? Because thats a complete lie. Stop playing the victim, police enforce law, if you break the law during protests theyll crack down on you

>>3032400
Now you understand why the holohoax was so important. Not only was it used to discredit german fascism but fascism around the world. WW2 was fundamentally a battle of three political ideologies with two teaming up against one in order to remove the competition before starting the cold war.

>>3032000
And what ethnicity was his producer I wonder

>>3032868
>worldwide trend that's been consistent for 100 years
vs
>literally one instance

>>3033294
>>3033344
Guys i am not talking about numbers or ignoring stuff from Hercules Uprising to G20 next weekend. The left is notorious(ly dumb). But to describe neo!nazis as peacefull citizens is literally fairytale-tier stupid. I am not quantifying or comparing but that comment describing them as white doves of peace is utter garbage. And yeah allthough they are maybe less right wing stuff its around 970 attacks on refugee homes in the past year alone. Heres the only english source i was bothered enough to dig up on my mobile in under a min:
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/16/german-far-right-extremists-teaming-up-with-gangs-in-america-and/amp/&ved=0ahUKEwjk1-qJ4u3UAhXHJlAKHbXlA7AQFggqMAQ&usg=AFQjCNE2egnrRoer0FhQ9oeoR2-18_8yIg

>>3027569
Literally less relevant than green parties in Europe or libertarianism in the US.