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>Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent,

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>Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.… National pride has no need of the delirium of race.
Was he, dare I say, more intelligent than hitler?
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he ruled for significantly longer and had more legitimacy yes. hitler basically ruined his comfy little fascist state.
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>>3010179
Shame that Italy had a monarchy and Mussolini couldn't go through a gruesome civil war. Mussolini had a lot less actual control than his northern and eastern counterparts since the king was still in place and his rise to power was relatively bloodless.
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>>3010174
Yes but with the Manifesto Dell'a Razza thing he just followed whatever Hitler told him to like a weakling.
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>>3010174
>Was he more intelligent than hitler?
obviously.
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>>3010174
yes obvioisly, he gentile created the whole ideology and made ceasarism compatible with the 20th century. Meanwhile shitler stole italians and roman culture and decided to lead to army himself
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>>3010174
It's a sign
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>>3010174
based civic nationalism
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>>3010174
Both are charismatic idiots
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>>3010174
Kinda, Hitler admired Mussolini. Mussolini's mistake was entering ww2 (obviously) and also going in poorly prepared and maybe he overestimated the strength of his own country. I'm not a fascist but I certainly do find him interesting.
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Mussolini is a far better person than Hitler. He was also less evil (at least the popular consensus.) Until he started buddying up with Hitler, mainly because at that point he realised his empire ambition would never be fulfilled in a world where the allies were in charge
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>>3010174
He was still dangerous and practiced wars of racist and imperialist aggression against Ethiopia.
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>>3010383
Italy NEEDS to accept africans and gypsies as their own, it's the only way they can survive
fuck racism :(
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>>3010388
Do those Africans actually even stay in Italy? They seem to mostly use it a way to get into places like Germany, France, Sweden, Belgium
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>>3010363
Mussolini knew Italy wasn't ready for war and warned Hitler the country wouldn't be ready for several years, but was afraid of being overshadowed and left in the dust if he didn't join in on Hitler's spergout. Mussolini's greatest failing was his fragile ego, if he could have controlled his empire building urges and need to constantly be seen as one of the big men of Europe, he would have been much more successful.
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>>3010441
>>3010357

Meant for
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>>3010401
They do, and generally end up begging in big cities or working like slaves in the fields
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Maybe if Mussolini had gone the Franco route and stayed neutral.
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>>3010388
Well yes, if they conquer Ethiopia and Libya, then they're obliged to accept them atleast as second class citizens.
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>>3010971
Where does this logic come from?
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>>3010174
I think he speaking more about ethnicity rather than race, I don't believe Mussolini was an egalitarian.
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>>3010626
>>>/pol/
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>>3010605
Mussolini always struck me as very different from Franco. While Franco just tried to protect the interests of the Spanish clergy and landlords, Mussolini wanted to create a new, futuristic society. One was a reactionary, the other a (failed) revolutionary, whose ideology was more similar to Stalinism than Hitlerism. Franco hated Stalin and the Soviet Union - Mussolini admired it and constantly pressed Hitler for an armstice on the Eastern Front.

If it wasn't for Hitler, Mussolini wouldn't be seen nearly as bad today.
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>>3010174

This. Mussolini was not a racist, he was an epic leader who would have had no problem with BASED black guys.
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BASED BLACK MUSSOLINI SUPPORTER IN AN IL DUCE HAT I WANT YOU TO FUCK MY WIFE
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Well /his/?
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>>3011110
>>3010626
It sure is summer.
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>>3010401
Some do stay in Italy but most of the immigrants that you always read stories about in the Mediterranean just go to northern countries.
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>>3010184
>did whatever Hitler told
>except when Hitler wanted to annex Austria early into his reign and got BTFO by Mussolini putting his troops on the Austrian border
A lot of ignorant folks forget that Mussolini was anti-Hitler until the Allies pissed him off by condemning his invasion of Ethiopia.
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>>3011137
he was a f*ucking terrone
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Mussolini was smarter in terms of being more pragmatic; had Hitler been more like Mussolini in terms of aggressiveness, then a Greater Germany could exist today, along with fascism as a viable political ideology. Hitler' through invading Poland and starting the Second World War, basically spelled the doom of fascism and fascism-like ideologies, at least in Europe. History shows that Britain and France weren't going to stop Hitler from partitioning Czechoslovakia & annexing Austria, or Mussolini from taking over Albania and Ethiopia.

It Hitler hadn't sperged out and invaded Poland, then they probably could have kept that territory.
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>>3010357
>and also going in poorly prepared and maybe he overestimated the strength of his own country.
Mussolini only signed the Pact of Steel because von Ribbentrop promised him that Germany wouldn't start a war for 3 years. Hitler invaded Poland 4 months later
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>>3011258
He was born in northern Italy you dweeb.
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>>3010998
Benito believed that culture was more important than "Race". I guess he'd be cool with just about anyone as long as they LARPed as a Dago?
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>>3010174
Yes
He wasn't too bad. His worst mistake was allying with the Nazis.
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>>3011320
No. It's based on the fact that certain individuals incapable to integrate and follow a national and productive ideal, are unfit to live on their land. That's how the human race has been increasing its intellect for millions of years, eliminating the tribes which couldn't adapt and repeat the best ideas, strategies and ways of living of the moment.
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>>3011385
So as long as you weren't a tard you'd be fine? Would Mussolini be more likely to accept a smart, Italianized Lybian or some dumb Terrone?

t. Burger who genuinely wants to learn more about Il Duce
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxn5v1KZWe4

>an entire marching song about jungle fever

were they /ourguys/ afterall?
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>>3011137
Forest niggers btfo
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>>3010174

>Mussolini saw high birthrates in Africa and Asia as a threat to the "white race" and he often asked the rhetorical question "Are the blacks and yellows at the door?" to be followed up with "Yes, they are!".[78]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini#Rise_to_power
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>>3011413
I didn't study him a lot. Ask someone else.
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>>3011256
Never heard that. Can you point out the source ?
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>>3010991
From a godforsaken land called africa
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>>3011421
Wtf i love gassing ethiopian peasants to death now
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>>3010174
yes.

