What historical tragedy brought you to the brink of tears the

trail of tears

The destruction of Carthage and it's library.

Really though reading about any major library being destroyed as well.

>>2986429
The Holocaust

>>2986429
The crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

>>2986443
Yeah maybe all those books could have taught you the difference between "it's" and "its"

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>>2986462

Also if y'all could shoot over a few books to enlighten my pleb self that'd be very appreciated

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When hitler died...

The Fall of Constantinople still angers me.

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>>2986429

>>2986466
The illegal trial, beating, flogging, humiliation, and crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

>>2986494
>illegal trial
explain

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What could have been... sadly the eternal anglo and german had to intervene.

When boxer died in animal farm put a lump in my throat. Reading about the historic parallel just enraged me.

>>2986464
>Pointing out insignificant grammar errors on an anonymous shitposting site

I can't believe that typo got through my editor! I should have him fired.

>>2986462
That never happened

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it hurts to think about

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The destruction (or rather, betrayal) of the Spanish Republic.

1453

>>2986539
the real sad date is 1204 when the Crusaders sacked Constantinople and forever sealed the fate of their should-be christian brethren

The fall of Constantinople to the muslims

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China's cultural revolution

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The first time I read about the Fall of Constantinople I was actually pretty indifferent. I thought it was regrettable but nothing special.

I ended up reading a more detailed account recently and it did actually physically bring me to tears by the end of it. It's the quintessential Last Stand narrative, it's got everything: action, betrayal, heroism, and one last ray of hope before everything comes tumbling down.

In a broader historical sense it marked the end of a political entity that had existed for over 2200 years. That's insane to think about.

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>>2986603

>>2986429
The Ides of March

>>2986603
>playing Assassin's Creed Revelation
>siding with the Turks
>think the Byzantine loyalists are the bad guys
>don't feel anything about everything being converted to Islamic shit
>now I can't even think about the Fall of Constantinople without getting angry
We could've had a Christian Constantinople if not for the Brits and Frogs stopping the Russians from squashing the roach.

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>>2986429
How Patton was about to liberate Prague and then the Soviets got butthurt and ordered him (through Eisenhower) to stand down. Meanwhile the local Czechs were being massacred by the SS. I have no connection to the Czech republic but the senseless slaughter of people literally made me start crying while reading about it.

>>2986603
>first Emperor in Constantinople was Constantine, son of Helena
>eleven centuries later
>last Emperor in Constantinople was Constantine the Eleventh, son of Helena
What did history mean by this

thucydides' account of the athens plague, I think it illustrates mankinds powerlessness in the face of nature quite well

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>>2986620
You had one more chance, Europe and you blew it.

We earned Istanbul with blood and lead. If you want it back fight for it.

>>2986641
We're circles of fire not invented yet? Don't know why nobody didn't just circle themselves.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Nek

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Reading about the Islamic Conquests makes me sad, all those cultures, all those languages, all those people and ethnicities, gone forever, they're just another faceless entity under some oppressive, dogmatic cult.

>>2986497
I can't do it justice. I'll try though.

1. Arrested in secret at night with no formal charges using a paid informant by the men who would be his judges.
2. Tried in secret at night, in a death penalty case.
3. No credible charges against him, but for one the judges themselves brought.
4. Held without witnesses for the defense, again, at night and in secret.
5. Illegally convened court on the eve of a sabbath and two festivals for a death penalty case.
6. Death penalty case tried in shorter than 1 day, where law provides at least 2.
7. Judgment was made on Jesus' forced testimony that He is God (which was actually true). The judges never considered the truth of his
8. Hit and struck by his judges, contrary to Law.
9. Held without any pro-Jesus witnesses or supporters or judges, like Nicodemus.
10. Unanimous guilty verdict, which under their Law is proof of a conspiracy and the defendant is let free.
11. Sentence passed not in the only appointed place, in court, but in the High Priest's house.
12. Many people who bought their position were judges; also a dozen men who were ex High Priests, when that office is for life;
13. Switched the guilty verdict from blasphemy to sedition/treason before Pilate;
14. Found innocent by Pilate, but called for death penalty anyway via threats of blackmail to Caesar;
15. Condemned by mob violence to a charge he was innocent of; in fact, two charges in which he was innocent.

There may not be a Sanhedrin trial rule that they did not break in order to condemn and murder Jesus.

>>2986528
>Solipsism, the post.

>>2986429
The genocides Germans committed in ww2 in general, the sacrifice of father Kolbe in particular.

The way Germans, in particular the high command, betrayed Jewish veterans with the Dolchstoßlegende, and later, with an attempt to exterminate them.

The entire clusterfuck that is the French revolution.

Civil wars in general, neighbors fighting neighbors always gets me. There's a Spanish song, "Madre, anoche en las trincheras", that illustrates that very well.

The way Franz Josef betrayed all other nationalities in the Austrian Empire in favour of traitorous Hungarians, indirectly causing its dissolution.

The Ottoman Empire's influence on the Balkans.

>>2986462
according to the koran that never happened

>>2986429
The Passion and death of Jeanne d'Arc.

>>2986494
>>2986724
there are no primary sources to support any of this, it was all made up later

>>2986429
The Fall of Constantinople is the only one which literally brought me to tears.

>>2986630
>first king of rome is Romulus
>first emperor of rome is Augustus
>last emperor of the WRE is Romulus Augustus
what did history mean by this

Has ANYONE, EVER shed a tear for all of those poor gypsies killed by the Nazi bastards?

>>2986429

the Selk'nam (and adjacent tribes) genocide. One of the most interesting peoples both culturally and physiologically speaking that I've researched

When i learned how the communists winning the Russian Revolution was the tipping point that gave the Jews enough muscle to complete world domination.

