America: >Won their independence through guerrilla warfare

Woah WTF happend to Trump?

>>3017984
>le lost to farmers maymay
I'm not even American but this meme triggers me so fucking much. The NVA was a professional army with state of the art Eastern Block weaponry, not some faggots with a pitchfork freshly plucked from a rice field.

>>3017984
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War

>>3017987
Not to mention funded by China and the Soviet Union

>>3017986
Assassinated, check the news
>>3017987
They were forcefully conscripted farmers with weapons supplied from China.

>>3017987
after Tet things were looking really good for the Americans anyway. it's just understandably difficult to convince people to keep such a war going

>>3017984
>scared to fight like real men
t. assmad stagnant duck

>>3017984
>>Won their independence through guerrilla warfare because they were to scared to fight like real men
Kek, why would you use conventional war dare when your opponent is stronger. Same reason the Vietcong used guerrilla warfare.

>>3017984
>most of the fighting is in conventional battles between large armies
>Loyalist Americans+Canucks+Brits>1810s US
>Spanish American War
>Gulf War
>"farmers" with top of the line military equipment courtesy of China and the Soviets, and the Chinese army in one.
>1941 "late in the war", not to mention lend lease
Literally entirety incorrect 1/10

>>3017984
>couldn't invade cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish%E2%80%93American_War#Caribbean_Theater

>>3017999
>Assassinated, check the news
Don't get my hopes up.

>>3018042
Which is why Vietcong lost completely and NVA won?

>>3017999
Like the forcefully conscripted American farmers.

>>3018403
The NVA also got completely reamed out in almost every engagement they had with the US Army. Strolling into the South two years after the US had pulled out isn't winning a victory against their Army.

>>3017984
You forgot to mention all of our fun on this side of the globe. We also invaded Cuba decades earlier than the Bay of Pigs.

Also, we didn't join the Western Front in WWII until late because we were occupied with Japan for a few years. There was negligible public support because Japan did something that quite literally hit closer to home compared to the minor Uboat vs US Navy scuffles in which we partook in the Atlantic.

>>3018408
Well it wasn't a military victory against the USA, but it was a military victory against ARVN who were on the same team. So it counts. But Vietcong did literal NOTHING, I mean they are a boogeyman entirely overbloated by Hollywood.

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>>3018001
This. Vietnam was the ultimate case study on "winning the battle but losing the war", tactically speaking the US was unmatched and BTFO the NVA and VC in almost every engagement they found themselves in but they failed to accomplish any real strategic objectives which is really all that matter at the end of the day.

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>>3018689
>Well it wasn't a military victory against the USA, but it was a military victory against ARVN who were on the same team. So it counts.
>SO IT COUNTS

>Korean farmers
No, it was the fucking chinese, Korea was taken but those fucking commies had to get involved for no good reason, and then in 2010 they cry about Korea and their nukes, should have thought of that before you retards.

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>>3017987
>WE ONLY FOUGHT THE NVA

>>3017984
>>Couldn't even invade Iraq successfully

what are you talking about? It took america a month to invade Iraq.

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>>3020105
How's that going again?

>>3020120
actually pretty well considering Mosul is under coalition control. Yeah I understand your trying to be edgy but they have lost nearly all they land they've held in the past two years. However since this is a religious motivated ideology we could never claim full victory as long as tenants of it live on in Muslims, in order to do so we would have to genocide all the muslims, and we both know thats not going to happen.

>>3020309
My point is that American decisions like disbanding the Iraqi army gave them a recruiting pool unmatched by most terrorist organizations, but sure it's just "being edgy"

>>3020093
the Vietcong were directly funded by the NVA and used children and women to further their goals instead of fighting like real men

>>3020331
Irrelevant, so did the Filipinos and Moros and American won both those

>>3020091
>for no good reason
the US wanted military bases on China's border for no good reason

>>3020091
> Korea was taken but those fucking commies had to get involved for no good reason
t. Douglas "lol it'll be fine, the Yalu is a meme" MacArthur

>>3020331
>women and children during the American Revolution didn't fight the British anyway they could