You have 10 seconds to name one significant ancient Persian/Iranian

>>2989960
""""multiculturalism""""

>>2989960
duality of good and evil

>>2989978
This. All modern religion wouldn't exist as we know it today without the inspiration Zarathustra provided to the early Hebrews.

>>2989978
Wrong, people counted to two in earlier cultures before the Persians.

>>2990011
Wrong, people believed in spirits before the Persians.

Persian accomplishments: 0

>>2989960
monotheism

>>2990019
earlier cultures had thought that good is what benefits them, their tribe or their family. The old testament still has plenty of stories based on that belief.

The idea that there is a fundamental, universal moral is a Persian invention

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A E S T H E T I C S

Universal human rights.

>>2990036
I'm just meming and making fun of the Rome thread.

>>2989960
I can't. They copied everything from the Mesopotamians the same way Romans copied everything from Greece

Persian empire existed solely so Alexander could destroy it. It served its purpose

>>2989960
Persia is dead. Isn't it? Swallowed whole by Islam.

>>2990139
>Persians exist still
>"Swallowed whole by Islam"
Are you confusing the rest of Mesopotamia and the Levant with Iranians?

>>2990108
Qanats were created by Persians.

>>2990139
Even today Iranians are based, never seen a fucking Shia cunt fly a plane into a building or run brits over in a van have you? I hope they nuke the fuck out of the Saudis

>>2989960
Pants, knights, aquaducts

>>2990108
Qanats (underground irrigation canals used centuries before the Roman's came up with their aquifers), dams, paved roads, cements, Royal Road, Darius Canal bridging and connecting the Nile River with the Red Sea, archeological finds on the Parthian and Sassanid periods also show their merchants and trademen used highly sophisicated branding to promote their products, jousting existing since the Parthian period. Also iirc the oldest confirmed and attested use of bricklaying was in Iran dating back to around 6000 BC. Wine also dating back to 5000 BC in the Iranian plateau but that probably wasn't by Indo-Iranics. Zigguarts though again probably not from Indo-Iranics, peaches, parks (paradisas were specific persian style gardens used as open parks and teraces), windmills, first monothestic religion in the form of Zoroastrianism, courier system, etc...

>>2990139
They beat the entire world in a war less than 50 years ago anon

>>2989960
Chess

>>2990305
Chess is from India, Persians did Backgammon iirc.

>>2990139
More like Islam got swallowed by Persia.

>>2990300
>entire world
Are you nemeing about the Iran Iraq world based on that one wikipedia picture?

>>2990326
Are you dumb?

>>2990374
Are you?

>>2990290
Qanats that were unfixably destroyed by Mongols under Dschingis Khan?

I guess somewhere engineering knowledge might have gotten lost.

>>2990481
They required continuous maintenance, so when the mongols came in a lot were destroyed

>>2990396
No but you are.

>>2990481
>>2990485
Such a sad waste of a technological and amazing feat of engineering that had its system last for nearly over 2000+ years by the time the Mongols wrecked everything in Persia thanks to those retarded Turkic pretenders of the Khwaramzian Empire. Might also explain why desertification became a serious issue in Iran from that point on.

a lot of math that the arab shit muslims claim to have created.

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>>2989960
>The first book of law
>Precursor to the Ten Commandments
>Except redundant as fuck

>>2990503

I'm smarter than you.

>>2990011
Eh. Duality had been a thing, they got that before then. However, without the Persians helping them to build the Second Temple, there simply wouldn't be Jews, Christians or Muslims today.

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Curved. Swords.

>>2990527
Sweetie...

>>2990545
arent that the turks?

>>2990485
>>2990513
Why not rebuild them?

What was the problem?

>>2990541
Doubtful.

>>2990545
Scimitars? Those were from Isamic Iranians and originate with the early Muslim Arabs I think. Pre-Islamic Iranians had primarily used short stabbing straight bladed swords and later ones in the Parthian and Sassanid periods closely resembled their Roman/Byzantine counterparts.

>>2990567
Large number of Iranian/Persian communities, urban centers, cities, and towns were devastated all over Central Asia and Western Asia by the Mongols. This includes decimation to large swathes of their populations. Anyways, they still do but as academics, scholars, engineers, ete...are killed, the knowledge is generally lost.

Iran to this day still uses a large number of qanats.

>>2990584
>Those were from Isamic Iranians and originate with the early Muslim Arabs I think.
Both Persians and Arabs used straight swords. The curved ones were brought by the Turks around 10th century.