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>>2986627
mfw we could have been saved by the US but literally no politicians cared for us and the Americans left the parts of Czech they were already in

>>2986919
I feel ashamed as an American. We should've been removing commies at every step and corner in Europe

>>2986437
Haha they deserved it
-t. Atlantan.

>>2986523
Quality joke, have a (you).

>>2986915
I fucking wish Bolsheviks ruled the world.

>>2986953
Yep. Definitely should have repurposed the Wehrmacht and sent them east, this time with our bomber support.

>>2986429
gallipoli
>turkish memepire finally about to end
>anglos save their asses once again, this time not even intended

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Majorian's fleet being destroyed by Vandal fire ships leading to his revival of the Western Roman Empire stalling and his eventual execution.

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>>2987229
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>2986429
potato famine

>>2986523
I laughed.

>>2986492

Those dixie krauts got what they deserved.

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Fall of Rome to the Lombards, combined with the knowlege of everything else that happened.

I don't have any more tears left in me.

reading accounts of the Muslims defiling the city of Constantinople, and performing indignities upon the people there

>>2986523
kekd

>>2986603

>pic
>queue doom music

>>2986724
>unanimous verdict is evidence of conspiracy
Nigga what?

>>2986492
Is that supposed to depict Saylors Creek? Cause if so I think that may have been the only time the mental imagery of reading about an event has brought me to tears.

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>>2986429
Napoleon's Hundred Days.
"If there is one among you who wishes to kill his emperor, here I am."
>ywn be charismatic enough to make your fellow soldiers desert and follow you one more time

>>2986673
>We earned Constantinople
No you didnt, the catholicucks served it to you on a silver platter

>>2986489
>>2986539
>>2986552
>>2986603
>>2986779
>>2987440
recommend sources and media on the fall of constantinople
im in for a feels night

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1204 brought me tears of happiness.
>The Crusaders looted, terrorized, and vandalized Constantinople for three days, during which many ancient and medieval Roman and Greek works were either stolen or destroyed. The famous bronze horses from the Hippodrome were sent back to adorn the façade of St Mark's Basilica in Venice, where they remain. As well as being stolen, works of immeasurable artistic value were destroyed merely for their material value. One of the most precious works to suffer such a fate was a large bronze statue of Hercules, created by the legendary Lysippos, court sculptor of Alexander the Great. Like so many other priceless artworks made of bronze, the statue was melted down for its content by the Crusaders. The great Library of Constantinople was destroyed as well.

>Despite their oaths and the threat of excommunication, the Crusaders systematically violated the city's holy sanctuaries, destroying or stealing all they could lay hands on; nothing was spared, not even the tombs of the emperors inside the St Apostles church. The civilian population of Constantinople were subject to the Crusaders' ruthless lust for spoils and glory; thousands of them were killed in cold blood. Women, even nuns, were raped by the Crusader army,[ which also sacked churches, monasteries and convents. The very altars of these churches were smashed and torn to pieces for their gold and marble by the warriors. Although the Venetians engaged in looting too, their actions were far more restrained.[citation needed] Doge Dandolo still appeared to have far more control over his men. Rather than wantonly destroying all around like their comrades, the Venetians stole religious relics and works of art, which they would later take to Venice to adorn their own churches.
Based Venice.Those sea merchant Jews have been cucking Byzanshits since forever.

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>>2987902
>The great Library of Constantinople was destroyed as well.
So much History has been destroyed.

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>>2986429
When Constantinople was taken by the Turks.

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>>2986429
Fall of Constantinople

>>2986876
Any recommended reading on this? Sounds fascinating.

>>2986620
I am stilled pissed about that; fuck ass creed for pulling that shit

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>>2987902
THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST FUCKING STOP THE PAIN IS TOO MUCH

>>2986499
what do you mean?

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>>2986429
End of Monarchies in general is a bit sad to me, even if the rulers themselves weren't the best.

>all the butthurt about constantinople
Oh no anatolians conquered an anatolian city

>crying over shut that happened hundred of year ago

You guys are a bunch of fuckin pussies.

>>2986429
June 10, 323 B.C.

"To the strongest"

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"I go from a corruptible, to an incorruptible Crown, where no disturbance can be, no disturbance in the world."

>>2986529
Came here to post this. The last months of Karl's Ukrainian campaign were absolutely brutal.
Charles the Bold of Burgundy also gets to me.

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>>2987360
>dixie
>krauts
>this coming from the Yankees who recruited German revolutionaries by the boatload because they were too lazy to fight themselves

Fuck off

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>>2987461

Just checked Mort Kunstler's website, it is actually.

Not that it makes much of a difference, Saylor's Creek really was the Last Stand of the Confederacy. All those men who had survived four long years only to die so lonely and cold on the banks of the river tears me up inside. The only other accounts of the Civil War that brought me so close to tears was the death of General A.P. Hill, Sandie Pendleton, Strong Vincent (he was a Yankee, but even he didn't deserve a demise so agonizing), and Francis Barlow's wife.

>>2988402
Constantinople isn't in Anatolia dipshit. It's in Thrace/mainland Europe

>>2986429
6 September 1566
Death of Suleiman Kanuni

>>2987733
Fetih 1453
Great historical documentary.

>>2988451

enough men in my family died in that war, so you can go fuck yourself

>>2988414
>ywn go back in time dressed in period garb with a rod of Asclepius and give him primaquine, then vanish

Feels bad man

>>2987440
The Muslims didn't do anything a Western army wouldn't have done, the sacking of a major population center after a long siege was going to have a LOT of rape and murder.

The only thing that made my reading of it so heartbreaking was knowing people nowadays present Muslims in general, or even the Turks, as these noble enlightened souls above the sins of us filthy Western Christians.

