How did the Germanic tribes and peoples come to outperform the

>>3015091

They were used to having the Romans for protection and when they left they couldn't defend themselves against the Picts and Gaels.

>>3015109
The Gallic wars though was Roman vs celtic

>>3015133

he posted with the sutton hoo helmet so I posted what happened in britain.

>>3015197
Oh, I mean in general just using Saxon culture as example

>>3015109
They relied on the same Saxons for protection, and then when the Roman administration collapsed, the Saxons just carved their own kingdoms from the power vacuum. The Saxons had been there for centuries.

>>3015323

Sure in the same way Black Africans were in Roman Britain for centuries.

I think it makes a pretty big difference that there wasn't a single Germanic town there before they started coming by the boatloads.

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>>3015091
Celtics were too cucked by their women, both literally and figuratively. Every society that becomes mentally feminized and where woman reaches equal status of a man, will inevitably get conquered.

Why are there basically no celtic cultural/linguistic remnants in england?

>>3015348
Never heard of Stonehenge ?

>>3015407

Not in any way Celtic

Celtic and at least Italic/Germanic and maybe Slavic were still the same thing when it was constructed.

>>3015415
And how did they become different then?

>>3015423

I'm not going to explain the core basics of linguistics and I wouldn't do a very good job at it anyway. All that you need to know is that Stonehenge predates Indo-European languages by many centuries. When the construction began the people speaking the dialect which would lead to Italo-Celtic were living no further west than Hungary.

>>3015436
What's all the fighting about then? We're all one big family

>>3015091
Gauls were sissified by Roman amenities, there was no fighting culture left

>>3015451
Sibling rivalry.

>>3015348
Cornwall

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>>3015451
Who would you fight if not your equals? What glory is there to vanquish the weak and stupid?

>>3015333
>where woman reaches equal status of a man, will inevitably get conquered.

Minoans lasted for more than a full millenia before a volcano decided to fuck them up, and from what i hear, women led a very important role on their society if not more important than men.

Your point is moot.

>>3015889
>if not more important than men.
First time I hear that.

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>>3015091
>come to outperform the Celtic ones
mmm

>>3015091
Celts were also Germanic in origin

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>>3016592
Franks were Germanic.

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>>3016599
>Franks are Sicambrians
>Sicambrians were Celtic
>Somehow Franks are Germanic

mmm

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>>3016621
>Frankish (reconstructed Frankish: *Frenkisk),[2] Old Franconian or Old Frankish was the West Germanic language spoken by the Franks between the 4th and 8th century.

>The Franks (Latin: Franci or gens Francorum) were a collection of Germanic peoples that originated in the lands between the Lower and Middle Rhine in the 3rd century AD and eventually formed a large empire dominating much of western and central Europe during the Middle Ages.

>>3016646
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>>3015333
>believing 2000 year old Roman propaganda

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>>3016621
the fucking retards on this site, the only Celts alive today are in Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Britanny and something along the north coast in Spain.

>>3015091
The Germans were a matriarchal societies. It is well documented that women make better leaders while men are irrational and violent.

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>>3016621
>Sicambrians were Celtic
Nigga wha:"The Sicambri, also known as the Sugambri or Sicambrians, were a Germanic people who during Roman times lived on the right bank of the Rhine river, in what is now Germany, near the border with the Netherlands. They were first reported by Julius Caesar."

>>3015091
>MUH HELMET
>MUH SHAKESPEARE
>MUH TEA
Brits have the weirdest obsessions

>>3017797
Germanics were never matriarchal.

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>>3017797

>>3015889
You're making shit up, we know exactly jack and shit about the Minoan civilization considering we cannot even crack their alphabet.

>>3017779
Aengus O'Cuckoldrain

Celts were less of a warrior society, and more culturally inclined to things like art, song, ritual, mysticism and tradition, whereas Germanic societies were more centered around the physical state, the usefulness of a thousand spears, as opposed to the beauty of one master-crafted, bejeweled, golden spear. They were also alot more adventurous than Celts, who had no problem staying perfectly put in the same pleasant enclave their ancestors lived in, and were probably very surprised when Romans came en masse as a brutal machine of state, money and man-power, just like they were probably dumbfounded when Saxons, Jutes, Angles, Frisians and so forth came, and when Danish Vikings came, etc. etc.

The point being, that people generally placed a heavier emphasis on what something does, while the other was more interested in how something is.

I'm speaking specifically about the Celtic peoples of Briton and Ireland, but the point stands for the Gallic or Iberian Celtic peoples as well, in that a society that concerned itself more with art, song, dance, belief, with combat as a ritual, with weaponry as a work of art, with state as a cultural body, was eventually overtaken by those societies that concerned themselves with trade, exploration, politics, pragmatism, the mobilization of men for material purposes, combat as a science, and weaponry as a tool.