>>2990593
Arabs were using curved swords before and during the rise of the Rashidun Caliphate. Persians and other Iranians back then all primarily used straight swords. I don't think there's any strong evidence of pre-Islamic Iranians using primarily curved swords.

>>2990545
>>2990600
It's not fucking curved you memer cunts reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>2990584
>qanats

I found something:
https://books.google.at/books?id=DLPDDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=why+where+qanats+not+rebuilt&source=bl&ots=IUW0iowdkQ&sig=GRMQ9IvwA_BSoTS3bQlLOJAGue0&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjnqeCzrdTUAhUKbhQKHT-NBskQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&q=why%20where%20qanats%20not%20rebuilt&f=false

Central Asia and the Silk Road
Economic Rise and Decline over Several Millennia
By: Barisitz, Stephan
1st ed. 2017 (9. Mai 2017)
ISBN-10: 3319512129
ISBN-13: 978-3319512129

Page 113
>In the long run, the Mongol invasion had a grave impact on agriculture on the Iranian Plateau. This region largely lacks great rivers and even contains some deserts (Dasht-i-Kavir, Lut). Therefore farming is dependent on the elaborate qanat (karez) system of irrigation – a system of underground water channels that brings the water, often over many kilometers, to where it is needed. Some of these channels were destroyed during the Mongol invasions, and without effective irrigation much of the land would soon revert to desert. Moreover, qanats, even if not actually destroyed, may swiftly cease to operate if they are not continually maintained. As Morgan explains: If peasants were killed in large numbers, or fled from their land and stayed away, or were expelled, arable land could suffer irreparable damage simply through neglect of the qanats. Stripped of their farming hinterland, some cities would soon lack adequate or cheap food supplies and other support, and therefore would probably not be rebuilt to anything approaching their previous size, or in any case would be more costly to reconstruct (Morgan 2007, 70-71).

Also 17 million sheep moved in, along with settlers and fucked things up even further.
(I think a similar thing happened with North African agriculture moving to pasture farming.)

>>2989960
The garden.

Enabling the Greeks to rise to power.

>>2989960
Heavy cavalry tactics, architecture, medicines, etc

The Greeks probably learned of the sexagesimal system through them but they probably learned it from the previous Babylonians/Mesopotamians just like the Greeks are said to have learned from the Egyptians.

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GIRUGAMESH!!!!

>Most epicest gay epic, ever.

>>2990108
>they copied from the Mesopotamians
Mesopotamia is in Iran

>>2989960
Just a simple google search tells me that they were the first to create a money economy.

>>2990878
retarded logic
>Hur tobacco came from America so the US invented it.

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>Conquers pretty much the entire civilized world.
>The resulting empire lasts over 200 years.
>Brings region to heights of civilization never seen before.
>Mad pussy.
>Meanwhile, this nerd "Alex", whose empire doesn't even last a day beyond his short life, somehow gets all the recog.

>>2990873

Wrong culture

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>>2989960
Umm... Pretty much everything? I mean never mind >>2990544, they were pretty much responsible, either directly or indirectly, for civilization in the western world.

I mean sure, some mad macedonian king took over the Persian empire in the end, but all that civilization spreading infrastructure was there for centuries before he was born, and without it, there wouldn't have been anything to conquer but wandering nomads and the occasional trading post.

>>2990899
Well, right region.

Is kinda akin to crediting the Mexicans for the Aztec pyramids though.

Then again, the Aztecs didn't build those pyramids either.

>>2990923

No it's more like crediting Colombians for the Mexican Aztec pyramids. Gilgamesh is not related to Iran or Indo-Iranian people.

>>2989960
Wind towers.

>>2989960
Persians = Slaves of Turks

1500 years baby, it aint no joke

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>>2990545
Those came from Central Asians and Turkics.

Basically took the Chinese single-edger- the straight Dao- and gave it a curve.

>>2990895
here, get a free hug

>>2990139
They voluntarily embraced Islam.

>>2993830
Iranians didn't become nominally majority Muslim as a people till about 400+ years after the Islamic conquest.

>>2992175
No, Memet.

The word "paradise"

>>2991264
>Persians = Slaves of Turks
>First Turkic War with Persia: Turks BTFO
>Second Turkic War with Persia: Turks BTFO
>Third Turkic War with Persia whose also fighting the the Byzantines in the West: Turks still BTFO

Also where is this "1500" years bullshit come from?

>>2989960
The Parthians kept the Romans and the Chinese from contacting each other directly.

>>2989960
This is the worst meme that has come out of /his/ yet.

Lots of poetry and poetic forms

>>2989960
carpets and fluffy cats

>>2990029
The Zoroastrians believe that 2 gods exist, they just only worship one. So in a way, no they did't event monotheism.