>>2987497
if Napoleon had won at Wellington, the Hundred Days would probably be the most based thing to ever happen. Too bad Grouchy fucked it up

The letters home from Verdun and the Third Battle of Ypres (Passchendaele). Living for months in a poison gas covered, constantly exploding and on fire, hellish landscape where you have to shit in the hole you live in surrounded by your dead friends because if you stick your head out of the shell hole or trench you currently call home, someone will blow your head off or you will get hit by shrapnel.

Also during Passchendaele, the mud was so deep that it would swallow men whole and drown them. Otherwise unwounded men would beg to be shot to escape that fate if they found themselves sinking.

>>2986795
Guess not

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The Armenian Genocide.

And it pisses me to the core when the cockroaches deny it.

all the people the Soviet Union's leaders betrayed, except for Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria, because those fucks all had it coming

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>>2986429

>>2988759
reminder that that pic is from a movie

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>>2988688

29 out of 31 in mine's didn't make come home because of you Lincoln loving cocksuckers. My extended family was pretty much fucking annihilated.

>>2988771

Stalin once introduced Beria to Church and FDR as "our Himmler."

Beria on a personal level made Himmler look like a decent human being by comparison.

>>2988803
Which movie?

>>2988812
yeah, Himmler at least had the decency to not be a mass murderer AND a serial rapist

and he didn't start crying and begging Hitler for mercy when he died either

>>2987733
1453: The Holy War for Constantinople and the Clash of Islam and the West by Roger Crowley is a pretty good, detailed account that's not too dense.

>>2988818

Well Hitler was already kinda dead by then so yeah. Also, he committed suicide while in British custody.

>>2988807
Boo fucking hoo soldiers die in war, blame your commanders not ours

>>2988838
the metaphor doesn't really line up, but you get what I mean

also for some reason I thought it was Himmler that killed himself in the Furherbunker and not Goebels

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He just needed to remember his goddamn breastplate.

The death of Aurelian was fucking atrocious

>>2986429
Hannibal's flight from carthage

>>2986429
when I understood the french revolution was a tragedy while my highschool years taught me it was a good thing

>>2986443
Can someone post the Library of Alexandria copypasta?

The Christmas ceasefire of WW1.

>>2987902
I can only take solace in that most of the crusaders thought it was bullshit that they didn't sign up for and left well before then. It still hurts, though.

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this song fills me with too many damn Russian feels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN2JUMrCFe0&t=6s

I cry when I think about WW1 and all the family lines cut short...a genetic bottleneck that seems so senseless. You can atleast view WW2 as some clash of idealogies but WW1 was such a fucking crime against Europe.

>>2988807
Good? Traitors get what they deserve

>>2988807
>wahh we just wanted to whip and rape niggers in peace
if your southern ancestors read their bibles with an open mind instead of with an eye to confirm what they wanted to believe for their own egos and personal gain, if they had behaved on the model of Jesus and worked to accept and succor their fellow humans instead of dehumanizing and enslaving them, 29 more branches of your family would be alive today
I mean yeah, I feel bad for your family, but I feel worse for the millions upon millions upon millions of the enslaved, and the still-existent and deep social problems it creates today

>>2989301
>implying dead white people is a bad thing

>>2986462
good post

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>>2986721
>Reading about the Islamic Conquests makes me sad, all those cultures, all those languages, all those people and ethnicities, gone forever, they're just another faceless entity under some oppressive, dogmatic cult.
how is that different from the christian conquest of the americas?

>>2989440
because muslims didn't actually genocide and eradicate the local population?

>>2986876
Cry everytime.
Poor native people were in a barren island living their lives, when ranchers decided they could put some sheep there... hunted them down like animals so sheep could have room to graze.

>>2988745
Oh Jesus, I remember some from a documentary. Every time a soldier wrote about just wanting to see his loved ones again and the narrator said "He died several days later.", i died a little inside. I barely held myself together.

>>2989440
>implying anon saying one historical tragedy brought him to tears means that others wouldn't

Laika
Was reading the comic book

The invention and widespread adoption of gunpowder in war.

>>2989468
no gunpowder >= no european dominance => no accumulation of wealth => no industrial revolution => no shitposting on /his/

>>2989286
Jesus fucking Christ, anon. To think that it all could have been prevented if Nicky got his shit together.

>>2989309
liberal christians are a cancer.

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>>2986429
>Marie antoinette's last word's were an apology to her executioner for having stepped on his foot

It's really just the small things that make historical character's more human than their summary recordings.

>>2986429
Unironically reading Ian Kershaw and all the nazis killing themselves as the red army marched into Berlin apart from hitler of course
But yeah really sad

>>2989309
>deep social
When was the last time an upstanding lack man was killed by the police for not resisting

>>2989488
No it's Willys fault, he's a dick in more than one way

>>2989440
Because we have far more in common with the assyrians and sumerians than some ziggurat builders

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Stalingrad

>>2989440
Native Americans had no culture

>>2986429
The Norman Invasion of 1066. Fucking French bastards.

>>2989618
They were Norman's you mong

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>>2986429
Not quite historical yet, but still, this is for me the biggest tragedy of recent times

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the partitioning of Lotharingia

>>2987497
This

Seriously one of the most based moments in history bar none

>>2986535

me too man, I laugh until I cry

>>2986603

>Turks toppling Greeks

who the fuck am I meant to even root for here?

Gettysburg is pretty heavy, especially Pickett's Charge

>>2986429
The death of Eazy-e

Well, not tears, but I was genuenly sad after reading about the Swan King.