>>3015333
This is really dumb. Also why mention King Arthur? he was a Christian Romano-Briton in the legend, and probably never existed at all. Lancelot is completely fictional and made up by Chretian De Troyes for his Romances

>>3015333
In what we know, Germanic women have been far more "open" to foreign invaders than Britons were to Romans, or Irish were to English, etc. etc.

>>3017799
Lol no

Their kings had names like Deudorix and Betorix, and Sicambri itself is a Celtic name.

>>3019496
PIE *eu became *ou in Proto-Celtic

Deudorix sounds like a possible Latin rendering of Proto-Germanic *þeudoriks

>>3019532
Nice try but the suffix "reik" is rendered "ric" in Latin as for þeudoriks it is attested as Theodoric

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The Britons spoke a Gallo-Roman language different to the Welsh language which survived on the edges of society.

The Saxons spoke a Germanic language, when they became the rulers of most of Britain, the Britons then started to adopt Germanic words in order to communicate with the rulers.

This exact process occurred again when the Saxons were defeated by the French speaking Normans. Now the Britons started to use French words to speak to their new rulers. The Old English and Middle English are not the same languages.

Middle English is

> Brythonic substrate
> Latin

> Brythonic and Latin substrate
> German

> Brythonic, Latin, and German substrate
> French


Anyone who disagrees is a Protestant Degenerate.

>>3019544
>Nice try but the suffix "reik" is rendered "ric" in Latin as for þeudoriks it is attested as Theodoric
That doesn't mean much considering it's attested 400 years later

>>3019577
>He insist
Rix is purely Celtic

there's a theory that there was always a germanic presence in the extreme south east of england

>>3019587
Nope.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/r%C4%ABks

>>3019593
The Romans launched theiur invasion from Germania, Germans first came to Britain with the Romans, Jewish history tells you that Germans destroyed the Empire at the end, implying that Germans never existed in the Empire, but this is false, Germans were influential at the inception of the Empire.

>>3019596
>An early borrowing from Proto-Celtic *rīxs, from Proto-Indo-European *h3rḗǵs.

Read your own link

It is written that it is borrowed from Celtic and it distinguish between the genuine "rix" and germanic bastardization "riks"

>>3019622
>borrowed from Celtic

And? Is anyone whose named John a Hebrew? The first part of the name Deud-/Theud is Germanic, meaning people. Deuderix/Theuderiks = ruler of the people.

>genuine "rix" and germanic bastardization "riks"

The name is reported by a Roman chronicler and those forms basically sound the same.

>>3015333
I knew instantly when I saw the thread that someone was going to post that.

>>3019637
>Deuderix/Theuderiks = ruler of the people

Rix is celtic, it would be Deudoriks/Deudoric if it was a Germanic name

And you forgot Beto-rix which mean Eternal/Everlasting King in Gaulish

>>3019644

We know these names from Strabo (not a Roman, but a Greek, my bad). -ix and -iks basically sound the same, so it's not surprising he wrote it down as ξ.

>And you forgot Beto-rix

It's Baitorix though

>which mean Eternal/Everlasting King in Gaulish

Though you have any source for the meaning of that name?

>>3019692
rix mean king in Gaulish

And "beto" is attested as "memento BETO to diuo" "(ALWAYS remember your god) in Life of Saint Symphorien

>>3019701
> "memento BETO to diuo" "(ALWAYS remember your god) in Life of Saint Symphorien

https://vroegemiddeleeuwen.weblog.leidenuniv.nl/2013/05/01/in-voce-gallica/

You quoted the sentence wrong, and mentobeto is interpreteted as a verb meaning "remember".

>>3015533
i'd say that is probably true for northern gaul but in the south where all those yummy mediterranean ports were, there was still a heavy military culture. weren't the gaulo-roman breakaway kingdoms/duchies of aquitaine and gascon still resisting against frankish intrusion up until the time of otto I's coronation as hre?

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>>3019701

Nope i quoted it well

>>3020449
>true for northern gaul

LMAO
We were the last to fall to the Barbarians

You're all subhumans compared to us

>>3020500
>We were the last to fall to the Barbarians
i don't understand who you are referring to. are you saying i am incorrect or are you supporting what i am saying with a personal larp of your own?

>>3020725
What i say is that while you were gagging on Gothic cocks we killed them same goes for the Burgundians, the Alans, the Huns, and so on

>>3020500
If you read the link I posted here >>3019745, that the original sentence was "Nate, nate, mentobe(to) to deuo", meaning "Son, son, remember your god". What you posted is a later corruption.

Either way, you neither made a case for a translation as "always, eternal" nor for a connection between Baito- and (mento)beto.

It's quite impressive though how you find the most obscure stuff to support your pseudo-arguments.