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Linguistics: "Standard Average European" and Celtic Languages 2017-06-21 06:57:07 Post No. 2981914
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Linguistics: "Standard Average European" and Celtic Languages
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2017-06-21 06:57:07
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Average_European
"Not all the languages listed above show all the listed features, so membership in SAE can be described as gradient. Based on nine of the above-mentioned common features, Haspelmath regards French and German as forming the nucleus of the Sprachbund, surrounded by a core formed by English, the other Romance languages, the Nordic languages, and the Western and Southern Slavic languages. Hungarian, the Baltic languages, the Eastern Slavic languages, and the Finnic languages form more peripheral groups.[6] All languages identified by Haspelmath as core SAE are Indo-European languages. However, not all Indo-European languages are SAE languages: the Celtic, Armenian, and Indo-Iranian languages remain outside the SAE Sprachbund.[7]"
Why would Celtic languages not adopt the SAE features? Anyone knowledgeable on this? Pic sort of related.
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Did you not read the article you posted?
>The Standard Average EuropeanSprachbundis most likely the result of ongoinglanguage contact in the time of theMigration Period and later, continuing during theMiddle Agesand theRenaissance. Inheritance of the SAE features fromProto-Indo-Europeancan be ruled out because Proto-Indo-European, as currently reconstructed, lacked most of the SAE features.
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>>2981938
Right, but Celtic languages would have come into contact with lots of Germanic/Romance speakers during the Migration Period, Middle Ages, and Renaissance.
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>>2981946
Not in a huge scale. Their languages stayed largely localized. Nobody outside of their small area would speak their language especially into the middle ages and Renaissance, and as you can see from the migration period of Anglo-Saxons, Celtic languages didn't survive to well of the British isles save for isolated areas.
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>>2981964
So if Wales and Ireland had stayed independent, do you think Welsh and Irish would have adopted some of those features?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi_time_controversy
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>>2981981
I doubt it, i think their isolated rural nature at the time preserved them and still provides that. Like how Lithuania is rather conservative as an Indo-European language.
Keep in mind both stayed independent until around the 12th-13th century. Maybe if they'd been taken earlier their languages would have been more affected/extinct
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>>2982034
But even the Baltic languages have a considerably higher SAE score than the Celtic languages.
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>>2982070
Ya, because this isolation ended at the migration peroid
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