He just wanted to build cool castles, lads.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II_of_Bavaria

>>2986529

RUSSIAN ARMIES BLOCKED THEIR WAY

20,000 LOST THAT DAY

THEY BLED THE GROUND

PEACE THEY FOUND

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The fall of the USSR. As a Russian who experienced it first hand, that shit was absolutely terrible
>Gorby does nothing to save the country
>Reatards like Yeltsin become popular with the people
>The August coup, which was the last attempt to save the Soviet Union, fails
>The country disintegrates
>26 years later I live in a 3rd world shithole that is a shadow of its former self
>mfw

>>2986499
Imagine dying so some inbred gets to wear a pretty hat,

>>2989833
It would've been far better off for everyone involved (except the Baltics, they always wanted out) if they'd just transitioned to a capitalist country. Shock therapy was a farce.

>>2986535
Meh, deserved.

>>2989841
Global rule number two is still in effect.

>>2987101
Retard.

>>2989833
fuck off dumb, slavshit

thank god, your prison of nations fell apart and thank god you now live in a shithole, its a shame you had to drag others down with you, you stalin loving fuck

>>2989841
Fuck you it's more than that it's geopolitics
>>2986499
>it's the English fault the French broke treaties
just as bad as kaiserboos

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>>2986673
>we
So, how did you type that out Mehmet? Did you jump from key to key like in a cartoon? Or was it a group effort?

The fact that communists not only got away scot-free from their atrocities, they're still teaching it at mass level as a good alternative to capitalism.

>>2986603
It's just the 'and they never came' part on the Wikipedia page of Venetian relief force that made me cry and then contemplate that idea of death

>>2986551
>having 200 years to get your shit together
>f-fucking crusaders!
You guy's are beta as fuck.
And who cares. In about three centuries the Muslim's would have ruled Constantinople as long as the Christians did anyway.

>>2987728
Well that's how conquests usually go. Most of Latin America was wiped out by diseases yet you don't see them lying about being conquered kek.

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>>2986429
I TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR

>>2989949
They spent most of those 200 years fighting to reconquer lost territory, you tard.
Turkposting was funny at first, but now it's just obnoxious.

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>>2986429
Even though I'm a commie, it was the execution of the Romanovs.

>>2989885
Lel

>>2989971
>even though I'm a commie
Consider suicide.

>>2989968
>They spent most of those 200 years fighting to reconquer lost territory, you tard.
>being stable enough to wage war with other nations isn't enough time
>not focusing on unJUSTing your shit is the fault of the crusaders
The Ottomans did did what any rational empire would have done when they saw an opening.

Christmas truce.... I actually cried while I was learning about it

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>>2990004
Forgot pic

>>2989971
>>2986429
Monarchs being executed is the one thing I don't respect being sad about more than any other death.

Also, the Romanovs and Louis XVI. had it coming.

>>2990010
>had it coming
>people arrest him when he was using their supppurt to pass reforms

>>2989309
>still existent
Yeah, blacks are held back by their past lmao.
You know, my family comes from Serbia. Serbia was under the Ottoman boot for far longer than Afro-Americans were slaves for, and only gained independence after the US slaves were set free.
I don't speak a word of Serbian. I've never set foot in Serbia. I laugh my arse off at the idea that event so long ago, so far away and so irrelevant to me would still effect my life to this day. Imagine if I was out begging for reperations and gibs like amegros do.
It's hilarious.

>>2989994
They weren't stable at all, though. The fourth was a mortal blow. After that there simply weren't enough people to hope to fight the Turks.
But they didn't just sitting there tiddling their thumbs like you seem to think.

>>2989308
Guess you'd better be rejoining mother England, then. Wouldn't want to be a "traitor" now would you?

>>2986429
The Shoah.

>>2990060
Actually, I'm surprised it took so long for someone to say this, even ironically.
I'm no conspiretard, I think it happened and it would've been horrible, but god damn is it overrated.

>>2990037
Your analogy doesn't at all work out, and someone posting on a /his/tory and humanities board not being able to conceive that an event a few hundred years back still affects you is bewildering.

>>2989977
There is literally not one thing wrong with worker ownership.

>>2990066
Third reply numbnuts.

>>2989994
>reconquering Constantinople isn't unJUSTing yourself
What did you expect them to do? Sit in Nicaea until the Turks came knocking?
Post 1204, they did everything right given their position (except maybe keeping the capital in Nicaea, so the emperor stayed near the action).

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>>2989308

Rejoin the British Empire then and pay them back for the tea you Fagachusetts cunt

>>2989309

t. Bernie voter from Vermont who's never spent a day in the open zoos known as Watts or Oakland

>>2990041
>They weren't stable at all, though. The fourth was a mortal blow
Entire nation's have come back in lesser time tho.
>But they didn't just sitting there tiddling their thumbs like you seem to think.
From what I can tell they were still strong enough to skirmish with other nations, just not the ottomans.

>>2990068
>Your analogy doesn't at all work out,
Why?
>and someone posting on a /his/tory and humanities board not being able to conceive that an event a few hundred years back still affects you is bewildering.
Me personally? No. That's laughable. WWII is the reason my family left Serbia, so I guess that's something. But whether it's Turks killing Serbs 200 years ago, or Germans killing Serbs 70 years ago, neither has any impact on my life whatsoever.
Should I go to Turkey and beg for reparations?
>I know I shot a guy over crack, but my great great great great grandfather was once beaten by a Turkish soldier so it's his fault not mine

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>>2986429
The Great Leap Forward. Especially the part where they murdered sparrows until cubic fucktons of their dead bodies crowded the streets and the sparrows actually sought refuge in the Polish embassy. The Chinese besieged the embassy for days, making lots of noise with drums, until the Poles had to use shovels to clear their embassy of dead sparrows. And then 45 million Chinese died of starvation because insects ate all the crops.

>>2990109
>Should I go to Turkey and beg for reparations?
You think this is a meme but Japan literally gives the descendants of Nanking reparations.