>>2989960
Water Beds

>>2994449
Roaches think they are so superior, so they exaggerate or make shit up to settle their inferiority complex.
Had another roach in another thread imply they have dominated their region for 1000 years.

>>2995687
>>2994449
not him but persia has been ruled by Turk dynasties for more than 1500 years, go back to /pol/ to shill your ethnicity

This thread was a huge mistake faggots. Now all the literal "we wuz kangz" iranboos are gonna come out of the woodwork. Iranians are the slightly-more-productive niggers of asia

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>>2989960
Concept of knighthood

Mozart, Beethoven, we also built the pyramids

>>2989960

The Book of Esther

>>2994354
http://www.innovateus.net/innopedia/what-history-scimitar-sword

>>2995701
>but persia has been ruled by Turk dynasties for more than 1500 years

Mehmet please, the first Turk dynasty that ruled Iran was the Seljuks, and that was in 1000 AD.

For about 150 years you had Mongols ruling Iran, and for about 50 years during the mid 1700s Iran was a balkanized mess.

Qanat wells, which allowed for irrigation and settlement in deserts

>>2989960
Shia islam

Basically anything positive Islam is credited for

>>2996648
This but also:

- carpets
- tea (maybe not the first culture but definitely one of the earliest ones)
- wine
- chocolates
- windmills
- underground water irrigation canals and wells
- batteries
- mathematics (Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry)
- medicines (late Sassanid era has Persian scholars theorizing about anti-bodies white cells in the human body)
- Academy of Gondishapur
- philosophies
- Backgammon
- Astronomy

>>2996023
Safavids from the mid-15th to mid-18th century were an Iranian dynasty though.

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Aren't the Persians considered the most evil of empires in history?

>>2989960
Zoroastrian sister mothers, many faps been had to that in my CL2

>>2990254
>Iranians are based

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings

>>2999701
That's the turks

>>2989960
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Iran#Contributions_to_humanity_in_ancient_history

Read, faggot.

>>2999719
That was in response to Israeli aggression and a battle on Iran's regional turf. Iranians never attack innocents on foreign soil unlike Wahhabi scum.

>>2990139
So Europe died when it was swallowed by Christianity?

>>2990321
>Chess is from India, Persians did Backgammon iirc.
Checkmate/check is a fundamental rule of Chess and was added by Persians.

>>3000109
>turf
sphere*

>>3000109
>Iranians never attack innocents on foreign soil unlike Wahhabi scum

http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/16/federal-judge-iran-shares-responsibility-for-911-terror-attacks/#ixzz26yuUm99b

>>2990561
Syths

>>3000123
>this dumb shit again

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>>3000123
Jeeze... Really?

I suppose we're gonna find a way to pin that on China, Russia, Venezuela, and Cuba next?

>>3001067
...and sell another billion dollars of high tech weapons to Saudi Arabia meantime, which will in no way ever come back to bite us in the ass, ever.

...Never mind (((them))).

>>3000123
retard

>modern brick.
>Wine.
>Guitar wire.
>Backgammon.
> Cyrus Cylinder: The world's first charter of human rights.
> Zoroastrianism: where the first prophet of a monotheistic faith.
>Polo.
> First Banking System of the World.
>Check.
>Taxation.
>Courier post.
> Yakhchals, ancient refrigerators.
>Ice Creams.
>Windmill.
>Cookie.
>Hospital.
> First systematic use of alcohol in Medicine.
>Qanats.
>Wind-catchers.
>Algebra.
>Xenotransplantation.
>Astrolabe.
>Sorena humanoids.
>Discovery of spermatagonial stem cells.
>Shear force microscopy.
>Space-time block code.
>e-bay.
>Plasmonic shield.
>Cable modem.
>Tongue-Drive Wheelchair.
> Dendrosome.
> PARS (Parallel Application from Rapid Simulation).
> Composite Metal Foam (CMF).
etc.

>>3002218
>Space-time block code
>Shear Force microsocpy
What are these?

>>3000636
>>3001067
>>3001087
404 argument not found

>>3003471
Okay, Finkstein.

>>2989960
Didn't they make an empire that was later controlled by the Greeks? Like he didn't conquer the whole thing the land just transferred ownership. I feel like the Hellenistic period wouldn't have happened if the Persian empire wasn't there, or would have been a lot harder.

>>2989960

Pants

>>3000123
(((federal judge)))

>>2999701
You are thinking of the eternal Anglo.

history

>>2989960
desert fridge

silk road