"white nationalism" and other manners of idiocy get in the way of actual fascism, which is centered around the distinction of cultures and nation-states rather than race, religion etc.
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>Was he, dare I say, more intelligent than hitler?

Yeah, which is why Italy was superior to Germany in all aspects at the time.

Oh wait.
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>>3011492
You're in luck. I'll give you a primary source:
>http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1934/07/27/page/1/article/48-000-troops-sent-to-border-by-mussolini/
The Italian military was strong enough to BTFO early Nazi Germany if they tried anything, since the Italians were the only "semi-active" military in Europe, and you're probably familiar with the general weakness of the German military in the wake of the Weimar Republic.

Here's the Wikipedia article:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini#Foreign_policy
>After Adolf Hitler came into power, threatening Italian interests in Austria and the Danube basin, Mussolini proposed the Four Power Pact with Britain, France and Germany in 1933. When the Austrian 'austro-fascist' Chancellor Engelbert Dollfuss with dictatorial power was assassinated on 25 July 1934, by National-Socialist supporters, Mussolini even threatened Germany with war in the event of a German invasion of Austria. Mussolini for a period of time continued strictly opposing any German attempt to obtain Anschluss and promoted the ephemeral Stresa Front against Germany in 1935.
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Read Renzo de Felice's Mussolini biography/history of the National Fascist Party and you will know better.

More intelligent? At least less harmful than Uljanov or Hitler, because only 26 executions from March to Rome to start of Ethiopian adventure.

Intelligent? No, I would never classify socialist - international or national - intelligent. And Mussolini would have remained 'pure breed' socialist had he not been pro-interventionist towards the Great war, for which he's party comrades condemned him.
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>>3011789
all that intellect just to follow a brainlet like Hitler, what a waste
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>>3011812
>Hitler
>Brainlet

Good one

>Talented artist
>Stratgically succeeded in battle during WW1
>one of the greatest well known orator
>author of a best selling book

Haters gonna hate
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>>3011789
>Schacht was the smartest
>Streicher was the biggest dumbass
That sounds about accurate honestly.
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>>3011810
Fuck you moron. Only 26 executions? What about the thousands of illiterate Ethiopian peasants who were gassed to death because Italians are too cowardly to fight even niggers head-on?
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>>3011864
killing in battles != executions
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>>3011833
>bestseller
heh
>orator
heh
>succeeded WW1
my fucking sides
>talented artist
I'll give you that
>not a brainlet
If being a failed Picasso is not being a brainlet, sure.
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>>3011888
"Heh" is not a valid counter argument.

Here's a fedora.
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>>3011864
Are you illiterate?
>to start of Ethiopian adventure
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>>3011864
>comparing executions with war
People die in a war you know.
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>>3011877
To be fair they did use illegal poison gas that was banned from warfare. They also killed 1/4th of Libya's population through executions and concentration camps.
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>>3010388
Looks at those poor refugee women and children that just want safety from Assad.

More than a refugee!
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>>3011209
>Biology stops where the human race begins
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>>3010174
Mussollini was the biggest flip flopper of all time.

>I'm a socialist
>okay I got kicked out of the socialist party, better join a new meme ideology - FASCISM
>fascism is all about universal suffrage and equal rights, non-aggressive foreign policy, sounds like the perfect philosophy
>actually scratch that I changed my mind, fascism should be authoritarian and militaristic
>race doesn't exist and racists are dumb, also jews are our greatest allies
>this Hitler faggot has some nerve, a lowly Germanic peasant trying to talk down to glorious Romans
>now that I thought it over Hitler actually sounds like a decent chap, let's ally with him
>Roman empire should be recreated, there is no match for Roman strength, let's conquer the Mediterranean for ourselves
>Hitler please help I'm being BTFO by a bunch of Greek sheepfuckers
>other fascists have enough of my faggotry and arrest me
>you know what, fuck fascism, I'm a NATIONAL SOCIALIST now, gas the kikes race war now
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>>3011800
Thx senpai
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>>3011449
The 21st century will be the century of China
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>>3010174
Mussolini was a true artist who made politics into a fine art

Hitler painted postcards
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>>3010174
No. He was a shithead and incompetent. Look at his ideas on race and culture and his failure to lead Italy.

The Nazis outclassed the PNF both ideologically and aesthetically.
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>>3011044
>>>/r/eddit
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>>3011137
WE WUZ BUILDING AQUEDUCTS AND SHIET WHILE SNOWNIGGERS WUZ LIVIN' IN CAVES
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I think that a small number within the human race are evolving intellectually to the next level. However, simultaneously most of the remainder of humanity is regressing in key, important ways. Ways that have typically defined "what it means to be human".
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>>3011938
>fascism is all about universal suffrage and equal rights, non-aggressive foreign policy, sounds like the perfect philosophy

Was this true at some point?
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