>>2986429
None at all you women

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>>2989308

And since the fuck do you Yankees care about treason? You fucking wipe you ass with the Constitution nearly every day. It might as well be non-existent.

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This guy.

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>>2988866
A shining example of an emperor. Would have survived if he was just a little bit more shiny.

>>2988402
>Constantinople
>Anatolian
>Turks
>Anatolian

>>2990133
He's some autist that goes off every thread he can

>>2990114
>Especially the part where they murdered sparrows until cubic fucktons of their dead bodies crowded the streets and the sparrows actually sought refuge in the Polish embassy. The Chinese besieged the embassy for days, making lots of noise with drums, until the Poles had to use shovels to clear their embassy of dead sparrows. And then 45 million Chinese died of starvation because insects ate all the crops.
>This is real

Humanity is afuckingmazing at being complete monsters to the point of self destruction

>>2990114
And then they imported sparrows from the Soviet Union.

>>2986429
D. Sebastião!!!!

>>2986489
Also this.
Not even greek

>>2989897
>USSR
>Communist

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>>2989833
but you lived in a 3rd world shithole under the USSR....

>>2990242
USSR was 2nd world

>>2990263
In name only

>>2990268
1st/2nd/3rd world mean what side you were on in the Cold War.

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>>2990263
i bet it brought them comfort

>>2990275
And now it means something different

>>2990117
Nanking is at least in living memory.
Reparations for slavery may as well be reparations to France from Italy for what the Romans did in Gaul.

>>2990299
Why are russians so subhuman?

>>2988807
>29 out of 31
They should have got the other 2 tb-h

>>2990339
hundreds of years of successive tsars and dictators.

>>2988409
Nigga it's a history board

>>2986429
Marie Antoinette

she was too pure for this world

Nanking

Seriously jesus christ you fucking assholes

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>>2986784
>>2986630
It means that History itself acknowledges that Rome is its protagonist.

>>2986764
An excellent way to know that the devil inspired the Quran, and not God. I mean, if it needed to be made more obvious.

The sinking of the Reuben James.

>Only 44 survivors
>other men died of exposure in the wild seas off of Iceland on a dark night as the sea screamed with waves and sailors, frothed with ice and oil and was pitch black around them save for the burning carcass of the ship

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>>2986429
Trial of General Radola Gajda

>>2990472
>pervacious young royal with no head for current circumstances becomes victim of revolutionary mob
>encourages her clueless husband to flee, thereby fucking up any chance the country had of reconciling with reduced power or the monarchs, which further enabled the terror
>her husband got caught anyway because she refused to leave without packing lavish trappings which slowed and ultimately contributed to her family's capture at Varennes

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Your opinion is wrong
So here, have a (you)

>>2986573
THIS

>>2986775
What would you accept as a primary source? Eyewitness testimony? Roman historians? Greek historians? Jewish historians?

Or do you just spout this bullshit as a way of hiding from the truth?

>>2987455
7 BABYLONIAN TALMUD, Tractate Sanhedrin 17a.

R[abbi] Kahana said: If the Sanhedrin [Jewish court] unanimously find [the accused] guilty, he is acquitted. Why? — Because we have learned by tradition that sentence must be postponed till the morrow in hope of finding new points in favor of the defense. But this cannot be anticipated in this case. Importantly, there is a dispute amongst Talmudic commentators concerning the application of this rule. Some feel that this anti-unanimity rule is limited to the highest appellate court, the Great Sanhedrin of 71 judges. See Meir Simcha of Dvinsk, Ohr Sameach, Laws of Sanhedrin 9:1 (Warsaw ed. 1926) (positing that Maimonides limits the anti-unanimity rule to the
Great Sanhedrin to highlight that the defendant is completely exonerated, as opposed to a lower Sanhedrin, where it would simply be appealed). But see David Ibn Zimra, RaDBaZ, Laws of Sanhedrin 9:1 (Wagshal ed. 1984) (applying this law even to trial courts of 23 judges); see Meir Dan Plotsky, Kli Chemdah, Devarim 4 (Pietrikow ed., 1927); see Avraham Duber Cahana Shapiro, Dvar Avraham, Book 2 Ch. 34:3-4 (Warsaw ed., 1906).

>>2990622
>Crying because of propaganda

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ROME DID NOT DESERVE THIS

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FUCK THE FILTHY BARBARIANS

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IT SHOULS HAVE NEVER SPLITTED

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PLEASE RETURN TO ME

>>2986429

No shit? The Christmas Truce of WWI and the subsequent actions of the French of executing soldiers who refused to fight in rich men's squabbles.

Decline of the roman empire

Destruction of the library at Alexandria

Invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan

>>2989732
This shit right here gets me so damn heated.

>>2988782
This, the kids didn't deserve it.

>>2987081
Haha, you're a retard
t. Oklahoman

>>2988807
>We were this close to not having to have to deal with more cancerous namefags

Genuinely wish they got the full set desu

>>2988807
>29 out of 31 in mine's didn't make come home
MOMOMOMONSTER KILL!!!!

>>2986721
>what are millets
>not realizing Muslims were very tolerant of other religions and cultures that they conquered as long as they paid their shit
>being an altright meme-christian who selectively remembers history

>>2989819
Shit, looking back, this guy created some of Bavaria's greatest sites and tourist attractions. What the fuck did other kings of his stature do worth a shit? Participate inconsequentially in a couple wars, change some law codes? He has much more of a legacy and lasting source of revenue for his country than most of the thousands of boring minor kings Europe has had.

>>2991187
Not that guy but, you're kidding yourself if the millets are in any way representative of the multicultural and multifaith middle east that existed prior to the ascendancy of Islam.

