How is it that so many of Nietzsche's ideas have permeated the collective consciousness that its as if they are self-evident? Like if you disagree with the banal aphorism of what doesn't kill you makes you stronger then you are treated like an ideological leper. Its absurd that Nietzsche's ideas are somehow not subject to scrutiny.
Don't make these kind of posts in /his/. All you will get is a single pol retard succesfully derailing the thread. Not one single person here is well read, go to /lit/ if you actually wan't to discuss this.
>>3017285
i would have to argue that people do challange neitzsches ideas
neitzsche gets things wrong like anyone who tries to fit history into their world view (cough Marx). history/humanity is not that simple
However what makes neiztsche so popular is his edge. His philosophy seems natural but I feel that he was one of the few to have the balls and call out people for being cucks.
>>3017285
No one belives that saying wholly though. People don't break their own bones to become ubermensh. It's a pop culture nonsense phrase taken out of its original context and watered down for the masses. Any well-read person would recognize that it is to some extent hyperbole.
>>3017285
Atheists seem to hold a basically Christian morality: they believe in the equality of humanity, have moral impulses to help groups they consider victims (and who are made virtuous by that victimhood) and sometimes even that nation-states are entirely artificial compared to the universal brotherhood of man. Arguably, too, the modern science that they venerate required the Christian perspective of a soul detached from the world in order to develop
>>3017691
All those things are just products of slave morality, no surprise they remain despite changing the name.
>>3017285
I don't know what you mean. There's no shortage of people out there willing to criticize Nietzsche.
My knowledge is nietzsche is far from perfect, but in terms of what is morally acceptable and mainstream, he is not popular or prominent. I mean, most people today have a very egalitarian worldview. On the other hand, among the right, nietzsche is sort of popular. I would not say that the average person is aware of nietzsche on any level though.
>>3017285
The average person doesn't know shit about Nietzsche, and simply give a literal meaning to the quotes that have taken out of context.
>>3017285
You're just being intellectually dishonest if you think "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is not metaphorical.
>>3017691
>Christian morality.
Oh boi.
>>3017973
"The worst readers are those who behave like plundering troops: they take away a few things they can use, dirty and confound the remainder, and revile the whole."
-Nietzsche
>>3017285
Have they? Never met anyone IRL who cares about Nietzsche. Hardly anyone knows about him beyond the "God is dead" thing.
>>3017302
>go to /lit/
>>3018281
>well read
>wan't