http://www.nationalreview.com/artic le/439040/male-physical-

No.

>>3015151
>Are effeminate men a sign of history in decline?

Are there people who unironically believe in this?

>>3015202
Well, it's a sign of complacency, or jadedness. Men didn't have to work anymore because the slaves did all the work, so they got dull and eventually replaced by more able folks.

>>3015212
Citation needed

>>3015151
Examples?

>to successfully get a girl you need to constantly work out
>society is full of effeminate men

pick one

>>3015151
>We see them from time to time when great cultures were heading towards their own respective destruction
Can you provide one example?

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>>3015230
The old-fashioned twink nobles lost against hardy nobles like Prussian aristocrats. The noble family line used to be full of badasses during the middle ages.

>>3015252
This is too vague. What war, what century, who lost against whom and why.

>>3015261
It's a general trend.

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>>3015151
/numales from pol, fit and out general/

hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahah

>>3015270
A general trend is based on many individual cases. Provide us with some.

>>3015287
Contemporary Europe.

>>3015270
So you can't show a single example.

>people denying the decline of male strength

Look up the recent decline in grip strength and testosterone levels. Modern men are objectively weaker than they were 100 years ago. Deal with it.

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You're in the club and this guy slaps your gfs ass. What do you do?

>>3015202
How can you unironically not believe in that? Do you think effete faggots is what keeps a civilization chugging on?

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>>3015151
Effeminate men help build civilization, civilization collapses when it was banned or outlawed (i.e. Christianity in Rome)

>>3015346
>being someone's fucktoy is building civilization

>>3015342
make fun of his small penor

>>3015345
the parts of civilization that aren't "HURR ME HIT THINGS"

>>3015381
There isn't a single civilization that wasn't built on violence, plus testosterone is correlated with cognitive abilites, creativity, strong will and endurance, shit like that. A bunch of limp wristed, physically weak, semi-tranny hedonist bitches who can only lay around and slurp semen all day aren't going to create anything.

>>3015390
most of the actual things that separate civilization from barbarians hitting each other with sticks is due to going beyond just war-waging. A prime example is Augustus, who was a weak, skinny and sickly kid who was a fucking terrible military leader, but had vision for the future of Rome

>>3015292
>getting involved in the largest conflicts in recorded history hand having your economic relevance destroyed because of it is girly
Huh

>>3015292

that's not history you retard

>>3015401
Augustus was one of the best leaders of all time even if his military service sucked. And he certainly wasn't a sissy.

>>3015406
Is this even English?

>>3015412
he was a sickly kid and scrawny his whole life. most of the muh army emperors of Rome were pretty terrible

>>3015412
Augustus was a horrible commander. He tried commanding several skirmishes personally and got his shit kicked, that's why he appointed Agrippa to command armies for him for the rest of his life. But he was an amazing administrator, he knew how to appoint right men to the right jobs.

>>3015151
Yes.

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Thing is, we've broken the cycle. There will be no more hard times, the only possible scenario to reverse the course we're in now is nuclear war, and it will literally never happen unless Kim Jong Un wants to show off, and China has him on a leash. He barks but he will not bite.

As such modern man can remain weak and suffer no consequences. No strong man,
that rises from a country experiencing hard times will be able to inflict any damage on the complacent first worlder defended by machines.
>b-but terrorist attacks!
Are inflicted on normal people, they could never destroy an army base or naval vessel, so we're fine.

There doesn't need to be a masculinity where men are brutish and physically strong when 95% of jobs don't even relate to physicality.

I mean, if our civilization depends upon people being smart and having technological ability, such as with computers, of course masculinity is going to change.

You can't expect men's identity to be the same today as it was 200 years ago, where manual labor was the norm both in cities and in the countryside.

I alpha bull. Who dere alpha bull? FUARK REGINAAAAA!

>>3015342
>Greeks and Romans made small dicks the ideal beauty standard to make themselves feel better
Those fuckers knew what was up.

>>3015151
This statue has back muscles that don't exist.

>>3015390
>There isn't a single civilization that wasn't built on violence
Wrong, civilization is build on the control of violence
>Muh police
Here to take take the monopole of force
>testosterone is correlated with cognitive abilites, creativity, strong will and endurance, shit like that.
Source faggot
>A bunch of limp wristed, physically weak, semi-tranny hedonist bitches who can only lay around and slurp semen all day aren't going to create anything.
Strange that faggot are overrepresented in the elite mate, and that your "ubermensh" are the majority of the plebe.

>>3015390
Why did he list his fetishes? What does it have to do with anything?