Remember the Tocharians, the people of the Tarim basin, the ancient Christian traditions of the Nile, the monastic cells of the eastern deserts, the Stylites and their autistic pillars, the fire towers of Atropatene and the bull worshipping agriculturalists of the Garamantes. All replaced by a shamelessly dull monoculture exported from Arabia.

the destruction of argentine economy during the 90s
but more /his/ related would be Berlin in 1989. not because of gomunism n shiet, but for the meeting of the german peolpe.

>>2986429
When Peter III Romanov ended the war with Fredrick The great. That shit broke my heart.

>>2986462
Bro, if He didn't die our sins would have to be absolved through deeds and sacrifice like common Jews. This way God makes the sacrifice instead of us so we don't have to burn goats and shit and thank Jesus every day for his forgiveness. Sure, it was brutal but it had to happen.

>>2990133
Shut up hick

Go play a banjo or cook meth or whatever it is you sisterfuckers do for fun


>we wuz rebs n shit

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>>2989916
>mfw reading about that lone Venetian ship with supplies that was being chased by the Ottoman navy
>when the Venetians managed to get in Constantinople, Constantine cried knowing that they risked their lives to aid a doomed city

This ballad was based on letters the author's great-great-granddad communicated with his family back home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4uRgpYXgKI

Also this fragment:
>One summer afternoon in the year 1054, as a service was about to begin in the Church of the Holy Wisdom (Hagia Sophia) at Constantinople, Cardinal Humbert and two other legates of the Pope entered the building and made their way up to the sanctuary. They had not come to pray. They placed a Bull of Excommunication upon the altar and marched out once more. As he passed through the western door, the Cardinal shook the dust from his feet with the words: ‘Let God look and judge.’ A deacon ran out after him in great distress and begged him to take back the Bull. Humbert refused; and it was dropped in the street....

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>>2986795
I feel bad for the Jews, but they still made it eventually. Gypsies are still stealing my silver cutlery.

>>2986429
The fall of Antiquity Stalingrad

>>2987081
Haha, you deserved it

t.Sherman

>>2988732
And thats why the West will fall as surely as Byzantium.

>>2992231
Aw say aw say delet this boi

>>2990004
>>2990007

And then they went back to killing each other the next day. Hilarious.

People are ants who will literally do what ever they're told.

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Belisarius the blind beggar. I really hope it's just a myth.

>>2986462
Honestly, I was reading Dream of the Rood, and some other old English stories about Jesus Christ and that did make me cry. The religion I take for granted back then was so much more real for those guys.

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Valentinian II's life in general. Used as nothing but a figurehead by scheming generals, his mother and Ambrose of Milan (one of the single most vile people to ever exist). By the time he was an adult he wanted actually rule like he was supposed to... but of course nobody would allow that. Instead a smelly barbarian gets handed the job of running the military and basically spends the next year or so bullying the emperor, countermanding him at every turn, basically telling him he's a useless piece of shit. Valentinian protests to Theodosius (another awful person) who ignores him. He decides he's had enough and dismisses Arbogast who almost literally (by virtue of distance) laughs in his face. Hitting his breaking point he goes to his bed chamber and hangs himself at the age of 21.

Sad life of a kid who never really got a chance to be anything.

Is it the first (or one of the first) documented instances of suicidal depression? I know, of course, suicide long existed but seemed to be more of a political thing: fall on your sword to preserve your honor, kill yourself to keep the ruler's hands clean at his behest, kill yourself when you're cornered and the other option is being murdered. I can't think of anyone prior to Valentinian killing themselves because they were clearly depressed and reached the end of their rope.

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/k/ here.

The Treaty of Versailles. All those poor Broomhandle Mausers and Lugers

>>2992496
Samefagging but as a nice example of Arbogast's cruel treatment of the emperor that led to his suicidal depression, anyone who Arbogast saw as a threat to his position or could curry favor with the emperor was usually dispatched violently. The most notable incident of this was when Arbogast himself personally murdered Harmonius, a good friend of Valentinian's, right in front of the emperor with the excuse that he was taking bribes but in reality to show Valentinian who really ran things in the West. Little wonder, then, why he (likely) killed himself?

>>2986429
The last years of Scipio Africanus and Hannibal Barca.

>>2992507
>Clemenceau's initial response to the peace agreement was "It will all be useless"
What a bleak time.

>>2990304
What's a second world country according to you?

>>2992426
The Belisarius? Holy fuck, he was treated badly enough anyway, if this was confirmed true it'd really piss me off.

>>2990685
Kek.

>>2987229
Losing North Africa was probably a mortal blow, anyway, analogous to the Fourth Crusade.
It was probably inevitable after that, even if they managed to recapture it.

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>>2991893
>no argument
Gun grabbing anti-free speech Yankee whining about treason.
The ironing.

>>2992426
I see no reason to believe that shit.

>>2986489
>that one fucking retard who left the gate open
Hopes he's burning in hell, although
>not realising Byzantiums fate was sealed at Manzikert

>>2986573
This. And all the horror of the soviet purges.

>>2990004
This is the only thing that has ever made me cry in history. It's an extremely powerful moment and tells you people aren't as bad as we often think we are. There's hope, anon.

Willaim winning at Hastings and all that followed. Few people realize how fucking awful the Normans were. Literally everything the modern altcucks tell you muslims are.

>>2990010
The children did not have it coming.

>>2988807
good

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>>2986443

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Waterloo

"La garde meurt et ne se rend pas"

>>2992585
Poland, Portugal, etc

Murder of Tiberius Gracchus

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Charge of the light brigade. I know you
said war, but

>>2991223
>implying the Tocharians were displaced by muslims
>implying North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia are a monoculture today
>implying the Middle East is not multicultural and multifaith today

yes, the islamic conquests were an epochal event and they lead to the sidelining of middle eastern christianity and the end of some cultural traditions but that's just history, it's not unique to islam at all. With the achaemenid empire ancient mesopotamian culture began its decline, with british colonialism in india the mughal empire as the last representative of the persianate cultural sphere was destroyed, with the chinese revolution a thousand-year old line of chinese emperors was broken, with the meiji restoration the tradition of japanese warrior nobility and the shogunate disappeared never to return, the russian revolution completely uprooted old russia to the point that it will never be what it once was....

beautiful things are lost to time, it's just a fact of life. other things, some great some not so great, will always form in their place.

>>2992110
maybe they should've not sacked the city that one time, that would've been more effective than coming with a single ship at the last minute before the fall of the empire.

>>2992807
Why didn't you just save the picture, macfag?

>>2992496
I did feel bad for the guy. Fuck Ambrose of Milan and fuck the Catholics that deified him. He was a conniving little rat shit that helped accelerate the fall of the WRE.

>>2986429
Mexico's history as a whole is pretty disgusting. How the mexican king ended up was even more bullshit than the french king, since he literally dindunuffin.

>>2992496
Fuck. I was trying to remember who this was from HoR, for some reason I kept thinking Honorius.

Thinking of all the rape that happens in wars really makes my stomach turn. I'm no prissy or anything but the idea of underage girls being forced to give their bodies to foreign soldiers makes me sad. They should get to be happy.

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Makes me cry when I read indepth about the slaughter of Tsar Nicholas' kids.
> She ran to the man and explained that she had been a nurse during the war and wanted to look at his foot. He refused her offer of treatment. All through the afternoon, Olga fretted over the guard, whom she called "her poor fellow."

>>2993389
>The Tsar's children were raised as simply as possible. They slept on hard camp cots without pillows, except when they were ill, took cold baths in the morning, and were expected to tidy their rooms and do needlework to be sold at various charity events when they were not otherwise occupied. Most in the household, including the servants, generally called the Grand Duchess by her first name andpatronym, Anastasia Nikolaevna, and did not use her title or style

>>2993392
Sometimes I wonder if Rasputin molested them or not. God I hope not.

> "He's always there, goes into the nursery, visits Olga and Tatiana while they are getting ready for bed, sits there talking to them andcaressingthem. They are careful to hide him from Sofia Ivanovna, and the children don't dare talk to her about him. It's all quite unbelievable and beyond understanding."

> During World War I, Anastasia, along with her sister Maria, visited wounded soldiers at aprivate hospitalin the grounds atTsarskoye Selo. The two teenagers, too young to becomeRed Crossnurses like their mother and elder sisters, played games ofcheckersandbilliardswith the soldiers and tried to lift their spirits. Felix Dassel, who was treated at the hospital and knew Anastasia, recalled that the grand duchess had a "laugh like a squirrel", and walked rapidly "as though shetrippedalong."

>>2992873
I mean on one hand I can admire Ambrose for having a lot of balls... it's just that they were for all the wrong things. The guy was as power hungry a person as there has ever been but hid it all behind a veneer of religious piety. It says a lot that his first thought when hearing about the Massacre of Thessalonica was "oh man, I can really use this to make the emperor bow to my demands". Not to mention the zealotous suppression of Paganism including doing what he could to destroy any symbols of old Rome (chief among them being the removal, through Gratian, of the Altar of Victory).

Of course if he didn't have such a weak-willed doofus like Theodosious his ass would've been removed and exiled a long time ago but sadly he did. I don't exaggerate at all when I say that Theodosius I is the single most overrated person to ever rule the Roman Empire, the single most undeserving person in history to be called "the Great" and one of the worst emperors in Roman history. Every action he took, from letting a fucking bishop push him around to his allowing the Goths to settle as a united, and armed, entity to leaving the West in the hands of his awful son, had nothing but a net negative effect on the Empire. Let's look at the vaunted Theodosian Dynasty.

>Theodosius
Alright military commander but awful political leader who allowed himself to be bullied by a bishop.

>Honorius
What needs to be said?

>Arcadius
Sackless cuck who let his wife and main eunuch do whatever the hell they wanted in his name becuase he only cared about looking like a good Christian.

>Theodosius II
Half-alright by virtue of Anthemius for the first part of his reign. Pretty much descended into retarded religious arguing thanks to being controlled by his zealotous sister, started a pointless war against Persia, got BTFO by the Vandals, got made into the Huns' bitch. Fell off his horse.

>Valentinian III
Cruel, vindictive rapist who killed Aetius.

Thermopylae
The betrayal of the Greeks by Ephialtes, the prophesied stand and death of king Leonidas and his Spartans and the election of the Thespians to stay and die with them, it's beautiful. Shame it was turned into such a meme recently

>>2992292
>when the voice in your head feels too real

Fuck it's been too long since I was back home in Tennessee. Maryland is overrun with insects and Virginia is boring.

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>>2988506
>we will never get a movie about these men's heroism, bravery, and brotherhood at the end of days

Fuck left wing hollywood man. I'm not even a lost causer.

So why couldn't Hannibal make a real breakthrough to Roma in 16 years of campaigning again?

>>2989309
>muh sllaaaavery

Listen here you limp dick left wing yankee. You have no idea, not even the concept, of your precious upper middle class life style provided by your mommy's alimony check being threatened. So don't even start judging the men who took up arms against an invincible force as they stormed across the dixie lines. Sure, the plantation owners might have started the war over their greed for money, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Like soviets fighting the germans, or the chinese fighting the japs, at the end of the day those men went to war to stop their homes from being burned and their wives from being raped, and that means something.

t. lost 7/8 male members of that generation on both sides

>>2989794
>general lee suh, I have no division

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The decimation of the Guanche people at the hands of the Spaniards was pretty bad, there was so much we could've learned about the early Berber peoples from them. I just recently found out about them and they've captivated me.

>>2993514

Rekt and I hope you pursue your ridiculous sense of honour to your grave, cuck

>>2989319
Swarthy pavement ape detected

>>2993485
No more elephants

>>2986429
The destruction of Assyria, both in the 7th century B.C. and now.

>>2989440
it's not, and actually that was way way worse
the point is it's not a fucking body count dick measuring contest between sides, everything is just a matter of picking through garbage and combining good bits

>>2989819
>The King was seized just after midnight and at 4 am was taken to a waiting carriage. He asked Dr. Gudden, "How can you declare me insane? After all, you have never seen or examined me before," only to be told that "it was unnecessary;

Poor castleman

Destruction of Italian Lombard Kingdom by filthy Germs ( their last king was Desiderius not some Hrumbrum)

Suicide of Socrates.

>>2986535
Fuck commies. Nun-killing niggers.

>>2993587
He was really sick, wanted to nurture arts and sciences unlike other perfectly sane kings who did what they had to, ie killed millions

>>2992496
I never had any respect for this eejit, but when you put like that I suppose one has to have a bit of sympathy.

>>2986429
death of Lenin

>>2986429
The sinking of the Yamato

>>2992533
any more examples

>>2986429
The battle of verdun. Thousands of men died just for a few inches of land that were lost just a week later.
It still angers me that something so pointless as war can cost so many lives of not only soldiers, but also peoples lives.

>>2992784
By what criteria?

>>2986429
>What historical tragedy brought you to the brink of tears the first time you read about it?

publius ovidius naso's banishment from rome by augustus

>>2993485
He lacked the manpower to hold captured towns and didn't have siege equipment sufficient to take Rome itself.

>>2992543
Yesh the treatment of Scipio and the everlasting flight of Hannibal is pretty depressing.

Not really a tragedy, but Pythia's last days are pretty sad.

>Hagiography has it that in 362, on behalf of his emperor Julian the Apostate, Oribasius visited the Delphic oracle, now in a rather desolate state, offering his emperor's services to the temple and, in return, receiving one of the last prophecies by the Delphic Pythia
>Tell the emperor that my hall has fallen to the ground. Phoibos no longer has his house, nor his mantic bay, nor his prophetic spring; the water has dried up.
>Fontenrose doubts the authenticity of this oracle, characterizing it a "Christian oracle, devised to show that the Delphic Apollo foresaw the mission of Christ and the end of Oracles."

>The last recorded oracle was in 393 AD when by order of Emperor Theodosius I the temple was closed and never reopened. The Oracle declared all is ended. Within 5 years the Emperor was dead and 15 years later Alaric the Visigoths captured Rome.

>>2993446
What's so wrong with getting advice from the pope of the day

>>2989621
>Normans aren't French
t. Lindybeige

>>2992680
An enlightened society?

>>2993929
You don't even have a United French identity at this point

>>2986460
which one?

>>2993965
The death of some 6 million Jews engineered by the Nazi state and followed through by its collaborators

>>2992426
It is confirmed in some chronnicle and biography fragments that did survive the fall of Byzantium.
"He who once stroke fear in the heart of mighty warlords and would be emperors was conquered by fleas and ticks which did took his sight from him."

>>2988807
Hey that's war :^)

>>2992606
>Try to negotiate with Lincoln over secession
>Lincoln flatly refuses to have any agreement at first with an illegal move
>Instead of continuing to use diplomats to secure some sort of treaty, break into autistic rage
>Bomb Fort Sumter

>>2988807
Haha get fucked Dixie faggot. Every fucking southerner should just fucking die. wish your whole line was wiped so I didn't have to read your southern romantacist slop. Slave driving fuck

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>>2986429
The execution of Maximilian I of Mexico. He was just a nice guy who loved the MExican people, he even wore a sombrero to his execution.

>The sentence was carried out in the Cerro de las Campanas on the morning of 19 June 1867, when Maximilian, along with Generals Miramón and Mejía, were executed by a firing squad. He spoke only in Spanish and gave his executioners a portion of gold not to shoot him in the head so that his mother could see his face. His last words were, "I forgive everyone, and I ask everyone to forgive me. May my blood, which is about to be shed, be for the good of the country. Viva Mexico, viva la independencia!"[40] Generals Miramón and Mejía were shot after him. Both died shouting, "Long live the Emperor."

>>2994606
Was it worth it?

>>2986429
The whole Great War. the Christmas truce specially. They were just men who had nothing against each other. Men of the 19th century in a war of the 20th century

>>2987444
underrated

>>2987229
The vandals were awesome though.

>>2991893
That's not how the "we wuz" meme works retard

We literally wuz rebs

the death of the columbine shooters

>>2989971
Kill yourself and the rest of those in your failed ideology

>>2995079
There is literally nothing wrong with worker ownership.

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>>2988839
>>2989308
>>2989309
>>2991160
>>2991180
>>2992724
>>2994163
>>2994228

Every last Nigger lover and Northerner will hang on the Day of the Rope and I will personally make ALL of your putrid bloodlines are extinguished.

Death to the Union and Death to ALL Unionists

>>2995950
Woah there friend you gotta be 18 to post

Sorry bud ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>2996041

I'm 24 you dumb nigger

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>>2995950
Could Southerners be anymore tinpot if they tried? You are so small time it's actually funny. Ya lost get over it kiddo

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>>2996088

It ain't over til' it's over and it won't be over so long as a single Northerner desecrates Southern soil with their filthy footsteps.

Don't worry though, you'll be finding out what a Magnolia tree feels like real soon.

>>2996228
Yeah ok, sure thing buddy